Poll: Majority support removing of interrogation work from police

[rooster59]

Poll: Majority support removing of interrogation work from police

 

A majority of people agree with an idea to remove the interrogation work from police to ensure independent and fair criminal procedures, according to the result of an opinion survey by the National Insitute of Development Administration, or Nida Poll.

 

The poll was carried out on July 24-29 on 2,003 people aged 18 and over of various levels of education and occupations throughout the country to compile their opinions on how to reform the police force to satisfy the people.

 

Asked to comment on an idea for the interrogation work to be taken away from police to ensure independent and fair procedures of criminal cases, a majority of the respondents, 69.75%, agreed, reasoning that this would help prevent the police from misusing their power and enable the justice process to be more transparent; 24.31% disagreed, saying that the police are already well-versed in this field of work; 0.55% said any agency can handle the interrogation work as long as fairness is assured; and, 5.39% were uncertain or had no comment.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/poll-majority-support-removing-interrogation-work-police/

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2017-08-05

[trogers]

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

[Becker]

9 minutes ago, trogers said:

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

Glorified?

[YetAnother]

29 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Asked to comment on an idea for the interrogation work to be taken away from police to ensure independent and fair procedures of criminal cases, a majority of the respondents, 69.75%, agreed, reasoning that this would help prevent the police from misusing their power and enable the justice process to be more transparent;

rocket science for sure; does tend to confirm the general image of the police here (to which i concur);

polls , tho, always need to be cited with margin of/for error; the idea that some is xx.XX percent correct is non-sense;

if the pollsters are professional and know what they are doing (sample sizes), then might land in the 3% range

[Cadbury]

30 minutes ago, trogers said:

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

Not really. They predominately become monthly "insurance" fee collectors and monitors of the regional hierarchical distribution lists. Plus other assorted collection agent duties between the hours of 10am - 4pm.

[smedly]

interrogation work ?  oh yes right to legal council lol

 

 

you gotta love it

 

two of the most important things in the  Thailand Justice system is to bring forensic science under the Ministry of Justice, all serious crime scenes requiring specialist forensic attendance should be independent of the police

 

- The police should also be administered through an independent public body

 

There needs to be a whole conceptual change in Thailand regarding police and justice, the police cannot decide who to prosecute - that puts them above the courts............oh I know I am wasting my time because like everything else in Thailand they just don't get the concept and likely never will. The only area that they get the concept is when it involves forced foreign standards like aviation

 

stuff they don't get top 3

 

Justice policing and law enforcement

Human rights and equality

Standards of any kind (excluding aviation)

 

If Thailand really wants to reform - those are a really good start

[gk10002000]

It would be better to put the police under Civilian control and oversight instead of being puppets under the military

[HiSoLowSoNoSo]

6 hours ago, trogers said:

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

I wouldn't feel very safe if they where the security guards for my property. 

[smedly]

It really is all in the training and from that the perception of what each police officer thinks they are supposed to be doing and why

 

Seriously, ask a Thai policeman what they think their job should be..........................after the totally blank face and maybe the utterance of - helmet - take money or whatever

 

Tell them they are "public servants" .................................ha ha you make joke

 

not joking 

[halloween]

6 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

It would be better to put the police under Civilian control and oversight instead of being puppets under the military

You could have given us an example. Tarit perhaps?

[yellowboat]

It is one of many no confidence votes.  For reform of the BiB can take place, they probably need to be stripped way down. 

[DoctorG]

1 hour ago, yellowboat said:

It is one of many no confidence votes.  For reform of the BiB can take place, they probably need to be stripped way down. 

Are you advocating a naked police force?

[wanderluster]

like the next set of interrogators will be any better then the bib.  $$$$$

[jobsworth]

anybody know what do those pink patches some of them have on the upper arm mean?

 

[WhizBang]

15 hours ago, jobsworth said:

anybody know what do those pink patches some of them have on the upper arm mean?

 

 

Thais love their pomp and circumstance, so those patches no doubt display some superiority over those without the patches.

[halloween]

50 minutes ago, jobsworth said:

anybody know what do those pink patches some of them have on the upper arm mean?

 

191 Special Branch   http://www.nationreligionking.com/police/specialbranch/

[trainman34014]

15 hours ago, trogers said:

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

 

Nope; they would revert to being an elite Paratroop Unit.  That's why they all wear 'Wings', so they can be 'chuted into area's otherwise inaccessible for the collection of monthly 'subscriptions' !

[jobsworth]

57 minutes ago, WhizBang said:

 

Thais love their pomp and circumstance, so those patches no doubt display some superiority over those without the patches.

wasn't there a thread about how those in disgrace were made to wear pink shoulder patches?

only those pink patches looked different.

 

[sn1per]

Who needs interrogation?.... as the pm said last week, “if there was no guilt, the case would not have been brought to the court in the first place”.

[Lucky mike]

No accountability ! Who will police the police ?

[Grusa]

11 hours ago, smedly said:

they just don't get the concept and likely never will. The only area that they get the concept is when it involves forced foreign standards like aviation

Where do you get that idea? The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand is the least efficient and most dysfunctional of all government departments. It manages to ensure that most pilots and most aeroplanes spend most of their time unable to leave the ground, or go anywhere when they do.

It is vastly worse now than it ever was before ICAO started in on them. Imposing Thai thinking on top of international rules = administrative constipation. 

If they tried employing people who actually know something about their subject, instead of recycling ill educated civil servants with paper degrees, they might get somewhere. An ability to read and comprehend English language documentation might also be helpful!

[Classic Ray]

The U.K. successfully removed decisions re prosecution, and before that actually conducting prosecutions, from the police and gave those instead to lawyers in the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS)..

 

The police now have the sole criminal task of investigating allegations of crime and gathering evidence for and against suspects, including by interviewing witnesses and suspects.

 

They are often annoyed when the evidence is insufficient to allow a reasonable chance of conviction and prosecution is discontinued, but that decision is made by the CPS independently. 

 

A good system that that could be adopted here.

[Get Real]

Yep, why not make them desk clerks! Since when does the police not do interrogations? 

[chainarong]

The question still remains , who will do the interrorgation , the sad fact is , the police are not qualified to be police,  so who's to say the interrorgaters are qualified , I'd love to sit in on a special interrigators course, now that would be interesting, of course the course will be fast tracked, like everything else .............................

[retarius]

This seems such an obvious solution to part of the policing problem in Thailand. I can't understand why I didn't think of it.

 

Police is a failed institution here in LOS and needs a radical shake up. This may just be the move to do it. The police can then go back to taking money from motorcyclists not wearing helmets....

[jerojero]

Why why! Police somehow extract so many confessions from criminals and innocents.

[JAG]

Why why! Police somehow extract so many confessions from criminals and innocents.

They write then themselves?

Then a photo shoot, pointing fingers and a table with assorted items displayed.

Job done - all the evidence you're ever going to need...

[SABloke]

On 8/5/2017 at 8:43 PM, trogers said:

So, the police would just be glorified security guards...?

My security guards are more active than most police I see. They're also good security guards: In addition to opening and closing the gate, they manage to stay awake through the night 

[SABloke]

10 hours ago, Classic Ray said:

The U.K. successfully removed decisions re prosecution, and before that actually conducting prosecutions, from the police and gave those instead to lawyers in the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS)..

 

The police now have the sole criminal task of investigating allegations of crime and gathering evidence for and against suspects, including by interviewing witnesses and suspects.

 

They are often annoyed when the evidence is insufficient to allow a reasonable chance of conviction and prosecution is discontinued, but that decision is made by the CPS independently. 

 

A good system that that could be adopted here.

The problem is with investigation "techniques" these clowns use and the real risk of fabricated evidence. Remember how everyone said the guy in DSI custody killed himself - they investigated something

[AhFarangJa]

19 hours ago, jobsworth said:

anybody know what do those pink patches some of them have on the upper arm mean?

 

Don't know about the last one as I cannot read Thai properly yet, but as it shows a set of scales I would hazard a guess at it being fairness, integrity, and equal justice for all........

Edited August 7, 2017 by AhFarangJa