MrPatrickThai Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 12 hours ago, Denim said: In the unlikely event of there ever being a revolution in Thailand where the people spontaneously rise up ( a la Tunisia ) and violently overthrow the established order, with corrupt officials , politicians and soldiers dangling from lamposts like grotesque baubles, who could not find some sympathy for the revolutionaries having suffered so much for so long. Try reading Thai history books. Try getting out and listening to the people, especially in Isarn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekMarshall Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 14 hours ago, colinneil said: So what Amnat is actually saying, we are not going to do anything, as we cannot do anything, due to the fact we have been bought off. 1 Or, be more factual and less accusing of taking bribes. Mr Amnat is saying that they are not going to do anything simply because they cannot do anything because they have been handed a document that cannot be processed properly and legally they cant do anything with it! Which is pretty convenient for he who does nt want to be found and those that dont wish to look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, DerekMarshall said: Or, be more factual and less accusing of taking bribes. Mr Amnat is saying that they are not going to do anything simply because they cannot do anything because they have been handed a document that cannot be processed properly and legally they cant do anything with it! Which is pretty convenient for he who does nt want to be found and those that dont wish to look! What he's intimating is when the police name the country of residence, he'll have enough time to warn the family to tell their scum to go somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerekMarshall Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 18 minutes ago, fxe1200 said: You can check here if and when Thailand will take action: https://www.interpol.int/notice/search/wanted Out of curiosity I did enter his name..Zero results for wanted by Thailand and any other country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasalBanality Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 19 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said: No it isn't. It is rather apparent which family is more relevant in this debacle to the police. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 minute ago, BasalBanality said: It is rather apparent which family is more relevant in this debacle to the police. I don't think you understand the Thai language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasalBanality Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said: I don't think you understand the Thai language. Do humor me with your enlightened understanding of the Thai language? Edited August 11, 2017 by BasalBanality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim1954 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 15 hours ago, JohnLick said: So much rush and hard work... now the police has to face another obstacle, poor fellows It is not so difficult to find out where his private jet is landed or ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Why to hurry now? Take a few years more and nobody will remember the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wim1954 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 33 minutes ago, Bangkok Barry said: Assuming he still has a passport - I've lost track whether it was rescinded as it should have been, or not - then wouldn't the database show where he last entered a country? Thai authorities enter his passport number and it spews out his record of travel. Or is that not possible? Seems to me it should be in this electronic age. Of course, wanting to know his exact whereabouts negates all that, as it changes by the hour, even minute. Not easy with 3 passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexomike Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 15 hours ago, NCC1701A said: "The BS piles up so fast in Thailand you need wings to stay above it." Or some real high boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, Wim1954 said: Not easy with 3 passports. Well, if he's true to type and watching Grand Prix he'll be in Singapore 15-17 September, and Malaysia 29 Sept -1 October. I take it, both accessible countries to apprehend him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwct Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) Lets see how the RTP works. If the brown envelopes are delivered on a timely weekly basis, the RTP takes very baby steps. For instance it took 6 months to get a translation done. Now, I can get a translation done for 350 THB per page in 4 hours. I think with training the RTP can do that too, but they really don't want those brown envelopes to slow down or stop altogether. So, while they take months for translations, they should be tracking this murderers travels. The word here is "should"! No they will wait until they ordered to by the higher ups beyond the brown envelopes. This is standard operating procedures (SOP) for the RTP. They are waiting for one of the charges to expire, so they will get more envelopes. The brown envelopes are the key ingredients for baby steps by the RTP. Lets see what happens in the next 30 days. Baby steps and more brown envelopes or tracking this guy down. I think baby steps will win. What do you think? Edited August 11, 2017 by tomwct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 2 hours ago, aussie11950 said: Bloody hell. Such incompetence from the Royal Thai Police. For me , it's not so much their incompetence but their incredible consistency of incompetence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akampa Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 How is a Red Notice issued? 1.Police in one of our member countries request a Red Notice via their National Central Bureau and provide information on the case. 2.The INTERPOL General Secretariat publishes the Notice after a compliance check is completed. 3.Police all around the world are alerted. simply really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 (edited) 51 minutes ago, MrPatrickThai said: Try reading Thai history books. Try getting out and listening to the people, especially in Isarn. Advice you would be well advised to follow yourself considering your head in the sand viewpoint. I have probably read more Thai history books than you have heard of. Certainly know more of Thai history than the average Thai ( a very low benchmark ). I have lived all over Thailand during my 35 year stay here and was fluent in Thai , written and spoken , 30 years ago. Living in Issan for a long time means I can also speak a fair bit of the local dialect and have conversed with them about everything under the sun. If you go to Phatalung in the south there is a memorial there to the hundreds of Thai that were burnt alive in red oil drums by the military on trumped up charges of communism although many others suffered this treatment for no reason at all. Other suspects were thrown alive from helicopters into the jungle. There are even monuments to the excesses of the military right here in Bangkok if you would only get out more and open your eyes. The Boss case is just the typical scenario seen so often in Thailand where rich people use their cash and influence to evade justice. That you should make any comment trying to justify or mitigate it beggars belief. Edited August 11, 2017 by Denim spell check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 So they have not been looking for him? OMG why not? 5555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wavemanwww Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm speechless and not forgetting he killed a copper. In any OTHER country in the world the police would bend over backwards to have this slug arrested. OHH not in Thailand, Money talks and shit walks. Shame on the entire system and the pathetic excuses used to delay and not act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 One wonders how he is allowed to travel considering his passport has been revoked. I assume he has a second country passport. If his Thai passport is flagged he can be stopped at any immigration entry or exit point in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phkauf Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 For all those questioning why the RTP doesn't take the murder of their fellow officer seriously, the answer is quite simple: They don't give a Sh!t about each other, it's all about how much each can grab for themselves. It's unbelievable how when they want to solve a crime, usually high profile, it will be done astonishingly fast, yet day-to-day laziness and incompetence rule. There is no sense of duty to the job, like you see in police forces around the world. Here it's all about how much can I grab and position myself for more. The whole RTP senior core needs to be ripped out and trashed - no inactive posts, no transfers to a new desk - just sacked with no chance to return. Bring in outside (that is non-Thai) consultants to retrain the lower level police in a proper way and then rebuild from within. This would also entail raising salaries so the officers wouldn't need to resort to corruption just to make a decent living. Any future corruption would be severely punished with a prison term, the one thing police fear the most is going to prison with the people they put there. I know this is fantasyland, but that's the solution. And for the Red Bull D'bag, he's not going to face justice until the whole of the Senior RTP is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRUSA Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I'm only 3 months into my first trip here, so I'm not up to speed on a lot of things. On this subject is there a bounty on his head? Just asking in case I feel like tracking his sorry young ass and dragging him back to Thailand, literally.. dragging.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 1 hour ago, BasalBanality said: Do humor me with your enlightened understanding of the Thai language? Humour you, in what way? I work as a translator, what exactly do you want to know? The meaning of Greng Jai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novo58 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I think he needs a mud map of the current residence of " boss" ....just like we have to submit when we apply for an extension of permission to stay . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BasalBanality Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Just now, MrPatrickThai said: Humour you, in what way? I work as a translator, what exactly do you want to know? The meaning of Greng Jai? For starters, you implied I do not understand the Thai language, let's start by addressing that? In your professional judgement, what did I misunderstood of the Thai language? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 4 hours ago, MrPatrickThai said: He could be any of our children or us, drink and drugs can affect anyone from any background. This is Thailand, and most of us know the way things work. Would anyone here actually NOT pay of the police to help their kid? Sick of hearing the same old replies. Accept that this is what happens in corrupt countries. I'm sure the family of the victim are happy their beloved was killed by a billionaire and not some nobody, who would have to pay 50,000 baht compensation. One may accept the situation , but still feel sick at the injustice of it. We have no power other than display our disgust on forums such as this. You may think it pointless and perhaps it is but that disgust is indicitive of all that is rotten in Thailand and why it must eventually change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 3 minutes ago, BasalBanality said: For starters, you implied I do not understand the Thai language, let's start by addressing that? In your professional judgement, what did I misunderstood of the Thai language? Here we go, and the p***ng match begins by people professing to have a knowledge of the Thai language and have a good position, yet acting like children in the "acting like children" syndrome as many do on this forum. Grow up and address the posters original topic rather than trying to score childish points off one another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony M Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 It may have been asked before, but why don't they just offer a reward for information leading to his whereabouts and arrest. An offer of 5 Million THB might lead to an early arrest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippendale Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Who is still fooled by all this tedious posturing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue bruce Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I find it amazing the police can get an arrest warrant for a syrian and a Australian n 1 day for human trafficking of Moroccan women, but take 5 years to get an arrest warrant for the " THE BOSS'. Why did the authorities not revoke his passport 5 years ago as being a flt. risk. Cannot the police ask interpol to help find the location ????? Follow the money trail and you will find "THE BOSS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEFLKrabi Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Surely they use the address on his ID card and put current whereabouts as 'unknown'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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