Arrest warrant issued for former Thai PM Yingluck Shinawatra over court no show, trial delayed to 27 September

[Ricardo]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

From the article...

 

“What?” said a 75-year-0ld woman when told the court considered Yingluck to be a fugitive. “She won’t flee because she fights hard. She’s a working woman and a strong woman.”

 

The paragraph that followed it was equally interesting, but for a very different reason. 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/arrest-warrant-issued-for-former-thai-pm-yingluck-after-no-show-in-court

 

...  if anyone wishes to see the article  ...

[sammieuk1]

On your marks get set gone.

[Baerboxer]

46 minutes ago, midas said:

" She did not dare to face the politically tainted courts knowing the military considered she was indeed guilty "- is the correct version 

 

Would you care to explain on what grounds you believe she was innocent of the actual charges?

 

If she's done a runner it's because she thought the chance of being jailed higher than most others thought. Or she just couldn't stand the thought of all that loss of face!

 

She never attempted to defend the actual charge. And knows that like in her brother's case, bribery and intimidation of judges aren't going to work. So it's do a runner and keep diverting from facing up to the actual charges.

[Baerboxer]

10 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/25/arrest-warrant-issued-for-former-thai-pm-yingluck-after-no-show-in-court

 

...  if anyone wishes to see the article  ...

 

Thank you for posting the link.

 

Interesting that The Guardian think the 2013-4 street protests were about the rice scheme failures. They must have missed the Amnesty Bill fiasco! Or there again, doesn't fit their agenda to report reality.

 

As a newspaper, great for wrapping fish and chips!

[Ricardo]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Thank you for posting the link.

 

Interesting that The Guardian think the 2013-4 street protests were about the rice scheme failures. They must have missed the Amnesty Bill fiasco! Or there again, doesn't fit their agenda to report reality.

 

As a newspaper, great for wrapping fish and chips!

 

"As a newspaper, great for wrapping fish and chips!"

 

Please mate, I'm trying to lose some weight here, before my next trip overseas  (No, not Singapore ! )

 

The Grauniad is a well-repected slightly-left-wing rag, known for it's poor spelling/editing, in the UK.

[jesimps]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Thank you for posting the link.

 

Interesting that The Guardian think the 2013-4 street protests were about the rice scheme failures. They must have missed the Amnesty Bill fiasco! Or there again, doesn't fit their agenda to report reality.

 

As a newspaper, great for wrapping fish and chips!

You mean the attempted amnesty bill which was stopped by democratic checks and balances? Unlike the junta self-imposed blanket amnesty for past and future transgressions.

 

Agree with you about the Guardian though. Disgusting marxist rag.

 

[Baerboxer]

1 hour ago, baboon said:

If he doesn't try and get her back, it makes a mockery of the whole shebang and makes it look like the junta were in on her departure.

They have their heads between the hammer and the anvil and it is all their own fault.

 

When in power, both sides seem pretty good at creating big messes for themselves out of stupidity.

 

Which possibly indicates neither are fit to be running things.

 

One little lie creates such an elaborate web............ and isn't helped by people who seem to do things without any thoughts.

[tukkytuktuk]

There are rumours that Yingluck left home on Wednesday night in the vehicle of a high-up government official. She was driven to border Thai-Cambodian near Koh Chang (Trat to Hat Lek border crossing) . Yingluck was then escorted by her body guards to Phnom Penh International Airport. Where a private jet was waiting for her. She flew to Singapore and met up with her brother Thaksin. They are then rumoured to board his private Lear jet to Dubai. So Yingluck and Thaksin would have arrived yesterday afternoon in Dubai. I guess that today they are sorting out all her paperwork for Citizenship, etc. Her immediate family must have traveled out the country also, but maybe not together.

[stephen tracy]

24 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Are you suggesting he's innocent?

 

Or questioning the sentence?

 

If the latter, then the US also punishes white collar crime severely. 

 

This was a government minister, who broke his oath to line his and his cronies pockets. And line them considerably by defrauding the tax payers.

 

In the old communist regimes of Africa and Eastern Europe he'd have been quietly shot. Same today in China.

Ok fair enough but 42 years?  If I raped a little kid how much would I get?

[soalbundy]

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

11:45am

 

Sources close to Yingluck say she left the country for Singapore where her brother Thaksin Shinawatra is presently.

Bloomberg says the same, even the government thinks so, Cambodia then on to Dubai, all without a passport ? Deputy PM says there are several ways she could have left, so passports aren't important and the government let her go with a sigh of relief,maybe even gave her a passport.

[Fumanchang]

Thaksin never wanted to overthrow the current social order, he just wanted to be in the number 2 spot. Now that he's seen that the Junta are not playing by the old rules I wonder if he will now fully embrace the movement for change and take the gloves off in what has become a fight to the death.

[Jimdandy]

When the government well get around to changing the national slogan from

 

"land of Smiles'

to

'Civil War Waiting to Happen'....

[Baerboxer]

3 minutes ago, stephen tracy said:

Ok fair enough but 42 years?  If I raped a little kid how much would I get?

 

Depends were you were. Sentences in the UK get criticized for being too lenient. Other countries impose daft sentences like 150 years or some such.

 

There shouldn't be some trade off. All crimes should be punished according to the contexts of that particular conviction and in accordance with the punishments prescribed by law.

 

42 years to us seems excessive because we're now conditioned to very short lenient sentences. Some CEO's and business people in America are serving long sentences for white collar crime. Personally, I think that's something the US has right.

[Beats56]

Yes the wife just  showed me a picture of her getting off a airplane in Singapore then is going to fly to Dubai on Facebook. You know the court was going to find her guilty so not much else she could do. She really pulled a Fast one.

 

[Yann55]

26 minutes ago, Foozool said:

That makes sense. A great deal to keep Thailand in peace. ?

She will join her brother + red shirts will have nothing to fight for. 

Cheers

 

 

I'm with you on this.

 

The posters who write that Shins are 'better chess players' and call her flight a 'clever move' are, I think, totally missing the point. Monitoring a person's move is the easiest thing in the world nowadays and to imagine that she could flee without the army/police/secret service knowing about is laughable.

 

The fact is that political tension here was reaching an alarming level, and by letting her go, the junta made a clever move, because now it's not so easy for her to present herself as a martyr - although she will of course continue to play the victim card, like her brother before her, because that's what they do. Hardly high level strategy.

 

I have no particular sympathy with the present government but I believe they did the right thing for Thailand here.

 

 

[DrPhibes]

5 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Lead story on the BBC website. For a society that places so much value on face, they really do have a knack for washing their dirty laundry in public.

 

The Junta hounding after the incredibly popular, democratically elected PM that they removed via yet another coup. Whatever you think of Yingluck, it's not a positive image for Thailand.

Was also lead story on CNN also for a while.

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, Jimdandy said:

When the government well get around to changing the national slogan from

 

"land of Smiles'

to

'Civil War Waiting to Happen'....

The problem has gone now, no civil war, pragmatism ruled over the court, junta and Yingluck happy

[plachon]

26 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Would you care to explain on what grounds you believe she was innocent of the actual charges?

 

If she's done a runner it's because she thought the chance of being jailed higher than most others thought. Or she just couldn't stand the thought of all that loss of face!

 

She never attempted to defend the actual charge. And knows that like in her brother's case, bribery and intimidation of judges aren't going to work. So it's do a runner and keep diverting from facing up to the actual charges.

Yes indeed. As yellow-bellied and spineless as her pii chai absconder from justice. Expected a bit more backbone from Yingluk, but disappointed as always with the way she treats her supporters without the means to do a runner to Dubai. 

[Fumanchang]

2 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

The problem has gone now, no civil war, pragmatism ruled over the court, junta and Yingluck happy

It's coming - the people will have their way in the end. I for one sincerely hope the Juntas treatment of Yingluck is well remembered when Thailand is once again a democratic nation and the criminals of today are being dealt the justice they do richly deserve.

[Baerboxer]

8 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

Bloomberg says the same, even the government thinks so, Cambodia then on to Dubai, all without a passport ? Deputy PM says there are several ways she could have left, so passports aren't important and the government let her go with a sigh of relief,maybe even gave her a passport.

 

Billionaires don't have to worry about such niceties. Besides her very friendly trip to Montenegro when she was PM may have obtained another one, just like brothers.

 

Thaksin knows a lot about Singapore, maybe some things the Lees would prefer kept secret; his eternal friend the Cambodian dictator, and strapped for cash Ruler of Dubai will all no doubt be happy to facilitate for the usual considerations. 

 

But seeing as how the military were supposedly watching and following her, it might be no one cared to stop her. She'll now waffle on about all being political and never doing anything wrong, parroting her brother, and they can claim she did a cowardly runner just like her brother because she knows she's guilty.

 

 

[Fumanchang]

3 minutes ago, plachon said:

Yes indeed. As yellow-bellied and spineless as her pii chai absconder from justice. Expected a bit more backbone from Yingluk, but disappointed as always with the way she treats her supporters without the means to do a runner to Dubai. 

Sorry old chum, there's been a few too many unexplained deaths in custody to risk it. Don't cry though, she'll be back, with big brother, when Thailand is free again.

 

[ramrod711]

6 minutes ago, Yann55 said:

 

I'm with you on this.

 

The posters who write that Shins are 'better chess players' and call her flight a 'clever move' are, I think, totally missing the point. Monitoring a person's move is the easiest thing in the world nowadays and to imagine that she could flee without the army/police/secret service knowing about is laughable.

 

The fact is that political tension here was reaching an alarming level, and by letting her go, the junta made a clever move, because now it's not so easy for her to present herself as a martyr - although she will of course continue to play the victim card, like her brother before her, because that's what they do. Hardly high level strategy.

 

I have no particular sympathy with the present government but I believe they did the right thing for Thailand here.

 

 

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Unpaid-rice-farmers-allege-intimidation-as-protest-30225548.html

I agree with you, she is no martyr, not to anyone that can and is willing, to read

[midas]

37 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Would you care to explain on what grounds you believe she was innocent of the actual charges?

 

If she's done a runner it's because she thought the chance of being jailed higher than most others thought. Or she just couldn't stand the thought of all that loss of face!

 

She never attempted to defend the actual charge. And knows that like in her brother's case, bribery and intimidation of judges aren't going to work. So it's do a runner and keep diverting from facing up to the actual charges.

Or she probably realised that intimidation of judges can work on both sides i.e. whoever is in power

[Baerboxer]

2 minutes ago, midas said:

Or she probably realised that intimidation of judges can work on both sides i.e. whoever is in power

 

It didn't seem to work to well for her when she was in power - and they sure tried!

[AGareth2]

2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Yingluck has a record of lying

and you have a record of telling the truth?

[Fumanchang]

1 minute ago, ramrod711 said:

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Unpaid-rice-farmers-allege-intimidation-as-protest-30225548.html

I agree with you, she is no martyr, not to anyone that can and is willing, to read

She is a loved and adored by millions. She would win an election held today in a landslide. When the day arrives, her homecoming welcoming will be enormous. 

[Baerboxer]

Just now, AGareth2 said:

and you have a record of telling the truth?

 

Are you suggesting other wise?

[pauleddy]

Smart junta. The Lear Jet was waiting and cleared. Now, Uncle will not need to fight 20,000 farmers (if she went to pokey), nor lose face and have her around a lot and making trouble if she had walked free. She was already in Montenegro when the first barricades went up yesterday. LOL.

[soalbundy]

who says politics is boring, this will become a soap all of its own in the months to come

[Dogmatix]

4 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Billionaires don't have to worry about such niceties. Besides her very friendly trip to Montenegro when she was PM may have obtained another one, just like brothers.

 

Thaksin knows a lot about Singapore, maybe some things the Lees would prefer kept secret; his eternal friend the Cambodian dictator, and strapped for cash Ruler of Dubai will all no doubt be happy to facilitate for the usual considerations. 

 

But seeing as how the military were supposedly watching and following her, it might be no one cared to stop her. She'll now waffle on about all being political and never doing anything wrong, parroting her brother, and they can claim she did a cowardly runner just like her brother because she knows she's guilty.

 

 

 

Some of us remember thinking that when she made a state visit as PM to Montenegro, a country that should have been an extremely low priority to a Thai PM, she was actually going there to pick up her passport and citizenship papers against a rainy day.  That rainy day is now here.  There are plenty of Thai officials on the Thaksin payroll who could have helped her cross the border to Cambodia without stamping her passport on the Thai side.  Similarly on the Cambodian side Thaksin has many friends including Hun Sen.  This is without taking into account that the junta actually wants her to flee into exile which may well have relaxed the surveillance on her or even resulted in an escort.