eddie61 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 48 minutes ago, Lunchbob said: Agreed. No farce. Corruption and crime meets justice. Not agreed, corruption and crime meets a derelict justice system. A recipe for disaster...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Fumanchang said: What sentence do you think the Generals deserve for overthrowing the elected government for treason you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Yingluck will know all about how the court system works from when she was running things, my guess is that this is why she did a runner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nausea Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Facing a 42 year sentence and the public prosecutor has no plans to oppose bail (Bangkok Post), mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tilacme Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, ukrules said: Yingluck will know all about how the court system works from when she was running things, my guess is that this is why she did a runner. Whatever her intel, she clearly made the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choff56 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fumanchang said: What sentence do you think the Generals deserve for overthrowing the elected government and costing the nation billions of dollars in lost foreign investment, economic underperformance and blowing 300 billion baht of national reserves? Death by a common beating in a Thai military camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbswales Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 54 minutes ago, seajae said: farce, he was caught with fake rice deals, the only farce are those that think this is a set up but then again you lot cannot accept the truth even with all the evidence, show how pathetic the ones calling this fake are To be fair most of us would argue that nearly all Thai politicians, police and other public officials should face justice - however what most of us are saying is the sentence is a farce - it is putting dodgy dealing on a par with Murder and other more serious crimes. That is why it is farcical. Plus it seems fairly typical that one or two people are singled out for "justice" while the majority of people who must have been complicit get away with it. If the news had been that 20-30 people had been given sentences of between 1 - 5 years then most of us would applaud it. Nobody trusts the justice system except when it delivers a verdict they agree with, and that is rare. I really cannot blame Yingluk for leaving the country given that what amount to life sentences are being handed down for what has been "normal business practice" for decades. What is really needed are checks and balances in the system which make it much less tempting to succumb to corruption in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, scorecard said: 'farce'. Both proven guilty, in fact the investigators found the totally falsified documents to prove the case very easily and in very quick time. you mean the falsified, falsified documents ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gummy Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 minute ago, gbswales said: To be fair most of us would argue that nearly all Thai politicians, police and other public officials should face justice - however what most of us are saying is the sentence is a farce - it is putting dodgy dealing on a par with Murder and other more serious crimes. That is why it is farcical. Plus it seems fairly typical that one or two people are singled out for "justice" while the majority of people who must have been complicit get away with it. If the news had been that 20-30 people had been given sentences of between 1 - 5 years then most of us would applaud it. Nobody trusts the justice system except when it delivers a verdict they agree with, and that is rare. I really cannot blame Yingluk for leaving the country given that what amount to life sentences are being handed down for what has been "normal business practice" for decades. What is really needed are checks and balances in the system which make it much less tempting to succumb to corruption in the first place. A very articulate and accurate description of the Thai issues. However one point I would take issue with is that murder in Thailand is dealt with less securely than others. The taking of a human life should be , in my book, the worst crime , and hence secure the longest possible punishment. But Thailand with their greed continues to provide longer punishments where it concerns money. that is the problem when you have a failed ideology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 37 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: he has been taken directly to Bangkok Remand Prison. That's where Yingluck would have been gone to as well ... she knew it , somebody in the justice system told her about it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark131v Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, gbswales said: To be fair most of us would argue that nearly all Thai politicians, police and other public officials should face justice - however what most of us are saying is the sentence is a farce - it is putting dodgy dealing on a par with Murder and other more serious crimes. That is why it is farcical. Plus it seems fairly typical that one or two people are singled out for "justice" while the majority of people who must have been complicit get away with it. If the news had been that 20-30 people had been given sentences of between 1 - 5 years then most of us would applaud it. Nobody trusts the justice system except when it delivers a verdict they agree with, and that is rare. I really cannot blame Yingluk for leaving the country given that what amount to life sentences are being handed down for what has been "normal business practice" for decades. What is really needed are checks and balances in the system which make it much less tempting to succumb to corruption in the first place. Exactly!!! Big problem is the people in charge make it up as they go along, corruption and a complete lack of a moral compass coupled with an over riding sense of entitlement is a complete recipe for disaster where any expectation of justice or fair play is involved Unfortunately the present master of the trough is completely unable and lacks any of the knowledge, personality or skill to bring about any meaningful change so I can only see this ending messily, might not be today or tomorrow but it is coming.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Agreed. No farce. Corruption and crime meets justice.If you really believe this is justice, I pity you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdy2206 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 As expected. Mr 44 influencing the court - or instructing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdy2206 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 What a country. The elite do what they want. No respect for 99.9% of the population. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homburg Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, nikmar said: Wonder what Yingluck wouldve got if she was found guilty. "if"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Gov to Gov deals with the chinese now where did I hear that b4? Good luck to YL she did the right thing in leaving, now lets hope this is the start of the end game for the unelected PM and his bunch schoolboy thugs when he runs it will be china that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikmar Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Homburg said: "if"? Beg pardon. not thinking before posting!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilSA1 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 I wonder if the sentences were "leaked" to Yingluck in order to prompt her to leave Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Don't waste the media space because 42 years but suspended. End of the story! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Tilacme said: Where is the dignity in attending a court which you feel (and has since been proved) to be stacked against you. Retreat and fight another day. Are you suggesting that Mr. Boonsong, and his co-defendants, didn't commit serious fraud in the fictitious G2G deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 32 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said: If you really believe this is justice, I pity you Do you believe there was no fraud in the fictitious export deals in the false G2G sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natway09 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 seajae,,, who do you think directed him to set up these fake deals??????? This could start an uprising or civil war Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamini Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Fumanchang said: 42 years is an insane sentence in this instance. There was an insane amount of money involved in the fake deals he engineered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Do you believe there was no fraud in the fictitious export deals in the false G2G sales?Do you believe 42 years is a proportionate and just sentence? Are frauds and corruption within the current government being pursued with same vigour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrew33 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Do you believe there was no fraud in the fictitious export deals in the false G2G sales? If fraud and enriching oneself unlawfully was proportionately punished in Thailand there would be no one left to make up government. The issue here is justice and the simple fact is that this is one side taking retribution against their opponents. Period. An inability to see that suggests a ridiculous level of bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 He looks very happy for a fellow that just won a 42 year lockup with a large Thai guy named Som Chai who likes evening massages with happy endings. I guess that was his dream all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 2 hours ago, gummy said: what a farce ? Why a farce? They committed a crime. It's well documented if you want to take the time to research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Wonder who tipped her off to fly the nest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Let,s not lose sight of the fact that these people were a bunch of crooks, looking to line their own pockets, and they deserve some come-uppance ! I would also venture that Yingluck was merely following big brother,s instructions, but does that make her any the less guilty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 7 minutes ago, craigt3365 said: Why a farce? They committed a crime. It's well documented if you want to take the time to research. Why do you seem to believe then that committing fraud is more serious than causing the death of someone? Because that is what is being suggested here by the length of the sentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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