THAI aborts Perth-Bangkok flight after airport accident

[chainarong]

6 hours ago, Oziex1 said:

I'll take it from here.

 

"The pilot had to comply with safety standards and abort the flight."
 

My suspicious nit picking outlook thinks this is worded as though it was some inconvenience as he "had to comply".

 

Unlike the international aviation standards that the Thai authorities seem to avoid back in Thailand.

 

Might have read a bit better if was written " For the safety of passengers and crew the aircraft did not take off. or similar.

 

 

I'd say the OZ authoritize, DCA, would be breathing right down their backs , no way was that flight taking off without a proper inspection.

[Sir Swagman]

Two ways this damage could happen. 1) pilot releases the brakes before being cleared to do so, or 2) aerobridge either drops in retraction from door 2 or was not   positioned correctly before aircraft began pushback. As for pilot having 100% say over go/no go decision - in theory, and most of the time with most airlines, true. There are exceptions however.

But please, carry on as always in the forum and pontificate and deliberate with little to no knowledge of this (or any for that matter) topic.

[digger70]

7 hours ago, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

"The pilot had to comply with safety standards and abort the flight"

 

More grammatically perfect nonsense. Are these stories robotic translations of Thai summaries or do the journos just make it up? Of course a plane can't liftoff with a hole in the engine. In such an incident the plane would be suddenly swarmed with managers and aircraft engineers. Meanwhile the Pilot (Captain) will be communicating with airport operations, Dispatchers, and maintenence supervisors. Then they make delay announcements in the cabin. No replacement plane available of course the flight will be cancelled, by Thai Airways Flight control. The jetway driver will be fired, brake failure is not an excuse under "international aviation standard".

 

Pilots can delay flights for weather conditions or "abort" a takeoff for warning lights but they don't have the authority to cancel a flight in a big airline like Thai Airways.

 

 

 

Where Hole in Engine Sherlock?It is only a Scratch in the cowling (Engine cover)

[tso310]

 

59 minutes ago, Sir Swagman said:

Two ways this damage could happen. 1) pilot releases the brakes before being cleared to do so, or 2) aerobridge either drops in retraction from door 2 or was not   positioned correctly before aircraft began pushback. As for pilot having 100% say over go/no go decision - in theory, and most of the time with most airlines, true. There are exceptions however.

But please, carry on as always in the forum and pontificate and deliberate with little to no knowledge of this (or any for that matter) topic.

Clearly either 1 or 2. A little surprised at this type of accident. Perth does receive a number of A380 flights so that should be used to handling them. 

[calexapic]

Wow so many pilots and aeronautical engineers on here. 

 

Insignificant warning lights and only creases to the cowling. 

 

I know nothing about the workings of aircraft so very happy to let experts decide to abort flights for the sake of safety. 

[NanLaew]

4 hours ago, Sir Swagman said:

Two ways this damage could happen. 1) pilot releases the brakes before being cleared to do so, or 2) aerobridge either drops in retraction from door 2 or was not   positioned correctly before aircraft began pushback. As for pilot having 100% say over go/no go decision - in theory, and most of the time with most airlines, true. There are exceptions however.

But please, carry on as always in the forum and pontificate and deliberate with little to no knowledge of this (or any for that matter) topic.

Since the engines are aft of the air bridge, even in the totally unlikely instance of a pilot backing off the stand before it was clear, how could the airbridge hit the engine cowl?

 

It was a 787, not an A380 so only the 'front' door and single air bridge is used so bugger all to drop on anything.

 

BTW, flightradar24 website indicates the aircraft involved( HS-TQF) is still at PER.

[jacko45k]

 

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Safety is taken very seriously at Perth airport. 

Except when it comes to swinging jetways all over the place.

[inThailand]

standard operating procedures....

is a lot of concrete and some roof sheet metal and your good to go.

[metisdead]

Some troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

Since the engines are aft of the air bridge, even in the totally unlikely instance of a pilot backing off the stand before it was clear, how could the airbridge hit the engine cowl?

 

It was a 787, not an A380 so only the 'front' door and single air bridge is used so bugger all to drop on anything.

 

BTW, flightradar24 website indicates the aircraft involved( HS-TQF) is still at PER.

Not surprising according to flightradar24 TG BHS-TQF still AOG (grounded for maintenance) on YPPH. Methinks the jet will be down there for sometime, until damage can be repaired. Two days AOG is a major hassle for the TG aircraft scheduling department. Certainly caused by something more than a rub, cosmetic scratch, or so-called 60 cm "trace".

 

Here is how an B-787 from Xiamen Airlines in China faired last year when struck by a jetbridge. No airplane can liftoff with a large hole in the engine cowling.

[Stargeezr]

There is very little clearance between the fan blades and the engine cowlings, and that

is why an engineer has to inspect the aircraft before it is deemed fit to fly. The pilot and

airline just followed the rules.

Geezer

[NanLaew]

OMG!! Is the air bridge OK???

[josephbloggs]

On 27/08/2017 at 5:33 PM, calexapic said:

Wow so many pilots and aeronautical engineers on here. 

 

Insignificant warning lights and only creases to the cowling. 

 

I know nothing about the workings of aircraft so very happy to let experts decide to abort flights for the sake of safety. 

 

Yep, as well as the pilots and aeronautical engineers we're also lucky to have all the foreign safety experts here.  The aircraft was grounded because "Perth takes safety very seriously", "The DCA would be breathing down their necks, no way would they let that plane fly etc", both posts implying the Thai crew would naturally take off with a damaged cowling, only the heroic safety-conscious farang came to the rescue.

 

Hey guys, if an airbridge hit and damaged a plane in Bangkok the Thai Civil Aviation Authority (CAAT) rules would have grounded it for inspection / repairs too!  As far as I know these kind of procedures are pretty universal. Amazing, huh?  But of course if it had happened in Bangkok you all could have had a laugh at the incompetent Thai airbridge operators.  

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

There is very little clearance between the fan blades and the engine cowlings, and that
is why an engineer has to inspect the aircraft before it is deemed fit to fly. The pilot and
airline just followed the rules.
Geezer

HS-TQF is still grounded in Perth.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-tqf

If an engine change is required due to the reported "60 cm trace" it may be there some time. THAI does not posses a spare 787 Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engine at this time. They have experienced service difficulties recently reportedly due to a global shortage of Trent 1000 engines and spare parts.

[NanLaew]

On 8/31/2017 at 0:15 PM, ChiangMaiLightning2143 said:

 

HS-TQF is still grounded in Perth.

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/aircraft/hs-tqf

If an engine change is required due to the reported "60 cm trace" it may be there some time. THAI does not posses a spare 787 Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engine at this time. They have experienced service difficulties recently reportedly due to a global shortage of Trent 1000 engines and spare parts.

 

She got back tonight.

 

Sorted.

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, NanLaew said:

She got back tonight.

 

Sorted.

And has subsequently served the BKK-PEK-BKK route.

[ChiangMaiLightning2143]

That is to be expected, after 5 days when the heavy cowling damage from jetbridge encounter has been safely repaired.