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Do you also have a list of or a link to the 60,000 Palestinians who have been killed in the past two years and the 1,950 Palestinian prisoners that are supposed to be released soon?

This is a non-ending war against the Palestinians and the Muslim existence in the areas called Israel and Palestine. I also don't expect this war will end soon. Gaza should be rebuilt, and Palestine should be recognized as a state with at least the same borders as the UN set in 1947.

Our problem (there are many, but this is one) is that you believe "expel" is an official administrative edict from the authorities of some place that requires the person to leave. I think "expel" can be used as a more general term for forcing someone to leave a place, like what Israel is doing to the residents of Gaza, and also some Palestinian residents of the West Bank. Also, I'm asking again: Are you able to post a link that is active on these forums? If so, how? And, I think we are both in agreement that very soon now, within hours, we are looking forward to Israel returning a large number of Palestinian prisoners.

I'm almost 80 and have a Krungsri account. I also have a Krungsri app on my phone. I used to have one on my PC, but it's just been closed down (for everyone). I've had the app for a long time, probably over 10 years. And, my Immigration Office in Phetchabun has NEVER mentioned that I need a bank app to extend my stay. I do need a full year's copy of my account showing I've deposited at least THB 65K every month, along with a letter from the bank manager stating I've been a customer for the year.

You first find out what the word expelled means . EXPEL - "1. To force or drive out" Expel - definition of expel by The Free Dictionary REFUGEE - "One who flees, especially to another country, seeking refuge from war, political oppression, religious persecution, or a natural disaster." Refugee - definition of refugee by The Free Dictionary

They fled there when war broke out . They were not expelled . Many Palestinians also came from Jordan and Egypt originally , so, they were just going back to where they came from Do you know what the word "refugee" means? They were driven out - expelled. "Originally," in 1947, Palestinians made up about 90% of the population of Palestine. Jews were less than 10%. Then, the UN gave 54% of the land to the Jews. 1947: Palestine Population & Jewish Immigration Now the Jews have about 87% of the land. How much land has Israel taken from Palestine? That, IMO, is why the Palestinians hate the Israelis.

Here's another link... Israel’s West Bank operation fuels mass displacement of Palestinians https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2025/06/israels-destructive-west-bank-military-operation-fuels-mass-forced-displacement-of-palestinians/Israel’s West Bank operation fuels mass displacement of Palestinians

That link does support my claim. The subtitle of the main article says "Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon are home to many Palestinian refugees already. " And, by the way, how can I post a link on these forums that appears as a clickable link? I used to be able to do that, but now, all the links I post are just text.

No, but I can post a link to another source... Where could Palestinians forced from Gaza go – and what have those nations said about Trump's plan? | The Independent https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/trump-gaza-palestinians-jordan-egypt-lebanon-b2692576.html

They are being told to relocate to some other Arab country. At least that's what CNN says. Anyway, my point in all my posts about this is that BOTH sides are guilty of violence against the other, and BOTH sides want all the land for themselves alone. You may believe one side is more guilty than the other, but both sides are guilty. 😞

They've been expelled from land Israel has taken by force, and they are, even now, being expelled from both Gaza and the West Bank.

I disagree. I believe Jews are just as guilty of attacking Muslims in Palestine, especially over the past two years, but Israeli attacks and expelling Muslims have been going on for at least 70 years. IMO, they are both at fault.

"Both sides" did not commit any atrocities on Oct 7, 2023. Only one side did by killing around 2,000 people- Hamas/Palestine. From Oct 8, 2023, to the present, for over two years, one side has committed an overwhelmingly large number of atrocities. killing as many as 60,000 people - Israel. Like I've said several times above, BOTH sides are at fault.

Why has Israel taken about 90% of all Palestinian land since the division in 1947? Israel wants the whole land for itself, with Palestine not existing. They both only want a one-state solution, and I think any attempts at creating a two-state solution (again) will not be accepted. I believe this "war" will go on and on regardless of whatever agreements are reached now. 😞

Maybe they will be thanking Israel for ridding Hamas from Gaza ? Brave and courageous Israeli soldiers fought and defeated Hamas freeing Gaza from the Hamas gangsters and allowing them to live freely and prosperously About 1,000 Israelis were killed on Oct 7, and fewer than 1,000 IDF soldiers have been killed in Gaza. That's about 2,000 Israeli dead compared to 50 to 60,000 Palestinians. Like I said above, I predict there will be a lot of Palestinian survivors and many Muslims elsewhere who will continue to seek revenge on Israel in the coming years, regardless of what agreements are made. This Jew/Muslim conflict will probably never be settled. And, just for the record, I put the blame on BOTH sides. 😞

I agree wholeheartedly... 😞

Read the Exodus in the Old Testament of the Bible, or the Torah. After wandering around in the desert for many years, the Jews finally reached Canaan, which they took from the Canaanites by force - or so these books say. And, if you look at the 1947 map of Palestine and how the UN then divided up the land between the Israelis and Palestinians, and compare it to today, you'll see how much land Israel has taken from the Palestinians.

I agree, but I also believe that the reason you quote above also applies to Israel.

Yes, and I believe the same can be said for the right-wing, nationalistic wing of the Israeli government that is now in charge of Israel. They believe all of the land that used to be called "Palestine" was given to them centuries ago by their "God" and all Muslim infidels should be eliminated. Netanyahu is a good example of that.

I obviously don't know the answer to that question, but I believe all the hostages that are living and can be found will be returned alive. I also believe some, hopefully only a few, of the hostages that are dead will not be able to be located, so their bodies will not be returned. I think this could cause problems.

I don't agree, especially in this case. With 50 to 60,000 Palestinians killed over the past two years, I believe there will be a lot of husbands/wives, fathers/mothers, sons/daughters who will never forgive Israel for what they have done. I don't know what the Germans or Vietnamese think of the USA now. I would think there are some that will never forgive the USA, especially in Vietnam, for how we conducted the war there.

Yes! I want to make it clear here that I don't see this as a black-and-white situation, where one side is right and the other side is wrong. I think both sides are wrong.

I disagree with some of what you wrote above. I don't think the far-right party now in charge of Israel will EVER consider a 2SS. I do agree that so many Palestinians have been killed over the past two years that this and the upcoming generation will never want peace with Israel, including a 2SS. They, of course, don't have the military power to really confront Israel, but attacks like Oct 7 and periodic assassinations will, IMO, continue. I think this "war" will continue for at least the 50 years you mentioned. I'll be dead by then, so I won't ever know how, if at all, it's resolved.

They never needed any excuses Yes, at least that's what they think. They believe their "God" gave them this land centuries ago, so anything they do to take all the land as their own is okay.

I hope you're right, and I also hope Hamas is able to return all the hostages, living and dead, in the time specified. I hope this agreement continues and expands into serious discussions about a two-state solution. But, I wouldn't bet on that... 😞