"English teacher out!" Student power calls for an end to violence and foul mouthed teacher

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"English teacher out!" Student power calls for an end to violence and foul mouthed teacher

 

Picture: Sanook

 

A mass student protest with placards and chanting called for a female English teacher causing trouble at a Chumporn school to be sacked.

 

Twenty teachers have also asked to be transferred elsewhere and the director was left in tears.

 

The governor of the province sent his deputy for a crisis meeting and a committee of inquiry has been set up and the twenty teachers are in inactive posts in the meantime.

 

Some 540 students in sports tops and tracksuits led by the M6 student council gathered outside the school gates yesterday at 9.30am.

 

They are demanding the removal of English teacher Jaruwan. Sanook reported there were several reasons all featuring inappropriate behavior for a teacher.

 

These were:

 

Hitting students in M2 with a ruler

Dressing inappropriately - namely wearing too short skirts

Not coming to class

Going home early

Using rude and abusive language

 

The students said there is no video evidence of the alleged infractions as phones are banned in the school. But they said they had plenty of witnesses.

 

Deputy governor Chaisit Phanitpong rushed to the school in Tha Se district of Chumporn. A meeting was organised with ten student reps and the 20 teachers who want a transfer.

 

Jaruwan was told to wait outside as the assembly aired their grievances.

 

The school director Sujitra said there had been nothing but trouble since Jaruwan arrived and they had tried to get rid of her but it was impossible. She wanted to leave too because she was so unhappy with the situation.

 

When told that the students would boycott the school if Jaruwan stayed she could answer no more questions and fled in tears.

 

Chaisit decided following the meeting to temporarily transfer the 20 teachers to inactive posts while an inquiry takes place.

 

Source: Sanook

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-09-26

[kotsak]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

Dressing inappropriately - namely wearing too short skirts

Pics or it never happened..

 

[Thaiwrath]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

They are demanding the removal of English teacher Jaruwan.

Jaruwan's reply in her best English was:

 

Why they want  finish me ?

I teach them talk good.

I come school every time.

I pass them English, no ploblem !

 

 

[steven100]

12 minutes ago, webfact said:

The school director Sujitra

This guy needs to act ....  grow up and start managing.

sack her ....  and get on with running a school.

[oxo1947]

Sadly, the days of people using proper English are went......

[steven100]

2 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said:

Jaruwan's reply in her best English was:

 

Why they want  finish me ?

I teach them talk good.

I come school every time.

I pass them English, no ploblem !

 

 

she said   ;  can i hell you

[kotsak]

3 minutes ago, Thaiwrath said:

Jaruwan's reply in her best English was:

 

Why they want  finish me ?

I teach them talk good.

I come school every time.

I pass them English, no ploblem !

 

 

Closing statement was "I loved them long time"

[trogers]

Nothing to worry about lacking an English teacher.

 

The girls will excel in the language while working with tourists, and then teach it to the boys.

[NCC1701A]

amazing that one person can cause this much chaos and the situation would be allowed to go on for so long.

 

 

[canuckamuck]

Such an effective system, they have to resort to protest to solve a simple issue.

[colinneil]

1 hour ago, steven100 said:

This guy needs to act ....  grow up and start managing.

sack her ....  and get on with running a school.

The directors name is Sujitra, that is a ladies name, so i think the director is a she not a he.

Also 20 teachers in inactive posts? What about the childrens education?

Edited September 26, 2017 by colinneil

[Airbagwill]

Whereas there may well be a genuine problem,  and the media won't helop in getting to the bottom of this - I have noticed that in some circumstances - work, school or other institution a mob mentality settles in and I've witnessed quite "innocent" people succumb to the accusations of a group that were in reality totally unfounded.

It seems to me that this often occurs with an ulterior motive - a grudge by a worker or in this case a student, parent or other teacher and it is amazing how quickly with a few carefully directed bits of gossip the "accusee" kind find themselves in front of a baying mob.

[Airbagwill]

3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Jaruwan's reply in her best English was:

 

Why they want  finish me ?

I teach them talk good.

I come school every time.

I pass them English, no ploblem !

 

 

Clearly you are unaware of how learning a language works even less so teaching it.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

amazing that one person can cause this much chaos and the situation would be allowed to go on for so long.

 

 

 

Another example, friends kids were going to a mid-expensive private school, good for most subjects but has had around 10 maths teachers for P 3, 4, 5 in the last 3 years.

 

None of them could teach maths, all resigned because of the volume of complaints and severe comments from parents (Thai and farang). (Note: School owner / director refuses to meet any parents for any reason - if your not happy talk direct to the teacher.) 

 

During gaps between teachers no maths taught.

 

End result, large number of kids, now in high school lost and failing maths, current teacher not too bad but refuse to go back to the missing foundations. Owner still refuses to listen. 

 

Friend moved his kids to another school some time back. 

[anon467367354]

Students knowing they'll be passed encourages them to do nothing.

Teachers knowing they won't be fired doesn't encourage excellence.

One of the many things that hinders Thailand from becoming more than a 3rd world mentality country. A developed country is not the same as a developed society. 

[SoulWater]

Inactive posts? Is it a police school? 

[Katipo]

"Chaisit decided following the meeting to temporarily transfer the 20 teachers to inactive posts while an inquiry takes place."....

 

 

So this outcome was easier than temporarily transferring 1 teacher to an inactive post? Not to mention the students have probably lost 20 half decent teachers while still being stuck with the problem one.  

 

How unlike government officials to make a bad situation worse. 

[RichardinHuaHin]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

amazing that one person can cause this much chaos and the situation would be allowed to go on for so long.

 

 

You  can't fix stupid.

[Regyai]

Seems the school director needs a stationery requisition for a larger ruler.

[Airbagwill]

the Thai education system, both private and public is largely an unmitigated disaster - monitoring of standards is almost non-existent and even the parameters for assessing is education is working is in the dark ages - employment practices are archaic and like doctors, the status of teachers is pretty much unassailable - however there IS a worse criterion for education and that is listening to PARENTS - most of whom either went through the dreadful Thai system themselves or some other system about which they know nothing.

 

most Thai parents think their kids should go through a system like Japan or Korea - which they don't understand and both are systems that have been shown to be severely flawed.

 

if they really want to see an education system that works look at Finland or any of the Scandinavian countries.

 

thailand is so far away from this it is hard to see how they could ever catch up - except that the Finish system turned itself around in about 5 years!!!

[Covertjay]

1 hour ago, gr8fldanielle said:

a 3rd world mentality 

An irrelevant and outdated cold war expression. How can one aspire to 'second world' status (communism) when it no longer exists.

[Covertjay]

1 hour ago, gr8fldanielle said:

a 3rd world mentality 

An irrelevant and outdated cold war expression. How can one aspire to 'second world' status (communism) when it no longer exists.

[4MyEgo]

4 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

amazing that one person can cause this much chaos and the situation would be allowed to go on for so long.

 

 

Must have had something to do with what was she was wearing under her inappropriate clothing, but you will have to ask the principal and hopefully his name is not the same as Shultz.

 

 

[Briggsy]

This report could be true.

 

However, a protest of this size in Thailand definitely takes a phoo yai to organise. The defamation of Jaruwan in the article could just as easily be explained by a battle over the school budget. Corruption in the Ministry of Education is endemic and material (in amount).

[amvet]

8 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

Must have had something to do with what was she was wearing under her inappropriate clothing, but you will have to ask the principal and hopefully his name is not the same as Shultz.

 

 

Not that this is a reading comprehension test but I believe that the school director is a she.  Maybe read the story again.

Edited September 26, 2017 by amvet

[4MyEgo]

11 minutes ago, amvet said:

Not that this is a reading comprehension test but I believe that the school director is a she.  Maybe read the story again.

Correct, the school director is a female, and I was referring to the principal, you may wish to read my post again 555

[gabruce]

57 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

the Thai education system, both private and public is largely an unmitigated disaster - monitoring of standards is almost non-existent and even the parameters for assessing is education is working is in the dark ages - employment practices are archaic and like doctors, the status of teachers is pretty much unassailable - however there IS a worse criterion for education and that is listening to PARENTS - most of whom either went through the dreadful Thai system themselves or some other system about which they know nothing.

 

most Thai parents think their kids should go through a system like Japan or Korea - which they don't understand and both are systems that have been shown to be severely flawed.

 

if they really want to see an education system that works look at Finland or any of the Scandinavian countries.

 

thailand is so far away from this it is hard to see how they could ever catch up - except that the Finish system turned itself around in about 5 years!!!

Thanks for pointing out Finland. Interesting.

 

 See https://www.google.co.th/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwi89_qss8LWAhXDtY8KHQPcAhwQFggqMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fuk.businessinsider.com%2Fwef-ranking-of-best-school-systems-in-the-world-2016-2016-11&usg=AFQjCNFLfGXKn0syeY_CnCCvWQ2SnDaweg

 

Ranks Finland as #1. 

 

I found this interesting article linked as well: http://www.businessinsider.com/finland-education-school-2011-12/#-percent-of-children-receive-extra-help-during-their-first-nine-years-of-school-7

 

There was another chart elsewhere on the web that ranked Japan and Korea at the top, so I guess there is some subjectivity. Disappointing that Canada didn't make the top 10 (or 11).

 

[hansnl]

7 hours ago, kotsak said:

Pics or it never happened..

 

Indeed, the biggest wrongdoing.

Short skirt, no pictures.

[orchidfan]

7 hours ago, oxo1947 said:

Sadly, the days of people using proper English are went......

 

 

Some of the members here must have learnt English at a Thai school..

"Than instead of "then""

"There,their and they're ".

"Where ,were, we're, ware, wear"

"Is" instead of "are"...

"There's" means "there is"

"There're " means "there are"

"There's " is not "theirs "

I could go on...

[Rhys]

5 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

Another example, friends kids were going to a mid-expensive private school, good for most subjects but has had around 10 maths teachers for P 3, 4, 5 in the last 3 years.

 

None of them could teach maths, all resigned because of the volume of complaints and severe comments from parents (Thai and farang). (Note: School owner / director refuses to meet any parents for any reason - if your not happy talk direct to the teacher.) 

 

During gaps between teachers no maths taught.

 

End result, large number of kids, now in high school lost and failing maths, current teacher not too bad but refuse to go back to the missing foundations. Owner still refuses to listen. 

 

Friend moved his kids to another school some time back. 

 

Sounds typical of some of these.. power be me types..,  eventually after as much damage they can let occur.. they leave... with more money...in the deep pockets.