Blacklist

[vasudev]

2 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

Line :Yes it is possible to clear Blacklist and enter the Kingdom, you will be escorted and given a VOA, from which you can revisa internally, Retirement, Dependant, ED     Line :Thanyarat -14,she is doing for a German national at the moment 

Thanx a lot for these kind words and making my day, can u pls clarify what is VOA?

[vasudev]

10 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

Line :Yes it is possible to clear Blacklist and enter the Kingdom, you will be escorted and given a VOA, from which you can revisa internally, Retirement, Dependant, ED     Line :Thanyarat -14,she is doing for a German national at the moment 

Thanx for you kind words and making my day, pls clarify VOA?thanyarat -14 is she a lawyer?

[Sri Thanonchai]

The Blacklist applies at points of entry, not within the Kingdom 

[Sri Thanonchai]

Visa on Arrival 

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

Visa on Arrival 

Not everybody can get a 15 day visa on arrival. It is only available to those from 21 countries after applying for it and paying a 2000 baht fee.

Those from some countries can get a 30 day visa exempt entry while others must have a visa issued by a embassy or consulate to enter the country.

[Sri Thanonchai]

I have been a member of this forum for many years,, reading the Posts and shaking my head at the utter ignorance of the replies to people in distress, I have not posted due to forgetting my password, which I reset just now to alleviate your anguish 

[Sri Thanonchai]

Ubonjoe, I have read your advice for years and what advice you give is splendid however, the escorting officer will issue it moreover, it can be converted to a Non Imm three months and at the same time a 12 month Retirement, Dependant, ED, without leaving the Kingdom, this I can assure you 100%

[Sri Thanonchai]

With regard to a Lawyer resolving this matter, hopeless, why? All law enforcement hold a very dim view of Lawyers 

[LannaGuy]

1 hour ago, tonray said:

He set up a Thai company with fake (non-existent) nominees, perhaps for the purpose of home purchase, not sure.

 

As have 1000s of others?  surely there must be more to it than that? 

[Sri Thanonchai]

Assume Nothing 

[ubonjoe]

16 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

Ubonjoe, I have read your advice for years and what advice you give is splendid however, the escorting officer will issue it moreover, it can be converted to a Non Imm three months and at the same time a 12 month Retirement, Dependant, ED, without leaving the Kingdom, this I can assure you 100%

I can assure you that is not correct,

See this list for those that can get a visa on arrival or a visa exempt entry. http://www.consular.go.th/main/th/customize/62281-Summary-of-Countries-and-Territories-entitled-for.html

A immigration officer cannot issue a visa at the airport for more than 15 days and that is only for those that qualify for a VOA.

It is possible to convert to a 90 day non immigrant visa entry at immigration. But not with a visa on arrival. It can only be done with a visa exempt or tourist visa entry. Also the extension is no longer issued on the same day the visa is done. It requires waiting until the last 30 days of the 90 day entry.

[Cranky]

10 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

 

As have 1000s of others?  surely there must be more to it than that? 

 

More often than not the 'offender' has been grassed up.  How keen is the missis to leave Thailand?  House, nominee company, Farang, er I think I've heard this one before somewhere(s).

 

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck.....

[jgarbo]

3 hours ago, Stradavarius37 said:

Ahhh - Perhaps he didn't know it was illegal to do that...

Then he should not be in business. First rule of business: Learn the rules. 

[ThaiWai]

34 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

I have been a member of this forum for many years,, reading the Posts and shaking my head at the utter ignorance of the replies to people in distress, I have not posted due to forgetting my password, which I reset just now to alleviate your anguish 

 

I love this post.  Everyone else is an idiot but it took you years to figure out how to get a new password.  Please post more, I love it!

[Mattd]

1 minute ago, tonray said:

No he is concerned on entry if his lawyer is able to get his blacklist annulled somehow 

To be exact, he is trying to get the blacklist / ban lifted, so that he can enter Thailand soon, rather than having to wait 5 years.

[Currumbin]

3 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

 

Lawyers always do give hope... only reason they stay in business...

Hope and a bill.

[ubonjoe]

A baiting inflammatory post and the expected reply to it have been removed.

[Eff1n2ret]

5 minutes ago, Currumbin said:

3 hours ago, LazySlipper said:

 

Lawyers always do give hope... only reason they stay in business...

Hope and a bill.

Lawyers work on the Charles Revlon principle:- "In the factory we make cosmetics, in the drugstore we sell hope."

[jenny2017]

 

   Lawyers usually tell you what you want to hear after paying a good amount of money. 

 

     The " lock" in form of a blacklist will stay in the computer system and it's up to the individual officer to let you in. Or not.

 

        

[Cranky]

Still can't see what the guy actually did wrong, or is accused of.

[jenny2017]

 

I assume that it's only speculation that the OP did some business with non existing shareholders? 

 

     It's a huge difference if the OP dealt drugs, or had an accident where somebody got injured, or died. 

[ujayujay]

Sorry, I don' t want disappoint you, but, as long you pay the Lawyer, he will give you hope. It's impossible, to fight against blacklisted, with or without a Lawyer, if there not was a fault done by Immigration office.

[Sri Thanonchai]

Ubonjoe, what you quote is correct however, it does not contain discretion nor does it account for thousands of visas done each year as I mentioned above and of which you are not aware, 

[Sri Thanonchai]

Ubonjoe, what you quote is correct however, it does not contain discretion nor does it account for thousands of visas done each year as I mentioned above and of which you are not aware, 

[NanLaew]

3 hours ago, soistalker said:

Can we know the reason you were blacklisted?

Can we know the reason why you hadn't read the entire, very short thread at the time you posted this question?

 

1 hour ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

The mechanics of Royal Thai Immigration are a mystery to the vast majority of posters here however, Num Jai is used along with discretion for people of good character and who have family within the Kingdom 

Or, regardless of what works for one person in any given instance, there are absolutely no guarantees that it will work for anyone else in a similar or even an identical situation.

 

29 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

 

I assume that it's only speculation that the OP did some business with non existing shareholders? 

 

     It's a huge difference if the OP dealt drugs, or had an accident where somebody got injured, or died. 

Covered already in an earlier, separate post where the OP fully disclosed and admitted the wrongdoing with nominee shareholders and even undid the wrongdoing.

[ubonjoe]

7 minutes ago, Sri Thanonchai said:

Ubonjoe, what you quote is correct however, it does not contain discretion nor does it account for thousands of visas done each year as I mentioned above and of which you are not aware, 

Where were they done?

Certainly not at an airport unless it was a standard 15 day visa on arrival for those that qualify for it.

Perhaps you could post a scan or pic of one that has been issued at an airport.

[digger70]

Why have you being blacklisted ? There must have been a Good reason for that,,Why could you not have avoided that? Was it a Stupid mistake or just Laziness,Don't forget Lawyers are only after you're money,,,, The old saying is,,,,,You are only Innocent until  the money runs out,,,,,

[Sri Thanonchai]

The original post person for this thread on Blacklist I have pulled up on Imm database, his Nationality is Indian, which if stated in Post would explain everything, Blacklist can not be removed for African, Indian, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc 

[NanLaew]

Just now, digger70 said:

Why have you being blacklisted ? There must have been a Good reason for that,,Why could you not have avoided that? Was it a Stupid mistake or just Laziness,Don't forget Lawyers are only after you're money,,,, The old saying is,,,,,You are only Innocent until  the money runs out,,,,,

Please read the entire thread. The legal reason (if it matters) is in the first page but is also covered specifically in an earlier, longer thread by the OP which in itself is very enlightening and makes good reading about the actualities of company law with respect to property ownership versus the imponderables of Immigration and their blacklist 'law'.

 

Th reason for overstay has absolutely NO bearing on what the OP is pursuing in this thread.

 

Good luck to the OP.

[dapperdan]

If they don't want me I don't want them. If ever blacklisted I'm gone for good. Do the same. Go back to your country apply for your wife to come and put this place behind you.