New point system aims to weed out bad drivers

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Assurancetourix said:

Shot this morning on rd 22 between Sawang Daen Din and Nong Han ;

would like to know

--how many points the driver of the tractor will lose ? driving in the opposite direction

--how many points the driver of the pickup will lose ? too many children in the back

 

 

Not to mention the 6-wheel 'bus' with standing room only, 3 boy scouts sitting on the back step an another 4 hanging off the ladder and railings.

[aussie11950]

Maybe they should look at a similar system overseas, like Australia amongst others.

But I feel it will fail due to maintenance, system input and connection problems.

 

[HHTel]

4 hours ago, newnative said:

     Once again, 7 1/2 years here, on the road a lot, driving trips all the time to BKK, several trips to north Thailand, etc., never, ever seen a car ticketed for ANY traffic infraction.  Never.  My Thai partner routinely speeds well over the speed limit--has never received a ticket.  How's a point system going to work if you never write any tickets? 

I've had a ticket in the post for speeding and also a ticket on my windscreen for parking in the wrong direction.  So, yes, it does happen but should happen more.

[HHTel]

3 hours ago, Dave67 said:

Won't work. End of

I agree.  As I've already said, there's been a points system in Thailand since 2002.  It's not worked thus far so why should it work when tried again.

[Briggsy]

6 hours ago, Just Weird said:

"90% of...

70%, say...

10% of

85% of... 

8% of..."

 

100% chance that all those percentages you quoted are nonsense.

Would you place yourself on the autism spectrum?

[finnomick]

So, how do you give points to those who don't have a license ? Furthermore, with the flippant attitude of your average Thai to laws, those that do have licenses and get too many points will carry on driving regardless. I'm not knocking the points system but I'm at a loss as to how they'll ever enforce it.

[bander]

Just another step to get more bribes.

[Happyman58]

Wont happen as long as you got these cowboys called police in action here Either they need there  eyesight checked or they dont care because i see drivers breaking the law right in front of them and nothing happens Hang on they give bad drivers roses  sorry

[connda]

But, if they lose their license and are stopped, they will pay a 400 THB fine and the ticket will be a receipt that will allow them to drive unimpeded if stopped at another road-block during the day. Driving without a license means nothing in the Land of Speed. 
The point system is a step in the right direction, but only if they start tossing those driving without licenses in jail and impounding their vehicles.

Edited December 15, 2017 by connda

[Media1]

Online what data what haha... Dream on son. How's Thailand 4 travelling. Maybe Prawit can sell his watch so you can have some serious computer data training.

[Media1]

4 hours ago, HHTel said:

I've had a ticket in the post for speeding and also a ticket on my windscreen for parking in the wrong direction.  So, yes, it does happen but should happen more.

Lol 

[jaywalker]

13 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Reasonably new Vigo from Budget in Udon had cruise control.

 

Brand new Accord from Avis at Suvarnabhumi had cruise control.

I bought 2 vehicles in 2006, prior to that I never saw one. I guess the times are changing.

 

You ever use your cruise control?

[George FmplesdaCosteedback]

More words with little thought.

To implement this would take organisation and a willing and efficient police force that doesn't take bribes...

 

 

[Thaimike370]

In a month 95% of drivers will be off the road.

[Airbagwill]

Road safety is obviously flavour of the month.

Every day almost some kabob comes up with a new "solution".

The method appears to be to Google around until you find some traffic law that Thailand doesn't have. Hardly a difficult task.

 

As ever it is done with scant thought to the practicalities of implementation.

 

Remember the zig zag in Bangkok???

 

 

All this dies is yet again how utterly out of touch the authorities  are

[jaywalker]

13 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Not to mention the 6-wheel 'bus' with standing room only, 3 boy scouts sitting on the back step an another 4 hanging off the ladder and railings.

...And the kids are blocking the brake lights.

 

See it every day though.

 

Basic, human instinct/will to survive would keep most folks from blocking brake lights with their bodies, but you see it every day.

[StevieAus]

On 12/15/2017 at 7:18 AM, Happy enough said:

ahh, bloody speed cameras and now points on the licence. came here to get away from that shit ; )

With speed cameras the fine is sent to the registered owner with no provision unlike in Australia for you to nominate the driver who then receives the fine and loses the points

They probably haven’t considered that issue.

[Airbagwill]

On 12/15/2017 at 7:18 AM, Happy enough said:

ahh, bloody speed cameras and now points on the licence. came here to get away from that shit ; )

Sefl-confessed "bad driver"?

[NanLaew]

16 hours ago, aussie11950 said:

Maybe they should look at a similar system overseas, like Australia amongst others.

But I feel it will fail due to maintenance, system input and connection problems.

 

...only if they let TRUE run the network.

Edited December 16, 2017 by NanLaew

[NanLaew]

15 hours ago, HHTel said:

I agree.  As I've already said, there's been a points system in Thailand since 2002.  It's not worked thus far so why should it work when tried again.

In 2002 until maybe the past 24-months, the points system was ENTIRELY dependent on the roadside BiB doing his job properly in lieu of soliciting and/or extorting a bribe.

 

The growing network of speed/red-light linked camera's and the "ticket in the mail" will handily bypass that. The next weak link is the guy at the Land Transport office enforcing the fine payment(s) when Mr Leadfoot comes in to pay his road tax. Since that's in a computer database, it's hard to see how the clerk can milk that. Since most fines may only total 1000 baht (unless he/she is a guaranteed 12-pointer), then there's no big money for the dodgy clerk to try and divert into his pocket.

 

I am not sure if it's the coming cool weather but I feel overwhelmingly positive about Thailand introducing a points-based penalty system. Welcome to the REAL world.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, StevieAus said:

With speed cameras the fine is sent to the registered owner with no provision unlike in Australia for you to nominate the driver who then receives the fine and loses the points

They probably haven’t considered that issue.

I don't see where not having the ability to nominate the driver is any great shakes in LOS.

[anon789561]

48 minutes ago, Airbagwill said:

Sefl-confessed "bad driver"?

Yup 

[Airbagwill]

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

...only if they let TRUE run the network.

As far as I can see, they have just looked at the Aussie system.

As there is zero chance of any system working without fundamental changes in how the law works and roads are designed I is just whistling in the wind

[connda]

5 hours ago, Thaimike370 said:

In a month 95% of drivers will be off the road.

In a month 95% of drivers will be driving without a license.

[connda]

2 hours ago, StevieAus said:

With speed cameras the fine is sent to the registered owner with no provision unlike in Australia for you to nominate the driver who then receives the fine and loses the points

They probably haven’t considered that issue.

They'll probably dock the car owner for points, so in that case, if I speed then my wife will lose the license that she doesn't have, considering she doesn't drive. 

[jerojero]

Wonder what's the going price per point? Avoid points loss... Pay your fine in cash directly to the police officer. i

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[Just Weird]

19 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Would you place yourself on the autism spectrum?

Hardly.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Airbagwill said:

As far as I can see, they have just looked at the Aussie system.

As there is zero chance of any system working without fundamental changes in how the law works and roads are designed I is just whistling in the wind

When I worked in Australia, traffic tickets were handed out by cops in patrol cars and at radar check points. That was ages ago.

 

How do they hand out speeding and traffic light tickets these days?

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, jerojero said:

Wonder what's the going price per point? Avoid points loss... Pay your fine in cash directly to the police officer.

What part of 'ticket-in-the-mail' is defeating your comprehension?

[Airbagwill]

31 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

When I worked in Australia, traffic tickets were handed out by cops in patrol cars and at radar check points. That was ages ago.

 

How do they hand out speeding and traffic light tickets these days?

I haven't lived in Oz for many years too...they have wsys had a points countdown system that worked on licences that are issued by individual states. The use of radar and similar speed checks became increasingly familiar (very big increase indeed) at the turn of the century with tickets issued potally