A Bar Girl Versus a Date – Is it really clear the best option?

[Essaybloke]

For sure, if you go in with your eyes open, it's a win-win. You get lots of the perks of a relationship without the baggage. And you learn that they too are human beings with real feelings. 

[edthhd]

Although my wife was never a bar girl my attitude has always been: I don't imagine when some girl was 9 years old she said to herself "when I grow up I want to be a <deleted>" She became a BG out of necessity and if I had met one I fell in love with I would have married her once I was convinced of her honesty.

[David Walden]

18 hours ago, David Walden said:

They say the best things in life are free...but you can for them if you like.

yes you can pay for them if you like.

[malcoml]

I had a relationship with a bar girl not really understanding what they were for 6 months when I first moved to Thailand. She was so sweet and we went on many dates and had a great time.

 

I married a normal girl and now have a dysfunctional relationship but even in the early days, our dates seemed boring.

 

A few people look down at bar girls but most that I found seem to enjoy their job. I was in a bar and asked a girl in the Philippines what her job was with a bit of sarcasm and she told me GRO. I said whats that to which she told me Girl Rent Overnight and she burst into laughter. We had a good time together...

 

The question is who is better for a date? I would say a bar girl makes a better date. The reason is that as you have invested very little into the date you can really open up and just relax. Going out with a girl you may be considering a long-term relationship with you tend to be careful with what you say and spend so much time trying to impress her rather than just letting the time flow. It all gets a bit stuffy.

 

I will have a Tiger please and let's have a few games of connect 4.

[OneMoreFarang]

3 hours ago, malcoml said:

I had a relationship with a bar girl not really understanding what they were for 6 months when I first moved to Thailand. She was so sweet and we went on many dates and had a great time.

 

I married a normal girl and now have a dysfunctional relationship but even in the early days, our dates seemed boring.

 

A few people look down at bar girls but most that I found seem to enjoy their job. I was in a bar and asked a girl in the Philippines what her job was with a bit of sarcasm and she told me GRO. I said whats that to which she told me Girl Rent Overnight and she burst into laughter. We had a good time together...

 

The question is who is better for a date? I would say a bar girl makes a better date. The reason is that as you have invested very little into the date you can really open up and just relax. Going out with a girl you may be considering a long-term relationship with you tend to be careful with what you say and spend so much time trying to impress her rather than just letting the time flow. It all gets a bit stuffy.

 

I will have a Tiger please and let's have a few games of connect 4.

 

Good comment!

 

I think we all know the "good girls go to heaven, bad girls go everywhere" and I think that probably makes a big difference to their behavior. I am sure so called good girls often think twice or more often if they should do this and that (not just sex) and they think about if good girls should behave like that. "Bad girl" behave spontaneously. They do what they want without thinking much what other people might think about them - and have fun.

[Gruff]

On 12/29/2017 at 2:01 AM, sharktooth said:

Oh dear. My comments obviously touched a nerve :)

 Or maybe your comments were just un-necessary and not very thoughtful.

 

[Puwa]

Here's the crux of the matter. If you spend your time categorizing women as good and bad, and worrying who's who, you've already missed the point and lost the plot. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2017 at 3:38 AM, malcoml said:

 

 

 

 

The question is who is better for a date? I would say a bar girl makes a better date. The reason is that as you have invested very little into the date you can really open up and just relax. Going out with a girl you may be considering a long-term relationship with you tend to be careful with what you say and spend so much time trying to impress her rather than just letting the time flow. It all gets a bit stuffy.

 

 

True, but I was never interested in ''opening up" with my long term GFs. As long as she turned up in the evening ( as I was usually out exploring in the day ) they could do whatever they liked. I didn't normally take them along as most don't like going for 4 hour walks in the midday sun.

 

In the evening it was usually a restaurant with a VDO showing to have dinner, and then back to the room for some braille practice.

[thaibeachlovers]

2 hours ago, Puwa said:

Here's the crux of the matter. If you spend your time categorizing women as good and bad, and worrying who's who, you've already missed the point and lost the plot. 

The brilliant thing about BGs as GFs is that once they get stroppy or demanding, or if you made a mistake, they are gone, unlike a real GF that always involves a lot of crying and emotional breakdown.

Strangely, the ones I remember most are the ones I would like to have had quality time with, but missed out on for some reason.

I still remember one absolute honey in a Nana gogo that I spent all evening chatting to, but because I waited too long another guy stole her away. Normally I could just go back the next night for a second chance, but this one was a keeper and I never saw her again. 

Ah, memories. Sigh.

[Number 6]

Clearly best option for this lot is paid for companionship bc 90% of you are unable to attract any female let alone an attractive one.

 

You lack the ability to charm a woman into a date, make good company and build relationships.

 

The price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

Romeo's and Cassanova's legends in your own minds.

Edited January 2, 2018 by Number 6

[OneMoreFarang]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The brilliant thing about BGs as GFs is that once they get stroppy or demanding, or if you made a mistake, they are gone, unlike a real GF that always involves a lot of crying and emotional breakdown.

Strangely, the ones I remember most are the ones I would like to have had quality time with, but missed out on for some reason.

I still remember one absolute honey in a Nana gogo that I spent all evening chatting to, but because I waited too long another guy stole her away. Normally I could just go back the next night for a second chance, but this one was a keeper and I never saw her again. 

Ah, memories. Sigh.

I also remember some perfect girls. I saw them maybe an hour or a night and in that time they were perfect.  So I will remember them as perfect. But somehow I am pretty sure if I would have seen them for days or weeks of months many of them would not be perfect anymore. I think that is the big problem with women in general and especially with bar girls. If they want to they can be nice, sexy, not demanding, fun, just perfect. Some can play that role for an hour or two, others for days. But most of the time that changes over time and not to the better. And then we all remember this wonderful girl we met and how she behaved in that first hour...

[theguyfromanotherforum]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

The brilliant thing about BGs as GFs is that once they get stroppy or demanding, or if you made a mistake, they are gone, unlike a real GF that always involves a lot of crying and emotional breakdown.

Strangely, the ones I remember most are the ones I would like to have had quality time with, but missed out on for some reason.

I still remember one absolute honey in a Nana gogo that I spent all evening chatting to, but because I waited too long another guy stole her away. Normally I could just go back the next night for a second chance, but this one was a keeper and I never saw her again. 

Ah, memories. Sigh.

 

Yep. It was love at first sight, and you both hit it off. The convo got going on, you were throwing some great funny lines, but that pesky 1000 baht note got in the way.

 

Marriage material indeed.

[OneMoreFarang]

30 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

Clearly best option for this lot is paid for companionship bc 90% of you are unable to attract any female let alone an attractive one.

 

You lack the ability to charm a woman into a date, make good company and build relationships.

 

The price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

Romeo's and Cassanova's legends in your own minds.

What do you expect at the end of a date? Maybe a kiss on the cheek and "thank you for the dinner and nice evening"? Or hot sex? Some of us want the kiss and are maybe looking for a romantic long term relationship. And others just want to have fun for a night. And maybe the same guys want one time this and another time that. Is one better than the other? I think it's just different.

[sanemax]

12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Strangely, the ones I remember most are the ones I would like to have had quality time with, but missed out on for some reason.

I still remember one absolute honey in a Nana gogo that I spent all evening chatting to, but because I waited too long another guy stole her away. Normally I could just go back the next night for a second chance, but this one was a keeper and I never saw her again. 

Ah, memories. Sigh.

You must realise that bargirls are quite the same as taking crack-cocaine .

Its an instant paid for high, that doesnt last long , and after the come down, you need another hit to get that high again .

    Bargirls, like crack-cocaine are not a long term sustainable high , they are short term hits , which have nothing to do with real life genuine highs

[sanemax]

15 hours ago, Puwa said:

Here's the crux of the matter. If you spend your time categorizing women as good and bad, and worrying who's who, you've already missed the point and lost the plot. 

Try telling that to the guys who didnt categorize about whether their woman was good or bad and then got into a long term relationship with a bad woman and lost everything

[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Try telling that to the guys who didnt categorize about whether their woman was good or bad and then got into a long term relationship with a bad woman and lost everything

Are there really good or bad women? Or just compatible and incompatible women for each individual. I think most of us know a woman who we would never like or trust. But it seems for other guys that woman is exactly what they want. And then there are of course the other guys who think "our" wife or gf is bad - but we think she is great the way she is...

[Essaybloke]

On 02/01/2018 at 8:28 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I also remember some perfect girls. I saw them maybe an hour or a night and in that time they were perfect.  So I will remember them as perfect. But somehow I am pretty sure if I would have seen them for days or weeks of months many of them would not be perfect anymore. I think that is the big problem with women in general and especially with bar girls. If they want to they can be nice, sexy, not demanding, fun, just perfect. Some can play that role for an hour or two, others for days. But most of the time that changes over time and not to the better. And then we all remember this wonderful girl we met and how she behaved in that first hour...

Words of wisdom if ever there were.....

 

[nausea]

Guy or gal there's always an agenda, find out the agenda, if it's the same as yours you're good to go.

[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, nausea said:

Guy or gal there's always an agenda, find out the agenda, if it's the same as yours you're good to go.

That is what I thought long time ago. And then I had a girlfriend who was sexy and crazy and I tried to figure her out. At the end I asked her what logic was behind her behavior. She looked at me somehow surprised and asked me: "Why do you think there is any logic?" That was a long time ago but I still remember it. And I learned from it that there is just no point of trying to find a logic if there is none. That makes life a lot easier - especially in Thailand.

[bangkoken]

On 1/3/2018 at 9:29 AM, Essaybloke said:

Words of wisdom if ever there were.....

 

So, you want the perfect girl. Just like all us perfect  men. "Dreaming, I'm always dreaming, hoping, one day I'll find someone .........."  Welcome to the club.

[eldragon]

Bar girls are fun bc they’re more accustomed to western culture and comfortable being around foreigners. But they’re trashy and usually carry a disease, so you can’t take them back home or F them without wearing a hat. If you can meet a Thai girl that’s never (or rarely) sold herself, speaks English fairly well, and is truly comfortable around foreigners, then you’ve got something worth hanging onto.


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[OneMoreFarang]

1 hour ago, eldragon said:

Bar girls are fun bc they’re more accustomed to western culture and comfortable being around foreigners. But they’re trashy and usually carry a disease, so you can’t take them back home or F them without wearing a hat. If you can meet a Thai girl that’s never (or rarely) sold herself, speaks English fairly well, and is truly comfortable around foreigners, then you’ve got something worth hanging onto.


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Where did you get the idea from that they "usually carry a disease"?

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 7:28 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

I also remember some perfect girls. I saw them maybe an hour or a night and in that time they were perfect.  So I will remember them as perfect. But somehow I am pretty sure if I would have seen them for days or weeks of months many of them would not be perfect anymore. I think that is the big problem with women in general and especially with bar girls. If they want to they can be nice, sexy, not demanding, fun, just perfect. Some can play that role for an hour or two, others for days. But most of the time that changes over time and not to the better. And then we all remember this wonderful girl we met and how she behaved in that first hour...

Hmmmm. Does 8 years count? I think I did get to know her quite well in that time. Certainly well enough not to marry her, but when she was nice she really was sugar and spice. I will always remember her for the good times we had.

BTW it only ended when she married someone.

I also got to know some real crackers, that I'd be happy to marry if I knew them now, but at the time I wasn't ready to be tied down as I was having too good a time.

[thaibeachlovers]

11 hours ago, bangkoken said:

So, you want the perfect girl. Just like all us perfect  men. "Dreaming, I'm always dreaming, hoping, one day I'll find someone .........."  Welcome to the club.

LOL. I once spent a month on Railay beach with a "perfect girl". Had a body to die for and didn't bitch or complain or ask for money. Absolutely amazing at that too.

Unfortunately I was having too good time as a "free man" and let her go. By the time I realised what I'd lost she was gone and I never saw her again.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 10:12 AM, OneMoreFarang said:

Are there really good or bad women? Or just compatible and incompatible women for each individual. I think most of us know a woman who we would never like or trust. But it seems for other guys that woman is exactly what they want. And then there are of course the other guys who think "our" wife or gf is bad - but we think she is great the way she is...

Unfortunately, a good woman can go bad. Happened to me.

By the time we split, her personality was nothing like the one I married.

Such is life.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎1‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 6:59 AM, Number 6 said:

Clearly best option for this lot is paid for companionship bc 90% of you are unable to attract any female let alone an attractive one.

 

You lack the ability to charm a woman into a date, make good company and build relationships.

 

The price of everything and the value of nothing.

 

Romeo's and Cassanova's legends in your own minds.

Having tried both sorts, I really can't be bothered with the BS that I'd have to put up with, with a relationship.

I think I'm far better off not even trying.

[eldragon]

Where did you get the idea from that they "usually carry a disease"?

Bc every time I’ve gotten into one unprotected I’ve felt a burn and was at the doctor’s office within a week.


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[eldragon]

LOL. I once spent a month on Railay beach with a "perfect girl". Had a body to die for and didn't bitch or complain or ask for money. Absolutely amazing at that too.
Unfortunately I was having too good time as a "free man" and let her go. By the time I realised what I'd lost she was gone and I never saw her again.
 

We’ve all been there, mate.


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[OneMoreFarang]

7 hours ago, eldragon said:

Bc every time I’ve gotten into one unprotected I’ve felt a burn and was at the doctor’s office within a week.

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First you write: "But they’re trashy and usually carry a disease" and now you write about "every time I’ve gotten into one unprotected".

So your telling us you have regular unprotected sex with women who you think usually carry a disease. You seem to be a smart cookie...

[theguyfromanotherforum]

Sick like a pig since yesterday.

 

Wife took a day off work, brought company laptop home and made sure I was plenty liquefied so I don't crack my head like it happened a few months back. She also gave me my new health insurance card courtesy of her workplace and lets me use her own house like a hotel for the past 4 years.

 

Would a bargirl ever do this for me?