The manic Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Air Smiles said: Check this from 1969 ...as well as page's demonic guitar the drumming is on another level. This was the year I saw them along with the who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 13 minutes ago, Air Smiles said: Check this from 1969 ...as well as page's demonic guitar the drumming is on another level. I thought to be fair, I should listen to it, and have to say I quite liked the instrumentals, but unfortunately the vocals did it in for me. So, that won't be on my play list, but thanks anyway. However, like most of the western world I am partial to "Stairway to Heaven", though I wouldn't put it on special. Now, back to Connie Francis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 39 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Not entirely true. I love trance, and other types of "modern" music. I just don't consider them "the best". I can't name a single "supergroup" that started after 2000. BTW, I love Viennese waltzes and some classical music too, along with Irish rebel songs and ballads. The trouble with having too wide a taste in music is that it's hard to listen to all of it. At the moment I've got Connie Francis on. I hear you on that, and especially on not having enough time to listen to all the great music that’s out there. (And kudos for having an appreciation for trance!) On “supergroups" or what's "the best," I hesitate; it’s so subjective. Talking exclusively about “anglophone rock music” for lack of a better term, it’s hard to top something like “Exile on Main Street,” but if I want to listen to that, I’ll put on the Rolling Stones. Bands that came later like the Replacements (1980s) or Sonic Youth (1990s), or in this century acts like PJ Harvey and Arcade Fire, have been just as inventive and vital and reflective of their times. The past several months I’ve listened a lot to Parquet Courts and the Walkmen, fresh and genuine and very talented. I don’t know if Parquet Courts will ever be called a “supergroup,” but they sure sound good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, stevenl said: Some really good artists there, but IMO some are far from world changing. Abba, Grateful Dead, Zappa, Jimmy Cliff, all mentioned earlier, would belong to that category IMO. Gad, I missed Abba. I don't know how I did that. Always loved them. I only included groups/ musicians that still get air time, and Grateful Dead, Zappa, Jimmy Cliff don't get played on golden oldies channels. In the end, it's always going to be subjective, but I had to restrict it too those I considered REALLY big, and universally loved. That cuts out a lot of groups that had a loyal, but niche market. Punk was indeed a world changing music style, but IMO not universally loved nor the "best". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Cory1848 said: There’s tons of great music being made today by people in their twenties and thirties; you just have to open your ears to it. And Would you mind providing some names? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: I hear you on that, and especially on not having enough time to listen to all the great music that’s out there. (And kudos for having an appreciation for trance!) On “supergroups" or what's "the best," I hesitate; it’s so subjective. Talking exclusively about “anglophone rock music” for lack of a better term, it’s hard to top something like “Exile on Main Street,” but if I want to listen to that, I’ll put on the Rolling Stones. Bands that came later like the Replacements (1980s) or Sonic Youth (1990s), or in this century acts like PJ Harvey and Arcade Fire, have been just as inventive and vital and reflective of their times. The past several months I’ve listened a lot to Parquet Courts and the Walkmen, fresh and genuine and very talented. I don’t know if Parquet Courts will ever be called a “supergroup,” but they sure sound good to me! I appreciate what you say, but I can't consider groups I never even heard of. Obviously I'm only talking about western music, though I'm a big fan of certain types of Thai music. In LOS, obviously, they don't have western style "golden oldies" music channels, but thanks to U Tube I can listen to different music from that on my computer play list. I'll check out your suggestions, thanks. I discover most music I like on movies now, and some great songs on soundtracks. One of my "new" favourites is "Fine on the outside" by Priscilla Ahn, and I'd never have discovered it if I hadn't heard it in a movie. I really like her music, but it's never going to change the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonykap Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, The manic said: Geatful Dead? Zappa? A great list! The only one I would take out is Elvis. A nice voice and a pretty face doesn't equate to music talent in my books. As for me, the music died on 9/12/1980. It's all been "muzak" since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 28/12/2017 at 11:44 AM, Gruff said: Karen Capenter had the voice of an angel as well. But surely the major influences in the development of music in the last century must have been the likes of Beatles Led Zepp Pink Floyd etc truly talented and inventive as well. In that era though there were developments in musical recording such as stereo and even quad that encouraged the likes of Tubular Bells or Dark Side of the Moon. Then later sound techniques that allowed for ethereal music and Techno music. I wonder if there is anywhere left to go with 'inventive and unique music'. The Glitter Band had the "voice of an angel". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, ebonykap said: A great list! The only one I would take out is Elvis. A nice voice and a pretty face doesn't equate to music talent in my books. As for me, the music died on 9/12/1980. It's all been "muzak" since then. Seriously? You need to read up if you don't know what Elvis did. He probably changed music more than anyone else on my list. Perhaps you prefer that we are still listening to Bing Crosby and Frank Sinatra though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The Glitter Band had the "voice of an angel".My bad, Face of an angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 48 minutes ago, Truth2W said: The best ? About a ton we can cite here easily, but the music died in 1978. More or less, yes. Yet, some groups such as Aerosmith or Guns and Roses, for example, produced great things long after that... 1978 marked the advent of disco and punk "music", acting as the first line of demolishers. Of course, as the OP stated, commercialism did and is still doing its devastating part, giving preference to look over talent, and to "kleenex artists" over long term careers. It is likely that most of the 60s and 70s bands would never get the chance to record today...many of them having reached their peak after quite a few misses or near misses that would not be tolerated today where everything is about money, and only money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 New Years Day I played some Floyd, Purple and Etheridge at full volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) the 80's where also so much fun. listened to Blondie Parallel Lines the other night. what happened to the music. the corporations took over and created a sound for profit formula, simply put. the cost of touring has sky rocketed. production cost soared, Woodstock also changed the game, after which promoters charged extravagant prices, obliged to include two or three acts when signing the headliner. peer to peer file sharing also played a role siphoning profits from the record companies. rap was the last nail in the coffin. can't stand to watch the Grammies anymore or read Stone. most of the great writers are gone like Hunter S. Thompson. who writes like him today? God would he have fun with Trump. Rolling Stone has also sold out. Jann had a great rag back in the day. sad sad sad as Keith Richards would say. listen to Classical mostly and attend the Symphony now. the Greats will endure in both genres Edited January 2, 2018 by malibukid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarenBravo Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 One word..........Adele. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Depends on whether you're an old git (like me) or a young bloke. There is no accounting for taste. My father liked some music that I like as well. Expecting a 22 year old to like the same music as a man my age (67) is complete insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Can anyone name a popular band that started post 2000? Can't think of one myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jools Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, alanrchase said: Can anyone name a popular band that started post 2000? Can't think of one myself. Maroon 5 is a great band. I don't know how long they've been around, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth2W Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Why it is so? In 60, 70, you can find new bands, new , mostly really perfect songs, a new rock band on every corner. Later it is declined and nowadays a good song is like white raven. I do believe, that the really talented musicians are still around and new ones come up as it was "in my time". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Brunolem said: 1978 marked the advent of disco and punk "music", acting as the first line of demolishers. I agree, but in a totally different way. After Woodstock flamed out at Altamont and devolved into the limpid southern California sound of the early 1970s, punk and disco (and the other genre that you didn’t mention that developed at that time, hip-hop), gave rock music exactly what it needed: a swift kick in the butt. Your word “demolished” is accurate, but that’s a good thing, isn’t it? Isn’t that sort of what rock and roll is all about? Going back to Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry and Elvis sneaking into juke joints to listen to race music? Edited January 2, 2018 by Cory1848 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnapat Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 29/12/2017 at 5:58 PM, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. Nat King Cole, Johnny Mathis, Èngelbert Humperdinck, Matt Monro to add a few more great vocalists to your list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Maroon 5 is a great band. I don't know how long they've been around, though. Maroon 5 is more about the lead singer being a pretty boy than their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: I agree, but in a totally different way. After Woodstock flamed out at Altamont and devolved into the limpid southern California sound of the early 1970s, punk and disco (and the other genre that you didn’t mention that developed at that time, hip-hop), gave rock music exactly what it needed: a swift kick in the butt. To me, rap, hip hop and DJs' crap are to music what chewing gum is to fine cooking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jools said: Depends on whether you're an old git (like me) or a young bloke. There is no accounting for taste. My father liked some music that I like as well. Expecting a 22 year old to like the same music as a man my age (67) is complete insanity. good music is good music and will past the test of time. i doubt if any of current drek will be around a hundred years from now. how can you compare for instance the genius of Joni Mitchell, or Natalie Merchant who by the way wrote some of here best music in the 90's to Taylor Swift? i am your age and loved the what my father loved i.e. Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Cole Porter, Gershwin. these guy's where giants and still are. you have to understand that most of today's generation have as serious ADD problem. they simply know nothing about music history nor do they care, but some do. just hoping that a spark will survive the Dark Ages. this has happened throughout history. just too much conformity with today's lot which will always impede creative growth. go to a concert today and all the kids are dancing the same dance. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Jools said: Depends on whether you're an old git (like me) or a young bloke. There is no accounting for taste. My father liked some music that I like as well. Expecting a 22 year old to like the same music as a man my age (67) is complete insanity. good music is good music and will past the test of time. i doubt if any of the current drek will be around a hundred years from now. how can you compare for instance the genius of Joni Mitchell, or Natalie Merchant who by the way wrote some of here best music in the 90's to Taylor Swift? i am your age and loved the what my father loved i.e. Duke Ellington, Benny Goodman, Cole Porter, Gershwin. these guy's where giants and still are. you have to understand that most of today's generation have as serious ADD problem. they simply know nothing about music history nor do they care, but some do. just hoping that a spark will survive the Dark Ages. this has happened throughout history. just too much conformity with today's lot which will always impede creative growth. go to a concert today and all the kids are dancing the same dance. lol Edited January 2, 2018 by malibukid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanrchase Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 To me, rap, hip hop and DJs' crap are to music what chewing gum is to fine cooking!Bruce Willis in the last boy scout "If you really want to piss me off play some rap music". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Brunolem said: To me, rap, hip hop and DJs' crap are to music what chewing gum is to fine cooking! It's entirely a matter of personal taste, not the quality of the product! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 well, I was learning dancing with the songs of Marlene Dietrich. I will never forget the moment, when I met her in "Adlon" in Berlin 1936. I was a lad of 15 then and she kissed me on my cheeks because I was so good looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Check this from 1969 ...as well as page's demonic guitar the drumming is on another level. Loved the live version on “ The song remains the same “But if you’re missing Zep then check out these guys: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NonthaburiBear Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 36 minutes ago, alanrchase said: Can anyone name a popular band that started post 2000? Can't think of one myself. Coldplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I don't classify anything I can't dance to as "music". Eminem may be popular with some people, but not me. uhh?? That was a play off M&M... plain or peanut... get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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