Mattd Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, jayboy said: For the UK authorities and most other people it isn't even clear she has committed a crime at all. Lets face it, if all 'democratic' countries were to lock up all politicians that were found to be negligent on policies, then all of the prisons would certainly be full of them! There is absolutely no way that the UK will extradite any elected politician, especially an ex. PM, that was ousted by the very same military junta that request it, that will be seen as political persecution. The UK would be well within their rights to question the General on why they are so eager to extradite Yingluck, whilst not as keen to locate and extradite the energy drink Grandson, priorities seem a bit wrong. In reality they do not want her back here, in fact it is the last thing they want, the lies they spin have to get bigger each and every time they get caught out, I bet they despise social media, it keeps on biting them daily! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, James HKT said: The UK government will probably take the view that Yingluck was a democratically elected leader who was ousted in a military coup and any request for ex-tradition by those same unelected military leaders would be refused to protect the principal of democracy. The fact is she was not ousted by the coup. She had already been 'sacked' before the coup. Quote Thailand's Constitutional Court has dismissed caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra from office, ruling that she is guilty of violating the country's constitution for reassigning a senior security official in 2011. However, it doesn't alter her application for asylum which I'm sure will be successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Serviceman78 said: Come on now, if they REALLY wanted her back, run a black bag operation. Drug her, put a hood over her head, fly her covertly (she doesn't have to know who picked her up) and drop her off in front of a Thai prison lol. Problem solved! The Vietnamese did this recently in Germany. Quite shocking or impressive or both, depending on how you view these things. The Thais would never do this, even if they wanted to which they clearly don't in this case. Too much effort involved. Too difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 It is better for the Government to put this to bed now instead of at or near election time. "We tried, we were stymied by pesky foreigners, now move on with our election campaign." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chongalulu Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Hayduke said: More smoke and mirrors from your favorite Junta. Her ‘flight’ was a deal, plain and simple…they get her out of the country and she gets to keep the money. Everybody wins. The last thing Uncle wants is either of the Shins back in Thailand. If she or her brother actually showed up at Suvarnabhumi the government would sh*t. But Uncle needs to pound his desk to maintain the show It’s true that it’s just a show. The issue is that it’s a transparent one which is of a standard only credible to unsophisticated,poorly educated and unaware Thais,which is workable for the majority of the population. But the real dummies are it’s instigators who simply cannot grasp that in the current environment of social media and the international news spotlight that they cannot get away with this nonsense in that arena and stunts like this and the cardboard cutout are simply and rightfully portraying them as ignorant buffoons and a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britishrepublican Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 She's a good looking woman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Bet Boris has already given her one..............'your safety is guaranteed my dear. Just leave it to me'................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Mission impossible but the little soldier will be trying getting more angry and frustrated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CantSpell Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Extradition is not easy... And we are very busy... With top priorities... Like counting the watches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idman Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If Thailand isn't at top of list for most inept country in S.E. Asia it for sure is in top three. This whole Yingluck saga has become another Thai soap opera. Of course The Powers That Be are too stupid to know that and this Loss of Face mentality means they ill never admi to this stupidity. Guys, no one cares about Yingluck, out of sight, out of mind. You keep beating this dead horse, she ain't coming back, you ain't serious about bringing her back because then she becomes a lightning rod for her political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Indeed not easy and will never happen. Why old man because you are a coup leader that committed treason. You also changed laws to suit yourself. You are a funny little man none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, James HKT said: Really? Who sacked her ? Must have missed that. Just 'google' 'Yingluk removed from office'. There are tons of reports both here and in the west. The constitutional court ordered her removed Quote After mass protests against her government in late 2013, she asked for a dissolution of parliament on 9 December 2013, triggering a snap election, but continued to act as caretaker prime minister. On 7 May 2014, the Constitutional Court of Thailand removed Yingluck Shinawatra from the office of caretaker prime minister and defence minister following months of political crisis. The court found her guilty of charges of abuse of power over the removal of national security chief Thawil Pliensri in 2011. The coup followed after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpdp Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 5555+ As if he didn't know from the first day who is the bad guy and who stole power. LUCKILY no civilized country will send a legitimate prime minister back to where she has been kicked by armed force ! Wish her the best ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: They are so full of it! "Cat and mouse" game? I read in both English papers that she was in the UK several months ago. There was no "cat and mouse" game. The reason that the government do not request the extradition of Yingluck (or Thaksin) is that they were democratically leaders of |Thailand who were supplanted by the military via coup. Were the Junta to request extradition, it would be turned down officially because both would claim that they were put on trial by the military who supplanted them in a coup. Or put another way... ...the international community would brand Thailand's Justice system as unfair, unreliable and untrustworthy. It would be a humiliation. And yet neither Yingluck nor Thaksin were legally in office when a coup took place. Yingluck had been removed by a court from caretaker PM prior to the coup that removed the PTP caretaker government. Thaksin has resigned the position of caretaker PM and another was appointed. He changed his mind and took the role back on no authority but his own. He was illegally misrepresenting himself as the PM of Thailand when the coup occurred. That just adds to the cat and mouse games being played perhaps. But the international community probably know just how untrustworthy any politicians here are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The coup followed after that.It did, it actually occurred whilst an entirely constitutional election was underway, which would have allowed the Thai people to decide if they wanted to return her to office or replace her. A coup which was arguably a more egregious act than instigating her removal in the first place. Something that will not be overlooked when/should asylum or extradition be considered.Sent from my KENNY using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Face Rip Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Move along nothing to see here This latest episode is just another example of elites squabbling over who gets the carcass while ordinary Thais get the leftovers.. how will ordinary Thais benefit from this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 The longest and most arduous journey can begin with just one step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Odysseus123 said: If all the smug talking heads were replaced by cardboard cutouts would you,instinctively, be able to spot the difference? Well.... I was actually going to point out the coincidence between yesterday’s “talk to mini me” article, and the timing of today’s admittance of some truths and lies as previously offered by maxi me so yes... spotting the difference is on the cards ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon789561 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 impossible is the word i think he was looking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Megasin1 said: The longest and most arduous journey can begin with just one step. oh stop with that pc blatter...............just stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikiea Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, steve187 said: how could that be yikes .....really ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megasin1 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 minutes ago, mikiea said: oh stop with that pc blatter...............just stop LOL...perhaps I forgot to trowel on enough sarcasm .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 A post in violation of this forum rule has been removed: 11) You will not post slurs, degrading or overly negative comments directed towards Thailand, specific locations, Thai institutions such as the judicial or law enforcement system, Thai culture, Thai people or any other group on the basis of race, nationality, religion, gender or sexual orientation. A post containing offensive comments has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 8 hours ago, candide said: So Boris Johnson told Don in September that she was in London, but the PM stated on September 27th that she was in Dubai! https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-politics-yingluck/thai-junta-leader-says-fugitive-former-pm-yingluck-is-in-dubai-idUSKCN1C30A3 They don't know where she is just like they didn't when Thaksin went on the run. It's all bullsh*t as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 6 hours ago, Serviceman78 said: Come on now, if they REALLY wanted her back, run a black bag operation. Drug her, put a hood over her head, fly her covertly (she doesn't have to know who picked her up) and drop her off in front of a Thai prison lol. Problem solved! Well, problem solved? Well then, they would have to contend with mass demonstrations, convoys of pick ups converging on the prison in which she is held, the army having to be deployed on a scale which would mean not just using the "reliable" units which they keep in Bangkok, but also the ramshackle conscript formations, who would probably break up and go home when any pressure was applied (like "At your Mum, Dad and cousins 50 metres to your front, 5 rounds rapid, in your own time, go on!") Then of course the reaction from the country from which they lifted her, targeted sanctions against the people behind the regime (not difficult to work out who to put the squeeze on), a sharp drop in international tourists - if you think martial law makes it hard to get travel insurance wait until your destination is the target for international sanctions. The immediate "problem" may be solved but oh dear, a very large can of worms... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 9 hours ago, ezzra said: Thailand has abysmal records of extraditing people back, so why this should be any different? I'm sure that there're plenty of loyalist in the police and government that will hinder and stymied any efforts to bring her back and I'm not entirely sure that the PM himself want such a hot potato on his hand should she brought back... Hot potato???? She's a Hot Cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 These bunch of clowns just do not feel ashamed of what they are doing and just keep embarrassing the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, HHTel said: Just 'google' 'Yingluk removed from office'. There are tons of reports both here and in the west. The constitutional court ordered her removed The coup followed after that. Technically, you are right. However, UK has an embassy in Thailand which is quite able to decrypt the various events that happened during this period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Megasin1 said: The longest and most arduous journey can begin with just one step. And a flat tire and broken fan belt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphMichaels Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Lilly?? Lilly!! Smells like wictory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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