can i just leave?

[catman20]

On 2/27/2018 at 12:28 PM, Apiwan2 said:

You're off your rocker.

Just walk away now and take your money with you
If your not planning on marrying soon don't worry about it

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i agree with this man,

it serves her right for being a greedy unreasonable women. save your money you may need it at a later date.

 let this be a lesson to all the farang that find it compulsory to marry. 

[catman20]

14 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

Really?  Glad I am not American lol.

 

 

im glad i am not married 

[colinneil]

2 hours ago, catman20 said:

im glad i am not married 

 

2 hours ago, catman20 said:

im glad i am not married 

So is the woman/women who had lucky escapes.

[thailand49]

Maybe a minority?  but for me to answer I need a bit more please?  How long you been with the lady?  and are there any kids involved?  How long have you lived in Thailand or are you just a part-timer?  Last, what is causing you to divorce?

[Lacessit]

33 minutes ago, thailand49 said:

Maybe a minority?  but for me to answer I need a bit more please?  How long you been with the lady?  and are there any kids involved?  How long have you lived in Thailand or are you just a part-timer?  Last, what is causing you to divorce?

The OP did say married for 1.5 years.

[Russell17au]

32 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

The OP did say married for 1.5 years.

The OP did say married for 1.5 years but the question was "how long have they been together" I was living full time with my now wife for 5 years before we married

[Russell17au]

On 28/02/2018 at 12:08 AM, jak2002003 said:

If you are not registered as married in your own country then no problem.. Just leave.

 

If you want to come back here and marry another Thai woman in the future  then there will be a problem.

 

I am gay, and have married a guy in the UK  Been together 20 odd years. Come over here and its not even legally recognised, so I can go and marry a Thai women.  I can have a husband and a wife!  

 

This, and all the horror stories about nasty divorces and gold diggers make me realise that marriage is very stupid and unnecessary.  If 2 people love each other and want to be together then they can.... they don't need the legal marriage nonsense.  

 

All registered marriages in Thailand are automatically recognised as legally registered marriage in all countries of the world you cannot re-register them in another country. The reason your marriage is not recognised is that there are very few countries that recognise homosexual marriages and that includes up until recently countries like Australia. If you believe your last paragraph then why did you marry you current partner?

[Russell17au]

There are a lot of things for you to think about before you decide on whether to try and get a consensual divorce or to pack up and run away to your home country.

As one of the posters said if you run away then do not let her know you are going because she could make a false claim that would have you stopped and arrested. There is another part of this action that you must also think about and that is even after you return to your home country with out he knowing, she can still make any type of claim against you which could involve an arrest warrant being issued and depending on the claim she makes could even involve an extradition application and an arrest warrant being issued in your home country. Remember that she can make any claim she wants and she does not have to prove anything but you have to prove that her claim is false and to do that she would have you back in Thailand facing a Thai court. My advice would be to try and negotiate a consensual divorce and get it all over with. The fee for a consensual divorce is 20baht at any Amphoe office.

Also what assets including money have you accumulated during the time you were together because it is only those assets that are divided not anything that you had previously, but it also comes into the debt as well, only the debt that is accumulated during the time you were together is taken into account, so be careful if you do not get the consensual divorce then she can rack up a lot of debt and have it attributed through the divorce for which you will be responsible for half of it.

Remember this old saying "there is nothing more dangerous than a woman scorned"

Good luck with whatever you decide

[thailand49]

3 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The OP did say married for 1.5 years.

Yes I saw that but after his statement " don't want to make stage payment "  my assumption the 3 million was to be paid out in 1.5 years? 

Although in Thailand, I agree how long has he been with his wife whether marry or not is important.Aside from " Legal " I have an answer for him but unless he provides much more than a one sided post titling the direction to favor him I will just wait.

Edited March 10, 2018 by thailand49

[MyFriend You]

On 2/27/2018 at 7:46 PM, swissie said:

Is your marriage registered in Thailand and in your home country?
Are you sure you will not er-enter Thailand until a divorce has taken place?
Any kids involved?

You "disappearing", the lady is likely to file for an absentee divorce on the grounds of "abandonment" on your part.(Minimum waiting period 1 year after "abandonment", as I recall). Especially if she has found a new "Love of her life". If this scenario should unfold=good for you.
You could actually walk away, take your money and leave her with a half built house as far as compensation is concerned.
Could also send out a strong signal to other potential "gold-diggers" (some schemes don't always work out a 100%).
Of course you realise, if you should re-marry in your home-country before the divorce is finalized in Thailand, legally you would be committing the crime of bigamy. Uhhh!
Cheers.
PS: Looking at the situation (including your possible remedy) it was not a good idea to involve (Thai)-Lawyers. To them you are just a bad Farang, wanting to leave a good Thai Lady "high and dry". Would not be surprised, if the wife now already knows of your plans, while at the same time your lawyers will be charging you hefty legal fees, pretending to have "your best interest at heart". 

Spot On......as long as he hasn't registered his marraige in his home country or with the country Embassy in Thailand, and doesn't darken Thailands door ever again he has nothing to worry about. 

 

I have been divorced twice in Thailand, both amicble, no alimony but I had bought her a nice pice of land for Tapioca farming, she was my friend until she moved o Germany with her new Husband.

[Elkski]

I guess marriage isn't a good idea. I learn that a marriage in Thailand is valid in USA without registration. Or you can't register.  

But there are just amphor weddings and official weddings in Thailand. I thought there is a legal difference? 

 

My only comment is why is OP ok to pay 2 million but not 3?   I understand some promise about building a house may have been made.  

Even if a Thai person makes 25 k/ month that's over 3 years  4 mo to make a million 3 Mill is10 years.  Think about this before you further contaminate the minds of Thai people.  No wonder they think farang are stupid rich men. 

What would a Thai husband do?  Even if kids?

[Rhys]

Consider all factors, do what is best for you... and move on..

[cornishcarlos]

18 hours ago, thailand49 said:

Yes I saw that but after his statement " don't want to make stage payment "  my assumption the 3 million was to be paid out in 1.5 years? 

 

The OP is talking about stage payments for the completion of the house...

 

 

[cornishcarlos]

No more posts from the OP !!

I guess his wife found out he was planning to do a runner, oooops.... :)

Should have just kept his mouth shut and legged it or maybe it was just a troll post ??

[Soneva]

No more posts from the OP !!
I guess his wife found out he was planning to do a runner, oooops.... :)
Should have just kept his mouth shut and legged it or maybe it was just a troll post ??

Or, we haven’t heard back because he took the advice and is now on the run...


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[Russell17au]

13 hours ago, Elkski said:

I guess marriage isn't a good idea. I learn that a marriage in Thailand is valid in USA without registration. Or you can't register.  

But there are just amphor weddings and official weddings in Thailand. I thought there is a legal difference? 

 

My only comment is why is OP ok to pay 2 million but not 3?   I understand some promise about building a house may have been made.  

Even if a Thai person makes 25 k/ month that's over 3 years  4 mo to make a million 3 Mill is10 years.  Think about this before you further contaminate the minds of Thai people.  No wonder they think farang are stupid rich men. 

What would a Thai husband do?  Even if kids?

An Amphoe wedding is an officially registered wedding that is a legal wedding that is recognized in every country.

What I think you are trying to talk about is the Buddha village wedding which is officiated by the village monks and the village headman. That is not a legally registered marriage and it is only recognized in Thailand, but even in Thailand now they are going to the local Amphoe office and registering the Buddha village marriages.

[Jip99]

Spot on.

 

the clue is invariably having the certificate of marriage from the district office.

[ronaldo0]

Im guessing if you run off and don't pay her then she will be left liable with all the debt for the house and unless she knows some people with money she will be ruined financially for life trying to settle the payments. Or will the company just take the land etc ?

I got married 8 years ago in local amphur office , took about 20 mins just signing the paper etc.I didn't register my marriage in UK and im 100 % sure if I went and looked at UK records there would be zero record of my marriage here. Registering it required bit of paperwork etc and had to be done by myself in UK if I wanted to register it.

[jackdd]

Somebody here does seriously expect that the countries exchange information about marriages?

I'm quite sure, as long as you don't marry in your home country, and never register any marriage there you can marry at least one woman in every other country, because your home country will always give you a paper that you are not married.

[thailand49]

9 hours ago, Soneva said:

 

Or, we haven’t heard back because he took the advice and is now on the run...


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That is a good one!  I was going to post to the moderator to remove his post since one, he hasn't responded, two because to be consistent with another posting removed by another Moderator he is asking for advice to do something illegal since majority of the response have been what is legal?

[jimn]

6 hours ago, ronaldo0 said:

Im guessing if you run off and don't pay her then she will be left liable with all the debt for the house and unless she knows some people with money she will be ruined financially for life trying to settle the payments. Or will the company just take the land etc ?

I got married 8 years ago in local amphur office , took about 20 mins just signing the paper etc.I didn't register my marriage in UK and im 100 % sure if I went and looked at UK records there would be zero record of my marriage here. Registering it required bit of paperwork etc and had to be done by myself in UK if I wanted to register it.

You cannot now register an overseas marriage in the UK. However if needed you can produce the overseas marriage certificate and it will be recognised in the UK, for example for my Thai wife to claim a portion of my company pension after I die

[bwpage3]

On 3/9/2018 at 1:40 AM, Thanyaburi Mac said:

"If you are not registered as married in your own country then no problem.."

 

Wrong!   Married is married, married in Thailand, and you're married in the U.S. at least.  No U.S. "registration" necessary, or even possible.

 

Mac

Sorry but this is not 100% true.

 

You have to define married in Thailand.

 

Did you only have a ceremony or did you file/register your marriage with the local Amphur office?

[expatsailer]

Bro, just hop on the next plane out of Thailand...... and then go to the Philippines.

[thaibeachlovers]

The answer has been given many times already on here, so I'm just agreeing that the OP should leave.

Take the money and run. Leave her with nothing for being a horrible person. If she'd been reasonable she'd have been well taken care of. Serve her right.

If you feel bad, give her a couple hundred thousand to get her through till she can get a job.

Get out of the country though, as if she finds where you are, it could be bad for you.

Cut all communications, and don't let her know where you are.

 

Just don't lie to the bureaucracy in your own country though, but don't tell them anything that you don't have to. If they ask, you just decided to live apart. Last thing you want is some busybody bureaucrat poking around in your affairs.

 

The OP has my sympathy. I too am living in the wreckage of my life after a woman and her evil family did me bad.

 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 4:31 PM, thailand49 said:

That is a good one!  I was going to post to the moderator to remove his post since one, he hasn't responded, two because to be consistent with another posting removed by another Moderator he is asking for advice to do something illegal since majority of the response have been what is legal?

555555555

If not posting after the first was a removable offence, there would be significantly fewer posts on TVF.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎3‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 3:55 PM, jackdd said:

Somebody here does seriously expect that the countries exchange information about marriages?

I'm quite sure, as long as you don't marry in your home country, and never register any marriage there you can marry at least one woman in every other country, because your home country will always give you a paper that you are not married.

When I got the certificate the embassy official informed me that they were just certifying that I had said I wasn't married, and that was not proof that I wasn't.

[jackdd]

27 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

When I got the certificate the embassy official informed me that they were just certifying that I had said I wasn't married, and that was not proof that I wasn't.

Makes sense

 

What would be the legal situation in Thailand if it turns out you were married in another country already?

[thaibeachlovers]

34 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Makes sense

 

What would be the legal situation in Thailand if it turns out you were married in another country already?

Same as in yours.

[jackdd]

4 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Same as in yours.

I really doubt that the laws in Thailand are the same as in Germany

[thaibeachlovers]

27 minutes ago, jackdd said:

I really doubt that the laws in Thailand are the same as in Germany

Bigamy is bigamy whether in LOS or Germany.