mok199 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, possum1931 said: Respect has got to be earned, always start by respecting everybody, the people who are running the country you are living in, the people you meet and work with, your bosses, but if any of them start disrespecting you, and treating you badly, then you do the same back. there is always a way. In saying that, I don't think any of us can say whether in general, the Thais respect their country or not, you can speak about what your Thai wife, Thai family, and Thai friends say, but not in general. opinion ''a view or judgement about something,not necessarily based on fact or knowledge'' ..im just a resident of Thailand with an opinion..based on my observations..have a good day Edited March 7, 2018 by mok199 speliing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Just curious, but in your homeland, does hospitals, police, ambulance, etc., speak a foreign language? And which language would that be? My guess would be the language of love. Edited March 7, 2018 by HLover Added content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 5 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Just curious, but in your homeland, does hospitals, police, ambulance, etc., speak a foreign language? And which language would that be? I'm dutch mate and for sure they all speak english, probably also german or maybe even french. Also we all can swim. The police uses loads of translators for other languages, have loads of helicopters, rescueboats, new firetrucks and everything you can expect from a well developed country. Holland is no1 in speaking english as foreign language, all kids learn it at scool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Thian said: I'm dutch mate and for sure they all speak english, probably also german or maybe even french. Also we all can swim. The police uses loads of translators for other languages, have loads of helicopters, rescueboats, new firetrucks and everything you can expect from a well developed country. Holland is no1 in speaking english as foreign language, all kids learn it at scool. Impossible that the entire country can swim. Quadruple amputees are just one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StreetCowboy Posted March 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 7, 2018 24 minutes ago, HLover said: Impossible that the entire country can swim. Quadruple amputees are just one example. They can bob. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLover Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Just now, StreetCowboy said: They can bob. And balance those sweet wooden shoes/clogs on their pointy multiple language speaking heads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Thian said: In hospitals they should be able to speak english at the reception. Same goes for the police, haven't tried the ambulance but i guess i know the answer already. Also most pharmacy shops in BKK can't, on top of that even thai english teachers can't. You should see how they treat motobikedrivers, very selfish and using their car as weapon. Have you never had construction in your house? Then you 'll see the low standards... I have been happy with the work done to my house, same applies to my truck and motorbike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Thian said: In hospitals they should be able to speak english at the reception. Same goes for the police, haven't tried the ambulance but i guess i know the answer already. Also most pharmacy shops in BKK can't, on top of that even thai english teachers can't. In 2017, Thailand had just under 10 million visitors from China. Compared to under 3 million from the UK, US and Australia combined. Even if you factor in the English-speaking expats and non-native English speakers such as yourself, shouldn't their priority be to learn Chinese before English? 555 Seriously though, mandating English fluency from such workers would just push up the wages they'd have to pay them...then everyone would whine about the increased costs of everything! Edited March 7, 2018 by mgthom63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1) Dan Cheeseman 2) People like Dan Cheeseman , no income or savings so try to make money from Vloging 3 ) My mate Mate ( mercifully no longer a noise ) 4) Any failings clinging about Thailand. For pities sake, give it a rest , go a job or just go away. 5) Cockroaches. Strangely none in the boonies but legion in Bangkok. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, HLover said: And balance those sweet wooden shoes/clogs on their pointy multiple language speaking heads. What would they want clogs for? They'd want skateboards. I'm not going to mention space-hoppers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berkshire Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 51 minutes ago, Thian said: I'm dutch mate and for sure they all speak english, probably also german or maybe even french. Also we all can swim. The police uses loads of translators for other languages, have loads of helicopters, rescueboats, new firetrucks and everything you can expect from a well developed country. Holland is no1 in speaking english as foreign language, all kids learn it at scool. How about Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Russian? And all the other languages that the Thais have to deal with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 8 minutes ago, Berkshire said: How about Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Russian? And all the other languages that the Thais have to deal with. Why don't they just speak English to foreigners, like we do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, mgthom63 said: In 2017, Thailand had just under 10 million visitors from China. Compared to under 3 million from the UK, US and Australia combined. Even if you factor in the English-speaking expats and non-native English speakers such as yourself, shouldn't their priority be to learn Chinese before English? 555 Seriously though, mandating English fluency from such workers would just push up the wages they'd have to pay them...then everyone would whine about the increased costs of everything! My insurance will pay the hospital bill. And the chinese also come to europe, the rich ones that is. They love to shop in the designer-outlets. Have fun in the hospital if you can't understand what they're saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 1 hour ago, Berkshire said: How about Chinese? Japanese? Korean? Russian? And all the other languages that the Thais have to deal with. If they don't want to speak to them they should promote their tourismbusiness. The beachbed renters can speak russian, i 've seen it myself. If the Thai could all speak english in the tourism/hospital/hotelsector they could blame the koreans for not speaking english. But they even can't do it themselves, even not in Siam Paragon on any other mall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Thian said: My insurance will pay the hospital bill. And the chinese also come to europe, the rich ones that is. They love to shop in the designer-outlets. Have fun in the hospital if you can't understand what they're saying! Just as much 'fun' in hospitals for the Chinese when their native language isn't spoken...and they far outnumber the native English speakers. I came across an amazing app on my smartphone recently...it's a Thai-English translator! Maybe more Chinese should go to Holland instead. I'm assuming everyone in the tourism/hospital/hotel sector there is fluent in Cantonese and Mandarin, given their rising importance as a source of tourism? Edited March 7, 2018 by mgthom63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Thian said: Edited March 7, 2018 by mgthom63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 27 minutes ago, mgthom63 said: Just as much 'fun' in hospitals for the Chinese when their native language isn't spoken...and they far outnumber the native English speakers. I came across an amazing app on my smartphone recently...it's a Thai-English translator! Maybe more Chinese should go to Holland instead. I'm assuming everyone in the tourism/hospital/hotel sector there is fluent in Cantonese and Mandarin, given their rising importance as a source of tourism? There are plenty chinese who are well educated, well mannered and speak decent english.....but they don't go to thailand in cheapo grouptours... They are just like westerners who try to avoid risky countries, you should see them in Switzerland where the staff in the designers watch shops are chinese as well and speak several languages. I felt like i was in China when visiting Luzern Swiss last summer, they were all over the place buying watches for big bucks. Those chinese sit in a touringcar all day in Europe and visit 6-8 countries in a week. They only go for the highlights and cheap brandname shopping in outlets. But Amsterdam will totally ban ALL coaches in the city soon, so i wonder if they will still go there or what they will do next. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Thian said: There are plenty chinese who are well educated, well mannered and speak decent english.....but they don't go to thailand in cheapo grouptours... They are just like westerners who try to avoid risky countries, you should see them in Switzerland where the staff in the designers watch shops are chinese as well and speak several languages. I felt like i was in China when visiting Luzern Swiss last summer, they were all over the place buying watches for big bucks. Those chinese sit in a touringcar all day in Europe and visit 6-8 countries in a week. They only go for the highlights and cheap brandname shopping in outlets. But Amsterdam will totally ban ALL coaches in the city soon, so i wonder if they will still go there or what they will do next. ok, I'm not sure you're getting my point about why it may be slightly arrogant to suggest that Thai's in certain sectors should speak English (rather than Chinese or any other foreign language). But that's ok... Edited March 7, 2018 by mgthom63 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thian Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, mgthom63 said: ok, I'm not sure you're getting my point about why it may be slightly arrogant to suggest that Thai's in certain sectors should speak English (rather than Chinese or any other foreign language). But that's ok... Because english is the worldlanguage, is that so hard to understand? And it will never be chinese, there's not even 1 chinese language but several different ones. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Thian said: Because english is the worldlanguage, is that so hard to understand? And it will never be chinese, there's not even 1 chinese language but several different ones. Around 840 million people worldwide are native Mandarin speakers, while a further 180 million or so speak it as a second language, making it the world's most widely-spoken tongue. By comparison, only 340 million people are native English speakers, with some 510 million or so people having learned it as a second language. And we're talking about Thailand, not the world (where English speakers may be more prevalent /dispersed, but no idea)...in Thailand, Chinese -speaking tourists far outweigh English-speaking tourists nowadays, tour buses or no tour buses! Edited March 7, 2018 by mgthom63 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petchou Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 Hygiene and littering Driving and traffic Bad banking services Broken sidewalks Too much farangs lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybuz Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Berkshire said: Just curious, but in your homeland, does hospitals, police, ambulance, etc., speak a foreign language? And which language would that be? mine does mandarin,lao, french,urdu, and others as they are allowed to work in the country as nurses and doctors and wards people. my thai friends all speak english so no problems when in thailand. Edited March 7, 2018 by heybuz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex8912 Posted March 7, 2018 Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, Berkshire said: Just curious, but in your homeland, does hospitals, police, ambulance, etc., speak a foreign language? And which language would that be? Yes most do. Especially Spanish and several other languages. You are way out of line to be a Thai apologist on this topic. In hospitals in my home city I know at least 10+ languages are spoken. The police department has about 20 languages on the force. EMT’s are available in many languages. When you go into a high end store you can expect several employees to speak other languages than English. Lately I have been to several 5 star hotels here in Thailand and the level of English is deplorable. You are completely wrong!! Even my telephone bill at home at the end lists a dozen languages you can contact them in! Edited March 7, 2018 by alex8912 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 9 hours ago, Thian said: Not in the hospitals i visited. And once i saw a farang shouting to the receptionist because she gave him medicines but couldn't answer his questions about it. Very dangerous me thinks and very ashaming for that hospital in BKK. I doubt many receptionists could or should give advice about any prescribed medication in any language. I bet he looked like a complete fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, alex8912 said: Yes most do. Especially Spanish and several other languages. You are way out of line to be a Thai apologist on this topic. In hospitals in my home city I know at least 10+ languages are spoken. The police department has about 20 languages on the force. EMT’s are available in many languages. When you go into a high end store you can expect several employees to speak other languages than English. Lately I have been to several 5 star hotels here in Thailand and the level of English is deplorable. You are completely wrong!! Even my telephone bill at home at the end lists a dozen languages you can contact them in! Clearly time for some posters to vote with their feet. For them, Thailand obviously doesn't do enough to ensure that lowly hospital/police/hotel/mall employees take the time to learn English, Chinese, Russian, etc. This is obviously a deplorable state of affairs, given the large amount of money these folks are paid. Clearly these lazy people should be paying for English courses after their 12 hour/6-day shifts are over For those folks who get so upset, I'm guessing they will vote with their feet and not visit Thailand anymore? Edited March 8, 2018 by mgthom63 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgthom63 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 59 minutes ago, alex8912 said: Yes most do. Especially Spanish and several other languages. You are way out of line to be a Thai apologist on this topic. In hospitals in my home city I know at least 10+ languages are spoken. The police department has about 20 languages on the force. EMT’s are available in many languages. When you go into a high end store you can expect several employees to speak other languages than English. Lately I have been to several 5 star hotels here in Thailand and the level of English is deplorable. You are completely wrong!! Even my telephone bill at home at the end lists a dozen languages you can contact them in! And what is your home city/country, out of interest. Comparable to Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solinvictus Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 22 hours ago, HLover said: Funny, I get treated just fine by all the above-mentioned. Maybe a quick look in the mirror would explain why the complainers get treated the way they do? So your new nickname is pretty boy. ha. I'd say such a reply is similar to Thais. Good job. Ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonr1971 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 hours ago, lemonjelly said: being treated by a doctor that’s gone through a “no fail” education system Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect actually all medical staff (doctors and dentists) can fail subjects and have to repeat to eventually graduate. We know a dentist thats taking 2 yrs longer to finish her degree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andycoops Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 The negativity astounds me. If you don't like it in the LoS **** off back whence you came as you are only a guest here. As you would be anywhere other than your own country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, alex8912 said: Yes most do. Especially Spanish and several other languages. You are way out of line to be a Thai apologist on this topic. In hospitals in my home city I know at least 10+ languages are spoken. The police department has about 20 languages on the force. EMT’s are available in many languages. When you go into a high end store you can expect several employees to speak other languages than English. Lately I have been to several 5 star hotels here in Thailand and the level of English is deplorable. You are completely wrong!! Even my telephone bill at home at the end lists a dozen languages you can contact them in! Do you realise that 20 million Thais (around a third) are native issan/kmer/lao speakers and are already on theirs second language when they learn Thai. In the south, 1 million are native Yawi (malay) speakers, and in the east there are 1 million native Karen speakers. There are half a million native chinese speakers. The Thai Government recognises 62 languages spoken in Thailand. Chances are the local hospital or Police etc speak more languages than your multi-lingual home country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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