Marriage Visa - Is there such a thing?

[Media1]

1 minute ago, Happy enough said:

that's basically what he said

Incorrect he said they can revoke a.NON.O based on marriage and divorce. Your the man with a wealth of knowledge on the topic. But have not contributed at all lol.

[Media1]

2 minutes ago, lopburi3 said:

An extension of stay ends immediately when the reason for that extension of stay ends - you sign that paperwork for each extension of stay - there is no 7 days to leave unless you apply and pay for a new extension and it is officially declined or if extension obtaioned from one stop center (work) where believe they still allow the 7 days to leave without charge.

lol rubbish 

[anon789561]

4 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Incorrect he said they can revoke a.NON.O based on marriage and divorce. Your the man with a wealth of knowledge on the topic. But have not contributed at all lol.

don't need to, the answers the OP required were answered clearly much earlier on in the thread.

and the comment you replied to said he had never heard of an instance where a non o visa was cancelled on divorce

*and i don't claim to have a wealth of knowledge as often have to come to TVF to ask questions myself

Edited April 14, 2018 by Happy enough
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[Media1]

Just now, Media1 said:

lol rubbish 

you should not spread false rumors it's not good. L have been divorced before notified BKK and was given 7 days to obtain a new VISA.So please.. There will be many here that can agree. Or ask IMO.

[Media1]

don't or cant

[anon789561]

4 minutes ago, Media1 said:

lol rubbish 

that's not rubbish, that's true. the extension would end the same day then you'd have to go immo to ask for an extension which would be denied and they'd give you 7 days to leave the country

[Media1]

2 minutes ago, Happy enough said:

that's not rubbish, that's true. the extension would end the same day then you'd have to go immo to ask for an extension which would be denied and they'd give you 7 days to leave the country

Crazy people..Your given 7 days to leave

[Media1]

2 minutes ago, Media1 said:

Crazy people..Your given 7 days to leave

Furthermore the Amphur has no attachment to.immigration. They would not know your divorced unless the wife contacts them

[ubonjoe]

1 minute ago, Media1 said:

Your given 7 days to leave

There is no 7 days to leave unless you apply for an extension pay 1900 baht and then granted 7 days to leave the country after the application is denied.

The free 7 days went away many years ago.

[Media1]

14 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There is no 7 days to leave unless you apply for an extension pay 1900 baht and then granted 7 days to leave the country after the application is denied.

The free 7 days went away many years ago.

6 years ago l was divorced.and.given 7 days. A mate was divorced recently and stayed until the last day of his extension. Left the country got a new Tourist VISA..And not a word was said.

[Media1]

Just now, Media1 said:

6 years ago l was divorced.and.given 7 days. A mate was divorced recently and stayed until the last day of his extension. Left the country got a new Tourist VISA..And not a word was said.

Vietnam looks more inviting by the minute lol

[elviajero]

5 hours ago, overherebc said:

Let's say next year you get a new passport and you take it to Imm' to get your extension of stay transferred and they do so.

After you stay another few months you lose or your dog eats your passport. If you don't have copies etc you will need to leave Thailand get a new visa and start all over again with a new extension, that's because your old visa has expired and it's conditions no longer apply. Even if you had say just one copy of the page with the original visa it would be no use to you because it is no longer valid. 

When you got an extension of stay the visa is of no further use. It's a bit like holding a provisional car licence and when you pass your test you get a full licence so your provisional licence is then just a piece of paper that has no more relevance than the the fact that you had to have it before you could convert it to a full licence.

Again, you are wrong.

 

When you get a new passport immigration transfer your permit to stay ("extension") to the new passport. They also put details of the original visa used to enter the country in to the new passport. There are many people on extensions that have the original visa in old/lost passports. The fact that you have been able to extend your stay once is all the proof they need that you have entered the country with the prerequisite non-immigrant visa.

 

Even when someone has an extension of stay there are situations when a visa is still valid for use to enter the country.

Edited April 14, 2018 by elviajero

[elviajero]

4 hours ago, Media1 said:

Absolute rubbish.... A NON O.VISA can not be revoked lol. Upon divorce it remains valid.

Extension of stay. You must leave within 7 days. To get another VISA. That's the respect they give you 0.

Although they would not know you got divorced unless you told them

Any visa or permit to stay can be revoked. Even a 'Residence Permit' (commonly known as 'Permanent Residence'). FACT.

 

If a visa is issued on the basis of being married and you get divorced that visa is no longer valid for it's intended purpose and COULD be cancelled/revoked. It's no different to someone with a Tourist Visa that's discovered not being a tourist.

 

The fact that non 'O' (married) visas don't, as a rule, get cancelled/revoked is irrelevant, and mainly because immigration have know way of knowing that you've divorced unless someone tells them.

[kickstart]

On 13/4/2561 at 2:37 PM, stevenl said:

No, they can not do as they like.

 

If you were to show up with all paperwork complete for extension based on marriage and with 400k seasoned for 2 months it would be granted.

I had a  work permit  for a good 10 years, and when I got to 60 I said , I have a work permit, but for the visa I used my marriage certificate, plus 400k,I said to immigration do I have to have a retirement visa now I am 60 ,they said no, as long as you are still working you can use the marriage certificate .

But at the same time  I had to change employer, same job different employer, I had the old employer 5-6 years, went to Department of Labour,with  all the relevant paperwork, with my new employer ,they said for a Thia to employ a farang the company must pay 50 000baht a year in tax ,my new employer did not pay 15 000 baht a year in tax .

So that ended my working days in Thailand, so the wife and myself went back to immigration with all the paperwork to apply for an exertion based on marriage, 400k  seasoned for 3 months etc, they said now you are not working ,you are now on retirement visa 800k, needless to say ,we said can we still use the  marriage certificate ,they said  no .

Whether the fact I have been working, then stopped, was the factor for immigration to say you must now be on a retirement visa/ extension, and not marriage extension, I do not know, or is it Lopburi im making up they own rules again .

[stevenl]

25 minutes ago, kickstart said:

I had a  work permit  for a good 10 years, and when I got to 60 I said , I have a work permit, but for the visa I used my marriage certificate, plus 400k,I said to immigration do I have to have a retirement visa now I am 60 ,they said no, as long as you are still working you can use the marriage certificate .

But at the same time  I had to change employer, same job different employer, I had the old employer 5-6 years, went to Department of Labour,with  all the relevant paperwork, with my new employer ,they said for a Thia to employ a farang the company must pay 50 000baht a year in tax ,my new employer did not pay 15 000 baht a year in tax .

So that ended my working days in Thailand, so the wife and myself went back to immigration with all the paperwork to apply for an exertion based on marriage, 400k  seasoned for 3 months etc, they said now you are not working ,you are now on retirement visa 800k, needless to say ,we said can we still use the  marriage certificate ,they said  no .

Whether the fact I have been working, then stopped, was the factor for immigration to say you must now be on a retirement visa/ extension, and not marriage extension, I do not know, or is it Lopburi im making up they own rules again .

As I said "If you were to show up with all paperwork complete for extension based on marriage and with 400k seasoned for 2 months it would be granted. ".

[elviajero]

27 minutes ago, stevenl said:

52 minutes ago, kickstart said:

I had a  work permit  for a good 10 years, and when I got to 60 I said , I have a work permit, but for the visa I used my marriage certificate, plus 400k,I said to immigration do I have to have a retirement visa now I am 60 ,they said no, as long as you are still working you can use the marriage certificate .

But at the same time  I had to change employer, same job different employer, I had the old employer 5-6 years, went to Department of Labour,with  all the relevant paperwork, with my new employer ,they said for a Thia to employ a farang the company must pay 50 000baht a year in tax ,my new employer did not pay 15 000 baht a year in tax .

So that ended my working days in Thailand, so the wife and myself went back to immigration with all the paperwork to apply for an exertion based on marriage, 400k  seasoned for 3 months etc, they said now you are not working ,you are now on retirement visa 800k, needless to say ,we said can we still use the  marriage certificate ,they said  no .

Whether the fact I have been working, then stopped, was the factor for immigration to say you must now be on a retirement visa/ extension, and not marriage extension, I do not know, or is it Lopburi im making up they own rules again .

As I said "If you were to show up with all paperwork complete for extension based on marriage and with 400k seasoned for 2 months it would be granted. ".

.... However, if they did refuse the application you have the right to appeal and an appeal in this case would without doubt be upheld.

[kbelyeu]

8 hours ago, Media1 said:

Absolute rubbish.... A NON O.VISA can not be revoked lol. Upon divorce it remains valid.

Extension of stay. You must leave within 7 days. To get another VISA. That's the respect they give you 0.

Although they would not know you got divorced unless you told them

And here we go.. a Visa can absolutely be revoked, but my point was it has never happened to my knowledge for a non immigrant visa based on marriage due to a divorce.

[onera1961]

On 4/12/2018 at 7:35 AM, Happy enough said:

You can get a non ''o' based on marriage. either single entry, 90 days + 60 or 1 year Multi Non 'o', have to leave every 90 days and each entry can be extended by 60 days. some consulates require no proof of income such as savannaket and HCMC

What does the law say? Does the law say no funds required? Or is it left to the whim of consulates?

[onera1961]

On 4/12/2018 at 7:54 AM, lopburi3 said:

Any entry with the 90 day visa could be extended for one year with proof of 400k in Thai bank account for 2 months or income of 40k per month, much like for retirement but lower bank or income requirements but a bit more paperwork as spouse has to be interviewed also.

Also I assume there is no age requirement unlike retirement visa that requires the person to be over 50.

[elviajero]

3 hours ago, onera1961 said:

What does the law say? Does the law say no funds required? Or is it left to the whim of consulates?

There is no law as such. Embassies/consulates are issued with criteria by the Ministry Of Foreign Affairs for each type of visa. However, I have never been able to find out for sure if the criteria is tailored by the MFA for each location, or each location has the discretion to tailor the standard criteria based on the local demand. They certainly have discretion to ask for more than required by the MFA.

[elviajero]

3 hours ago, onera1961 said:

Also I assume there is no age requirement unlike retirement visa that requires the person to be over 50.

There is no age requirement for an extension based on marriage.

[anon789561]

6 hours ago, onera1961 said:

What does the law say? Does the law say no funds required? Or is it left to the whim of consulates?

certain consulates require different criteria. have to say i have always wondered how it all works and how it is decided which consulates do which visas and how they decide on which consulates require all the criteria such as financials and which don't. but i didn't wonder for too long, wonder about how stuff works here and i guess you'll be wondering for a long time without coming to any conclusion then just accept, that just the way it is. unless there is some logic behind it all, i wonder

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[Swimman]

9 hours ago, elviajero said:

There is no law as such. Embassies/consulates are issued with criteria by the Ministry Of Foreign Affairs for each type of visa. However, I have never been able to find out for sure if the criteria is tailored by the MFA for each location, or each location has the discretion to tailor the standard criteria based on the local demand. They certainly have discretion to ask for more than required by the MFA.

Many(All?)  western nations have different criteria/requirements  depending on the nationality of the person applying for a visa -- 

[anon789561]

3 minutes ago, Swimman said:

Many(All?)  western nations have different criteria/requirements  depending on the nationality of the person applying for a visa -- 

yes, but he's talking about the locations of the consulates not the nationality of the person applying

[kickstart]

On 14/4/2561 at 6:15 PM, elviajero said:

.... However, if they did refuse the application you have the right to appeal and an appeal in this case would without doubt be upheld.

You are probably right, and it would be upheld, in our own countreys it would be done and that is that, but this is Thailand, they would be considerable loss of face if it went to an appeal, and I have  still to go back again, 90 days, next years extension ect,and I might find they want this and that, that they never wanted before, myself and our local immigration office are on good terms, they know me by name.

Myself and all TV members  all want an easy life with "Dor- Mor",ok it was a pain in the butt having to find the extra 400k, but I knew it had to come someday, in fact I only renewed my extension yesterday, plain sailing, no problems, like a lot of farangs I have had extension  problems in the past ,but now everything is ok,I do not need any more hassle .