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4 hours ago, yogavnture said:

what are the countermeasures?  open season on bull sharks?  hopefully they will be able to distinquish between blacktip and bull. blacktips are innocent

Get a few more Aussie tourists here and open a fish and chips shop.

Shark is served up as Flake.. In Australia and is great eating. 

(sorry but we don't have Cod, to go with the chips, unlike the UK) 

 

Surprised its not on the menus more? 

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6 hours ago, lucjoker said:

Sharks have very good eyes........even in the poluted water of a Hua Hin beach.(video)

For us ,it is more difficult to see through those murky waters........

I would not swim in poluted water ,shark or no shark.

It is a pleasant surprise for me to know that the Gulf in the Hua Hin area is not so polluted that sharks can survive there.

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42 minutes ago, SunsetT said:

It is a pleasant surprise for me to know that the Gulf in the Hua Hin area is not so polluted that sharks can survive there.

If a shark had better eyes , he would not come there.....

in fact the shark was soo angry about the water quality ....he bit the man .........

 

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14 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Because some  local politician now says it was a shark because someone has a video taken on another day doesn't make it a shark attack. The physicians who examined the injury say it wasn't a shark. The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh suggest other than a shark bite.

 

How about asking a marine biologist who has knowledge of sharks, especially the alleged type, to review the documentation? There will have been close up pictures. Either there were tooth marks or there were not. So far no report of teeth marks. One other little detail not mentioned, when sharks bite, they can and do leave their teeth behind in the subject. They have rows and rows of teeth. No teeth were were reported as recovered. What's so difficult in asking an actual qualified person?

 

I have a hunch that this is just be an excuse to go wipe out the endangered shark population and to push back against the attempts to remove shark fin from menus.

That's about as uninformed a comment as the Doctor who said it was caused by a rock. Many shark bites do not shred, especially smaller sharks. And yes they can lose teeth,  but not always. 

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19 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Because some  local politician now says it was a shark because someone has a video taken on another day doesn't make it a shark attack. The physicians who examined the injury say it wasn't a shark. The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh suggest other than a shark bite.

 

How about asking a marine biologist who has knowledge of sharks, especially the alleged type, to review the documentation? There will have been close up pictures. Either there were tooth marks or there were not. So far no report of teeth marks. One other little detail not mentioned, when sharks bite, they can and do leave their teeth behind in the subject. They have rows and rows of teeth. No teeth were were reported as recovered. What's so difficult in asking an actual qualified person?

 

I have a hunch that this is just be an excuse to go wipe out the endangered shark population and to push back against the attempts to remove shark fin from menus.

I think you are in denial, and are convinced it was not a shark attack!

 

"some  local politician now says it was a shark" whereas what he said was " it looked like a bull shark was the likely cause "

 

"when sharks bite, they can and do leave their teeth behind in the subject. They have rows and rows of teeth. No teeth were were reported as recovered."  Sharks do not leave teeth behind every time they attack, but you are implying that because no teeth were recovered, it was not a shark attack.

 

"The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh" You've been watching Jaws too much! WHAT "broken bones"? What "torn or shredded flesh" It is a well documented fact that sharks do accidentally bite people, but more often than not, it is an "investigatory" bite - a "taster" if you like to see if it is a food source. In this case, it looks like it was exactly that - in fact "attack" is probably an exaggeration!

 

"Either there were tooth marks or there were not"  See Post #7 and accompanying photo.

 

"What's so difficult in asking an actual qualified person?"  Apparently, "Leading the well wishers was deputy Prajuab Khirikhan governor Chotnarin Kertsom, officials from disaster mitigation, the military, the police, Leading the well wishers was deputy Prajuab Khirikhan governor Chotnarin Kertsom, officials from disaster mitigation, the military, the police, the public health department, department of coastal resources, the Hua Hin district chief, the mayor and, Banmuang reported, many others"

 

I would suggest that someone among that crowd will have taken a pic of the injuries, and had them checked out, or even looked at the pic in Post #7, or possibly even seen shark bites before, as apparently attacks have happened before in Phuket and Surat Thani some years ago, and come to a educated guess/assumption that this was a shark bite.

 

Also, possibly the victim himself may have some recollection of standing in the water and suddenly thinking "Ouch - that hurt!" 

 

 

 

 

 

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the photo shows a slash cut . . . no teeth marks.  Looks like he slashed his leg on a barnacled rock. But let's make it a bull shark, so Thailand get's some attention worldwide, good for tourism, more brave Norwegians will arrive soon who cannot be stopped by any shark

 

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7 hours ago, torrzent said:

He appears to have aged quite a bit for 54 years old?

Doubt that this type of experience is a youth source...

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17 minutes ago, crazygreg44 said:

the photo shows a slash cut . . . no teeth marks.  Looks like he slashed his leg on a barnacled rock. But let's make it a bull shark, so Thailand get's some attention worldwide, good for tourism, more brave Norwegians will arrive soon who cannot be stopped by any shark

 

See Post #7 and attached pic!

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1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

Wonder how long it will be before the locals are building shark cages and offering shark encounter trips like you get in South Africa.

....and offering iron boots for rent....

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10 hours ago, soistalker said:

Fend off the shark? 

"Aren't you afraid of shark attacks?!"

"Not to worry; I have a snorkeling mask."

"Oh, alright then."

if u can see the shark its less apt to attack. if you are swimming the shark can go for a leg knowing you have no defensive action. just common sense .  like a dog that will nip if it knows you are not watching.........

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22 hours ago, worgeordie said:

"When I recover I'll be back in the sea," he said adding bravely: "No shark is going to stop me!" I think a Great White would !.

regards worgeordie

Maybe he has seen this Clip:

 

 

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On 4/17/2018 at 8:57 AM, geriatrickid said:

Because some  local politician now says it was a shark because someone has a video taken on another day doesn't make it a shark attack. The physicians who examined the injury say it wasn't a shark. The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh suggest other than a shark bite.

 

How about asking a marine biologist who has knowledge of sharks, especially the alleged type, to review the documentation? There will have been close up pictures. Either there were tooth marks or there were not. So far no report of teeth marks. One other little detail not mentioned, when sharks bite, they can and do leave their teeth behind in the subject. They have rows and rows of teeth. No teeth were were reported as recovered. What's so difficult in asking an actual qualified person?

 

I have a hunch that this is just be an excuse to go wipe out the endangered shark population and to push back against the attempts to remove shark fin from menus.

The director of the department of coastal and marine resources is a marine biologist and stand right next to his bed, do you think a Thai can’t be that? 

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On 4/17/2018 at 7:57 PM, geriatrickid said:

Because some  local politician now says it was a shark because someone has a video taken on another day doesn't make it a shark attack. The physicians who examined the injury say it wasn't a shark. The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh suggest other than a shark bite.

 

How about asking a marine biologist who has knowledge of sharks, especially the alleged type, to review the documentation? There will have been close up pictures. Either there were tooth marks or there were not. So far no report of teeth marks. One other little detail not mentioned, when sharks bite, they can and do leave their teeth behind in the subject. They have rows and rows of teeth. No teeth were were reported as recovered. What's so difficult in asking an actual qualified person?

 

I have a hunch that this is just be an excuse to go wipe out the endangered shark population and to push back against the attempts to remove shark fin from menus.

 

sharks do indeed lose teeth and leave them behind but in cases where the resistance or force required to tear is equal to or greater than the anchored in strength of the tooth.  do you really think a human foot; skin, soft tissue, muscle ligaments and tendons is strong enough?

 

"The broken bones and absence of ripped or torn or shredded flesh suggest other than a shark bite."

 

what photos were you looking at???

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14 hours ago, FitnessHealthTravel said:

That article you referenced/linked is BS and way out of date. Bull Sharks are not rare here in Thailand and especially in the Gulf.  They dive off a small outcrop hear Samui where there are many.  PLUS they are very, very aggressive and can adapt to many different conditions. It is possibly the only species of shark unless it was a baby Tiger shark that could have inflicted those type of wounds.  Speedy recovery to the man, He now goes into a small group that have survived a shark attack, not something I ever hope to join.

 

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  • 17 minutes ago, atyclb said:

     

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    This is a very informative and easy to understand answer "atyclb". Much more constructive and pleasant to read than those who argue back and forth.

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On 4/17/2018 at 10:53 AM, colinneil said:

 Why not just admit you were wrong?

Considering the fact that no one here saw the injuries first hand, my questions are legitimate. As I initially stated, it may very well have been a shark attack except that the injuries sustained were not consistent with a shark attack.

The case has yet to be reviewed by an actual experienced specialist in shark related injuries.   I remind you that;

-  The bones that were broken were described as fractures similar to what one sees in a slip and fall and not indicative of a crush injury.

- The skin was was still on the limb. Sharks do not chew, but shake their heads to rip off flesh. There was no shredding, no tearing, no ripping. Connective tissue should have been ripped or severed.

 

All I can do is comment on the photos I have seen. Maybe there was an initial encounter with a  small shark that was unable to bite off flesh or inflict much damage other than some lacerations, and in the ensuing panic, the bather injured himself on the coral debris or rocks as he fled. I have sliced open my foot at Thai beaches. Glass, metal, garbage and shells have been the culprit. Some of those wounds have been nasty.

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Due to the norwegian statemen, he was swimming 100 m from the shore of the beach, and was bitten 3 times, wich resoultet in 19 stiches. 

 

 

Some norwegian news on the attack. 

 

https://www.nettavisen.no/nyheter/nordmann-alvorlig-skadd-i-haiangrep-i-thailand/3423443590.html

 

https://www.nrk.no/mr/nordmann-skadet-i-haiangrep_-_-pa-feil-sted-til-feil-tid-1.14012377

 

 

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7 hours ago, neeray said:
  • This is a very informative and easy to understand answer "atyclb". Much more constructive and pleasant to read than those who argue back and forth.

thank you. so simple and easy to just look up shark attacks thailand and get some statistics

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3 hours ago, geriatrickid said:

Considering the fact that no one here saw the injuries first hand, my questions are legitimate. As I initially stated, it may very well have been a shark attack except that the injuries sustained were not consistent with a shark attack.

The case has yet to be reviewed by an actual experienced specialist in shark related injuries.   I remind you that;

-  The bones that were broken were described as fractures similar to what one sees in a slip and fall and not indicative of a crush injury.

- The skin was was still on the limb. Sharks do not chew, but shake their heads to rip off flesh. There was no shredding, no tearing, no ripping. Connective tissue should have been ripped or severed.

 

All I can do is comment on the photos I have seen. Maybe there was an initial encounter with a  small shark that was unable to bite off flesh or inflict much damage other than some lacerations, and in the ensuing panic, the bather injured himself on the coral debris or rocks as he fled. I have sliced open my foot at Thai beaches. Glass, metal, garbage and shells have been the culprit. Some of those wounds have been nasty.

 

 

u ever think that shark bites / attacks vary in severity and size of shark can also matter??  just common sense and knowledge of multiple reported attacks, injuries and outcomes. so easy and elementary to research it online if you not sure. 

every shark bite does not produce a fracture or break bone

 

you mention crush but disassociate it with a slip and fall but falls are always causing bone crush fractures . aka compression fractures and are very common.

 

you mention getting experts to review the injury but your rather stubborn refuting suggests you are indeed the expert. 

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15 minutes ago, yogavnture said:

did the spear fisher man have fish . that would explain this attack

 

Around the Chumpon pinnacles in Koh Tao I was charged by a shark my first dive there. I was up against the currant arund one of those pinnacles, and the shark came around the corner and charged me directly in clear water. I stopped breathing for a second or two, and it braked off just in front of me one meeter or so. I guess this is normal, but never happend again. Now there is almost no more sharks left there. This was 15 years ago. 

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