Best way to heal Acne ( and stop it re-occuring)

[essox essox]

i always though plenty of vitamin C helped/stopped acne.....there are plenty of supplements on the market sold in most chemists

[xylophone]

28 minutes ago, Rolanddrums said:

Serious? ..I think we'll give that a miss. Ive read read it can cause acne amongst many other possible problems used on Woman.

Yes I think we will try proper hospital . Maybe Bangkok Hospital ( Pattaya). Not quite Bumrungrad but half reasonable.

Try this before Roaccutane (Retinol cream or the stronger Retin-A cream)…….it acts by peeling back the skin to let clogged pores breath and bacteria disperse.

 

No real side effects apart from slightly red skin in some folks.

 

[Sheryl]

Since this problem developed only after she switched to a type of hormonal birth control known to cause acne it would make more sense to change birth control methods than to resort to something like accutane.

[Rolanddrums]

Hi makes sense but as  shecannot 'take out' an injection thats still got 2 months before its effect reduces , then perhaps another treatment in the meantime to reduce the acne?

[how241]

Yasmin might help.  It worked for several friends of mine.

[mommysboy]

On 14/05/2018 at 11:25 AM, scoutman360 said:

You are asking for a cure. The drug is Isotretinoin (commonly known as Accutane). I had severe acne until age 29, and was cured in 3 months. I have 2 other friends cured by it. All the other suggestions are mildly effective, at best. Daily scrubs and creams is just prolonged suffering, in my experience. Why continue to suffer when you can be done with it?

 

Be forewarned, this is a potent drug and should be monitored by a physician. I heard the success rate is only 50%, but my physician said he sees 80% success rate. Prepare for joint pain, loss of energy, and severely dry skin and cracked lips during the course of treatment. No alcohol, and it is absolutely critical that she does not get pregnant or it could cause birth defects. In my case, the drug was a painful experience, but I have been acne free for over 20 years now. 

 

Absolutely, this is the only cure.

 

Antibiotics in the tetracycline class also do the job, but only for as long as you take them.  Retin A cream may also have some success.

 

Most other suggestions might help with mild acne, but are useless with the sort of acne that causes people to worry.

 

Acne can indicate an underlying health problem in a small minority of cases, but generally can be said to occur most commonly in young people with very good health.

[mommysboy]

18 hours ago, essox essox said:

i always though plenty of vitamin C helped/stopped acne.....there are plenty of supplements on the market sold in most chemists

Thought wrong.

[mommysboy]

21 hours ago, flyingdoc said:

Also a 2% Beta Glucan cream should clear up the problem within 2 weeks !

Almost certainly utter nonsense.

[scorecard]

On 14/5/2561 at 2:27 PM, JoeInSurin said:

Tetracycline worked best for me. Cleared it up and has never came back.

 

Same with young Thai nephew, by 18 years old his face was an awful mess and his mother was insisting on going to the cosmetic counters (several) in his luxury shopping malls. They bought many many big name cosmetic creams which achieved nothing, in fact it was getting worse.

 

The boys' uni lecturer took him quietly to the uni clinic, the doctor did some quick research and gave him the name and full address, tel no etc. of a credible skin specialist who prescribed tetracycline capsules and a cream (which from my understanding was tetracycline medication plus a very strong disinfectant).

 

The specialist indicated that they would see little result for possible 3 to 5 weeks, then some slow progress but under no circumstances stop the treatment for 5 months.

 

As laid out by the doctor, nothing then slow progress then totally clear and nephew did continue for 5 months, 

 

Five years on never had one recurrence. 

 

 

[mommysboy]

1 minute ago, scorecard said:

 

Same with young Thai nephew, by 18 years old his face was an awful mess and his mother was insisting on going to the cosmetic counters (several) in his luxury shopping malls. They bought many many big name cosmetic creams which achieved nothing, in fact it was getting worse.

 

The boys' uni lecturer took him quietly to the uni clinic, the doctor did some quick research and gave him the name and full address, tel no etc. of a credible skin specialist who prescribed tetracycline capsules and a cream (which from my understanding was tetracycline medication plus a very strong disinfectant).

 

The specialist indicated that they would see little result for possible 3 to 5 weeks, then some slow progress but under no circumstances stop the treatment for 5 months.

 

As laid out by the doctor, nothing then slow progress then totally clear and nephew did continue for 5 months, 

 

Five years on never had one recurrence. 

 

 

Yes, even a cheap generic drug like doxy does the trick.  I think it is important to differentiate between teenage acne and adult acne.  The former tends to go away anyway after a few months/years and that is what probably happened to seem like a cure was affected.  However, with adult onset acne the spots are likely to come back as soon as you stop taking medication.

[Rolanddrums]

Thanks guys, I am still reading all with interest.  GF is 22 and not pregnant . Isotretanoin sounds interesting as long as no risky side effects . Maybe Retin A could be worth a try to. (As suggested twice.) Does this have any  side effects ? Is this available at pharmacy?  We will of course use a skin specialist if need be . Probably the one mentioned at  Bangkok( Pattaya) Hospital

ps  I would describe the severity of her condition as 'moderate' btw

Edited May 15, 2018 by Rolanddrums

[Different]

Doctors say food allergies can be a cause to body and mental sickness.

[Rolanddrums]

Well i wish she'd cut out all the 7/11 crap and Som Tum ( With Ba-Laa) I must admit, but other than that not bad though.

Edited May 15, 2018 by Rolanddrums

[mommysboy]

10 minutes ago, Rolanddrums said:

Thanks guys, I am still reading all with interest.  GF is 22 and not pregnant . Isotretanoin sounds interesting as long as no risky side effects . Maybe Retin A could be worth a try to. (As suggested twice.) Does this have any  side effects ? Is this available at pharmacy?  We will of course use a skin specialist if need be . Probably the one mentioned at  Bangkok( Pattaya) Hospital

ps  I would describe the severity of her condition as 'moderate' btw

Yes but did you read what mod. suggested?  If the cause is the pill then surely therein lays the solution.  Try this first.

 

Right now, there is no reason why she should not use Retin A cream and a clinical soap as advised.  But note things can be messy at first.  One advantage of Retin A is that it may mitigate scarring, and her skin could look younger too. Note: it is used sparingly.

 

For moderate acne, an antibiotic plus topical medication such as Retin A is usually prescribed.

 

For chronic, moderate acne then isotretanoin is indicated, but it must be under medical supervision.

[mommysboy]

3 minutes ago, Rolanddrums said:

Well i wish she'd cut out all the 7/11 crap and Som Tum ( With Ba-Laa) I must admit, but other than that not bad though.

Unless this is a recent thing in her diet, then it's unlikely to be a factor. How one approaches moderate acne is completely different from these 'feel-good' treatments, which may or may not work for people with the occasional spot.

[Justfine]

On 14/05/2018 at 6:43 PM, Per Walter said:

Isotretinoin will solve the problem. Normally it is in pill form and taken orally. But for minor problems, cream is also available. You need to visit a major hospital with dermatology departement and get the medication from them. This medication cures the most common acne problems 100%. After some time there might be reoccurance, then the medication has to be repeated. But finally, all acne problems will be gone. Isotretinoin should not be taken if there is the is a possibility of pregnancy. 

Drugs like this can lead to depression in some people. People need to see a doctor first.

[Rolanddrums]

Hi yes, we took on board what Sheyrl said and will change from the 3 mth injection to dual hormone tablet such as Yasmn asap. As her last injection was only 1 mth ago I guess it will still be in her system for another 2 months or more. Hence the interest in what we can do now in addition to the birth control drug change later. Which  moderate antibiotic do you suggest....Tetracycline?

[mommysboy]

15 minutes ago, Rolanddrums said:

Hi yes, we took on board what Sheyrl said and will change from the 3 mth injection to dual hormone tablet such as Yasmn asap. As her last injection was only 1 mth ago I guess it will still be in her system for another 2 months or more. Hence the interest in what we can do now in addition to the birth control drug change later. Which  moderate antibiotic do you suggest....Tetracycline?

That's good.

 

Well, really, the one that the doctor suggests, but 'doxy' always did the trick for me.  I don't think it destroys gut flora, and is generally very well tolerated by most people.  I don't know the routine in Thailand, but would imagine that it is best to go to a clinic attached to a hospital. I also imagine she'll come out with a prescription for said antibiotic, plus a lotion of some form- retin A if she is lucky.  But you may have to push the issue at a public hospital, because some of these medicines can be a bit pricey and acne is classed as a cosmetic condition.

 

Perhaps another poster will be able to help clarify.

 

ps: I have a bit of a zit attack at the moment, which I attribute to the hot weather, and a return to the gym.  

Edited May 15, 2018 by mommysboy

[xylophone]

30 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

Well, really, the one that the doctor suggests, but 'doxy' always did the trick for me.  I don't think it destroys gut flora, and is generally very well tolerated by most people

I have it (doxycycline) as my "go to" antibiotic here, but there are some side effects, albeit minor...………...

 

It can make teeth go yellow esp in younger people and it can make the skin very sun sensitive (in everyone), so stay out of direct sun as much as poss. In addition it can cause gastro disturbances so it can be taken with food, or around food time.

 

NEVER take before going to bed or laying down as it can cause irritation and burning of the esophagus.

 

I was on that drug for many years for months at a time, so know it pretty well.

 

Also generic and very cheap here...…...check out the dosage, however 100mg capsule per day may do the trick over a couple + months.

 

PS. Also good for some types of food poisoning and the malaria parasite if used with quinine.

[Justfine]

Vitamin D helps some people.

[mommysboy]

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

I have it (doxycycline) as my "go to" antibiotic here, but there are some side effects, albeit minor...………...

 

It can make teeth go yellow esp in younger people and it can make the skin very sun sensitive (in everyone), so stay out of direct sun as much as poss. In addition it can cause gastro disturbances so it can be taken with food, or around food time.

 

NEVER take before going to bed or laying down as it can cause irritation and burning of the esophagus.

 

I was on that drug for many years for months at a time, so know it pretty well.

 

Also generic and very cheap here...…...check out the dosage, however 100mg capsule per day may do the trick over a couple + months.

 

PS. Also good for some types of food poisoning and the malaria parasite if used with quinine.

 

Yes.  I thought teeth yellowing was only a possibility in children otherwise I would have mentioned it. However, it is generally very well tolerated in most.  I remember taking it once on an empty stomach and feeling somewhat nauseated for a short while.

[greenchair]

I'm  no expert. 

But those clinics are designed to keep you coming back. 

The sponges and towels and utensils are not at all sterilised , and even with sterilisation I have my doubts. Young people with a small acne go there and later end up with serious problems. She should never squeeze or cut the pimples that will leave horrendous scars. 

1.A simple facial foam once a day. 

2. Cut out all dairy products, especially milk. 

3.absolutely no make up. 

4.when going back to make up. do not borrow friends make up and do not use old infected make up and sponges. 

5. Do not squeeze or touch the pimples with dirty fingers. 

6.google apple cider vinegar.pimples .

Dab apple cider directly on pimples and leave overnight. 

Once a week put one cap of apple cider with warm water and drink. 

This cures pimples, but also cleared my cracked heals and tinea between the toes that I could not get rid of. 

It should be apple cider, mother organic. 

[Sheryl]

Isoretioin does have serious potentisl side effects (e.g. liver damage) and aldo non-serious but very annoying sude effects (dried chspped lips etc) and requires a long course of treatment. It is indicated only in cases where the acne dies not respond to other measures and is severe.

In a case like this where the acne is clearly due to use of progestin birth control the obvious solution is to address the cause.



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[tryasimight]

If the acne is due to an adverse result to birth control medication then an obvious route would be to stop all medication and use condoms for a couple of months and see what happens.

How old is the OP?

Perhaps a vasectomy may be recommended?

Edited May 16, 2018 by tryasimight

[Rolanddrums]

Hi , as mentioned we cannot 'take out' a 3 monthly injection thats already in her system, however when it gets nearer the time we are considering switching to a dual hormone pill such as Yasmin as recommended by Sheryl and one other . We will consult 'gyno' specialist on this nearer the time to . In the meantime I feel Isoretioin  is maybe OTT at this stage or least until we have tried other less extreme medications first. With that in mind (Also recommended on this thread) we have opted for :-  Tetracycline ( 250mg x 4 per day) and Retin A Cream (0.05%) Applied once a day at bedtime.

We started today so will give some feedback on results in a few days ...thanks again

 

Ooh I'm 57 btw.  You can recommend vasectomy/ condoms/no sex etc all you like but its not going to happen ..cheers

Edited May 16, 2018 by Rolanddrums

[mstevens]

14 hours ago, greenchair said:

6.google apple cider vinegar.pimples .

Dab apple cider directly on pimples and leave overnight. 

Once a week put one cap of apple cider with warm water and drink. 

This cures pimples, but also cleared my cracked heals and tinea between the toes that I could not get rid of. 

It should be apple cider, mother organic.

 

I endorse this.  Apple Cider Vinegar is the way to go - check out the international supermarkets for raw, organic apple cider vinegar.  This is a natural way to go without chemicals.  Do as the poster above suggests and Google acne and apple cider vinegar and I am convinced you'll give it a go!

[Justfine]

2 hours ago, mstevens said:

 

I endorse this.  Apple Cider Vinegar is the way to go - check out the international supermarkets for raw, organic apple cider vinegar.  This is a natural way to go without chemicals.  Do as the poster above suggests and Google acne and apple cider vinegar and I am convinced you'll give it a go!

ACV is mostly a con.

[mstevens]

2 hours ago, Justfine said:

ACV is mostly a con.

Do you really believe that?  Have you tried apple cider vinegar?  I have not tried it on acne as my acne period was decades ago (and I had no idea about apple cider vinegar back then) but let me tell you that it does work on warts.  Clears them up in no time and they don't come back.  There are A LOT of people who swear by the benefits of apple cider vinegar - and with my 500 ml bottle costing less than $5, it's not like you're going to go broke buying it.

[Justfine]

28 minutes ago, mstevens said:

Do you really believe that?  Have you tried apple cider vinegar?  I have not tried it on acne as my acne period was decades ago (and I had no idea about apple cider vinegar back then) but let me tell you that it does work on warts.  Clears them up in no time and they don't come back.  There are A LOT of people who swear by the benefits of apple cider vinegar - and with my 500 ml bottle costing less than $5, it's not like you're going to go broke buying it.

I tried it. It does little as a drink. Look at the ingredients.

 

It contains acid so may treat some skin conditions but some people have suffered burns.

 

Tea tree oil is safer to use on skin.

[Justfine]

https://www.karger.com/Article/Abstract/45180

 

Also dangerous in high doses