Peterw42 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, Rori ban khun fang said: T Yes hypothermia is the real issue. I not expect they have polar clothes and anoraks with them. No food, No fire is the issue in here. Probably they are in there with wet clothes. When the body temperature sinks to 31 degrees or lower bodies wil get in spasm mode. At 28 or lower it is deadly. I presume in the cave the temperature is at about 18 degrees at a maximum. Sad to day I have no hope for the kids anymore. People I know who were in the pattaya beach cave before only enter it with special clothing. To keep warm and dry. Its been widely disseminated that the temperature in the cave is a steady 25 degrees, night and day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 I thought "..about to reach" was heard days before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Ape Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Hearing some potential good news re progress. Watch this space... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rori ban khun fang Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 hours ago, IamNoone88 said: The 2010 Copiapó mining accident began as a cave-in on 5 August 2010 at the San José copper-gold mine in the Atacama Desert near Copiapó, Chile. The accident left 33 men trapped 700 meters (2,300 ft) below ground who survived underground for a record 69 days.[1][2] All 33 men were rescued and brought to the surface on 13 October 2010 over a period of almost 24 hours. After the last trapped miner was winched to the surface, the rescue workers still underground held up a sign before the camera stating “Misión cumplida Chile” (English: “Mission accomplished Chile”) to the estimated more than 1 billion people watching the rescue on live television around the world.[3] I hope these kids make it ....... The issue is that in mines at a dept of over 400 meters from the surface the temperature is rising. I was in coalmines at a dept of 700 to 1000 meters. Coal mines in general are dry. The temperature there withou cooling is 30 to 35 degrees C. In the caves the boys are in it is wet, humid and damp. We have no idea if they came in dry or wet. But as stated the temperature is maximum at 25 degrees C when there is air flowing and not everything blocked with water. They can be alive. But with the waterflowing throught the mine as it is now The temperature might drop. Whenthe bodytemperature goes down to 31 degrees C. people get spams and at 28 degrees C or lower dead will be the end. When a healthy nude man will jump in water at 4 degrees C and stay in there unpractised longer than 1 minute he will probably be dead already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, wvavin said: I thought "..about to reach" was heard days before? It was, then the water rose and they needed to retreat. At the start the rescuers were going in 3-4 kilometres on foot, now thats being done by divers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 Found Them, just on the news, all alive 6 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rori ban khun fang said: The issue is that in mines at a dept of over 400 meters from the surface the temperature is rising. I was in coalmines at a dept of 700 to 1000 meters. Coal mines in general are dry. The temperature there withou cooling is 30 to 35 degrees C. In the caves the boys are in it is wet, humid and damp. We have no idea if they came in dry or wet. But as stated the temperature is maximum at 25 degrees C when there is air flowing and not everything blocked with water. They can be alive. But with the waterflowing throught the mine as it is now The temperature might drop. Whenthe bodytemperature goes down to 31 degrees C. people get spams and at 28 degrees C or lower dead will be the end. When a healthy nude man will jump in water at 4 degrees C and stay in there unpractised longer than 1 minute he will probably be dead already. Where do you get 1 minute at 4 degrees. Vancouver's annual polar bear swim is colder and they recommend getting out of the water at 15 minutes. These are amateurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxcorrigan Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Yes great news all 13 found and alive on Thai news! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rori ban khun fang Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 As just was in the news the 13 people have been found. Seem to be alive. It will take 4 hrs from now to go with more news. First a doctor will be going in the cave. So hopefully no fake news from the government spokesman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaos Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Found alive. Still cant get out due flood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Found Them, just on the news, all alive Just heard the same Peterw42 , can't understand much all in Thai . My eyes are filling up right now . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGW Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Xaos said: Found alive. Still cant get out due flood. Thats a small problem right? as if they wont be able to get them out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Found Them, just on the news, all alive Those of little faith stand down please. A lot of really hard work by dedicated and caring individuals working together despite extremely adverse conditions in a very remote location. Now they need the time and conditions to safely extract them from 'Pattaya Beach' 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YTP Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Yes! Watching this live on Workpoint News. Confirmed all 13 are safe. Doctors are being sent in to help them recover and have strengh to make the journey out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaff Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 All safe ! they are not live on Thai TV http://www.onlinethailand.net/tv_online/ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jenny2017 Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 ?Yessssss, they found them....it's on the news. I can't say how we feel. Thanks, god, Buddha......................? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, toofarnorth said: Just heard the same Peterw42 , can't understand much all in Thai . My eyes are filling up right now . +1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post chrisinth Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 Well, this has just made my day. Although it obviously hasn't given the condition that the kids are in, the fact that all 12 and the coach are alive is great. Really, really great. To all the people involved in this rescue, and by that I mean the ones on scene from the cooks to those on the front line, words cannot describe the respect that I have for you all. And I know it really isn't the time, I hope that all the people that have been littering these threads with their pessimism are having time to rethink their outlook and have a little faith in the brave. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderluster Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 yes yes they are all alive... great news. been 10 min now and still can not find anything on cnn or bbc? thanks to all that worked tirelessly, you can all concider yourselves true heros cant wait for the movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Julie H Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 hours ago, sawadee1947 said: Sounds for me a bit stupid. These boys in case they are alive will be traumatised wrecks for their whole life. This event has proved just how toxic this forum is and the people that do nothing post negative rubbish are nothing 8 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jenny2017 Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: +1 I had a lesson with M 6 kids and we said that they'll find them today. Thank god. Edited July 2, 2018 by jenny2017 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Familyonthemove Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 Statement on Channel 7 news now. Found them, will take time to get them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldgit Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-44688909Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkenny Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, wanderluster said: yes yes they are all alive... great news. been 10 min now and still can not find anything on cnn or bbc? thanks to all that worked tirelessly, you can all concider yourselves true heros cant wait for the movie Just got the BBC news flash now. Brilliant. I am so happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jip99 Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 That is fantastic news.......better than we could have hoped for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andaman Al Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 Outstanding news. The whole site seems overcome with emotion (quite rightly). A fantastic job and even better outcome. This was down to a dogged determined approach by all those involved in the rescue attempt. I hope they have an awesome party after the clean up tomorrow. I can't wait to see the shots when the boys are reunited with the Parents. WELL DONE Thailand. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post darksidedog Posted July 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2018 Happy days. I have been positive from the start and I hope the doomsayers will now shut up and accept that they were wrong. Awesome work by thousands of very brave people to battle the elements and bring this amazing result. Brilliant people! Just brilliant! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julie H Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Familyonthemove said: Statement on Channel 7 news now. Found them, will take time to get them out. Your about 20min too late. We already know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 wonderful news, I'm very emotional didn't expect this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unify Posted July 2, 2018 Share Posted July 2, 2018 The found them all, alive. http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/13-boys-coach-found/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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