Pheu Thai will ban military conscription if voted in

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Are you privy to the accounts and journals of PTP. 

 

Are you privy to their accounts etc?

[Mexlark]

5 minutes ago, brain150 said:

Divide and Conquer !!!

Looks like CIA textbook to me.

There is no way the Junta can allow this to happen but as a result there will be 

tensions that can be used to divide the people even more than they are already.

 

The Ukraine comes to mind - exactly the same situation and what happened there is well known.

Iran, Cuba, Nicaragua, Libya, Syria - the list is long. Always the same strategy used and by know pretty well

documented.

 

Be prepared for some ugly things to happen in the near future.

Unless of course people start to understand what is happening and who really pulls the strings behind the scenes.

It is not Thaksin ... he is just a puppet himself. It is also not the Junta.

 

There is a much bigger game played here and Thailand is just a tiny part of it.

"The grand chessboard" is a good place to start for anybody who wants to understand the connections !!! 

More than happy to see the bigger picture in this. The various conspiracy theories do go off on a bit of a tangent though. We can go right back to 1945 on this one.   if not further. The great still grate

[NCC1701A]

5 hours ago, holy cow cm said:

The submarine idea is good, but who is going to buy them? Ghana?

Vietnam will add them to their fleet of subs. They have be preparing for war with China for a few years now.

[pornprong]

3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Are you privy to their accounts etc?

You are the one making the accusations so you need to provide the evidence.

Where is it?

You've got nothing but a head full of prejudices that have left no room for logic, facts and reality.

[Mexlark]

Judging by tv propaganda, the real sucking up is going North. Vietnam is still the enemy

[pornprong]

17 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

Distort, deflect, deny the truth, pretend, claim anyone daring to criticize the Big Boss must be a fascist Junta fanboy.

 

How desperate the Shin shrills must be.

Another post, yet still no links.

I am beginning to think you have no proof to support your claims.

 

Edited August 28, 2018 by pornprong

[Jonmarleesco]

It wouldn't be past time. It's an anachronism, long past its sell-by date. 

[Eric Loh]

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Are you privy to their accounts etc?

No. That's why I don't speculate like you and your like minded friends do. They are strict rules and regulations in the Political Party Act on funds accountability. Have a read and get educated. 

[billd766]

5 hours ago, Cadbury said:

I thought the PM had set his 20 year strategy in concrete and it was illegal for anyone or any future government to change it; national service and submarines included.

 

 

The 2014 coup was illegal too. If the PTP win and the junta lose the only way they could stop the PTP would be another military coup and I don't think that would go down too well.

[Baerboxer]

Just now, pornprong said:

Another post, yet still no links.

I am beginning to think you have no proof to support your claims.

 

I'm not your researcher - nor do I feed the troll!

 

Perhaps you'll deny it's Wednesday tomorrow or ask for a link? 

 

End of conversation Shin shrill.

[tomta]

48 minutes ago, GarryP said:

They should ban promotion to senior positions in the military until at least 3/4 of the generals have retired or gone their merry way.  Promotion could then be based on merit, not on whose butt you have been licking.     Together with an end to conscription, a more professional military could then develop. 

Good idea. A swathe of demotions and sackings would be a good idea too. They  won't be able to get this idea through without a massive clean sweep and they'll need to do it as a fresh newly mandated and elected government. Lots of room at the ministry of inactive posts for political generals

[Baerboxer]

2 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

No. That's why I don't speculate like you and your like minded friends do. They are strict rules and regulations in the Political Party Act on funds accountability. Have a read and get educated. 

 

Yeah right. And PTP are well known for the adherence to the law, the rules, the protocols and their fastidious accounting!

 

?

[Mexlark]

Where's the evidence? Naturally, us commoners aren't allowed to know stuff like that. We can only detect the fever.

[pornprong]

1 minute ago, Baerboxer said:

I'm not your researcher - nor do I feed the troll!

Perhaps you'll deny it's Wednesday tomorrow or ask for a link? 

End of conversation Shin shrill.

Your clearly not even your own researcher, just a anti-democratic Junta mouth piece.

 

Is tomorrow really Wednesday?

Turns out it is.

How do I know? 

E V I D E N C E

Here is an image of a calendar and a link below

http://www.calendar-month-printable.com/august-2018-calendar-with-holidays-uk-37.html

 

See how easy it is.

 

(BTW - Claiming your not "feeding a troll" to avoid answering legitimate questions in regards to your nonsense posts can be seen by all for what it is, a measly excuse to avoid accountability)

 

 

[Horace]

5 hours ago, Eligius said:

That's it. No chance for Pheua Thai now. Once they come out with this kind of policy (which is actually a sensible plan, in and of itself, in my view ), the militaristic Powers That Be will become apoplectic and pull every trick in the book to block Pheua Thai's inevitable march to victory (in a free and fair election - which will never happen here under the ju

 

Maybe.  You are absolutely right about the Powers that Be becoming apoplectic.  

 

But you are right in saying this does makes good sense, and in the long run I am optimistic that good sense will prevail.  I may be worm food by the time good sense prevails, but I think it will ultimately happen.

[billd766]

1 hour ago, DavisH said:

My m4-6 boys waste a day a week for 3 years doing this military training. At the end now have even discharged a firearm in anger. Definitely a waste of time, and causes a big problem for any boy who wants to study overseas for high school. They risk conscription if they return and haven't done their military service. 

 

I was in the RAF for 25 years and I never fired a shot in anger either so what difference does that make?

 

If your M4-6 boys have done their 3 years they are exempt conscription anyway.

[HAKAPALITA]

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[pornprong]

7 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Yeah right. And PTP are well known for the adherence to the law, the rules, the protocols and their fastidious accounting!

 

?

Got a link to back up your accusation?

Nope, you don't, do you?

Nonsense again.

[Eric Loh]

6 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Yeah right. And PTP are well known for the adherence to the law, the rules, the protocols and their fastidious accounting!

 

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They better do or the junta will find another excuse to dissolve them. You know that well. 

[billd766]

1 hour ago, baboon said:

Indeed. For example there is a rumour going around that I have a 12 inch ding-a-ling. I know because I started it...

 

I have seen the selfie and it is only 6 1/4 really.

[pornprong]

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

I was in the RAF for 25 years and I never fired a shot in anger either so what difference does that make?

If your M4-6 boys have done their 3 years they are exempt conscription anyway.

The difference is in Thailand young conscripts either end up as housemaids for Generals wives or beaten to death.

(Not to mention the huge waste of state funds spent on maintaining such a large standing force in a country not even remotely under threat from anyone anywhere).

 

Ending conscription save lives, save funds and weakens the military's ability to conduct coups.

Win, win, win.

[billd766]

49 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

The same "Patriarch" promised to make every one a millionaire in 6 months if they voted for him once; and vowed to stand shoulder to shoulder with his paid insurgents when the bullets started flying. He lied.

 

Most Shin promises can be taken with a pinch of salt. The only thing they ever deliver is more wealth for themselves and a few crumbs for the masses.

 

The current PM promised reconciliation, an end to corruption, police reforms and elections. I haven't seen any of that after 4 years. Have you?

 

His promises can be taken with a truckload of salt.

[Eric Loh]

1 minute ago, pornprong said:

The difference is in Thailand young conscripts either end up as housemaids for Generals wives or beaten to death.

(Not to mention the huge waste of state funds spent on maintaining such a large standing force in a country not even remotely under threat from anyone anywhere).

 

Ending conscription save lives, save funds and weakens the military's ability to conduct coups.

Win, win, win.

12 B annually on draftees and 50 M just for the yearly silly conscription charade. Sell those useless submarines and channel them for healthcare or education.  

[starky]

4 hours ago, yellowboat said:

Conscription is a waste of money and the lives of young men.   The PTP are right, but the junta will lash out in their predictable fashion with threats.   The PTP is probably banking on the Thai people getting tired of threats from the military.  PTP has been given the high road.

The lives of young men? I'm the Thai military?  Hahahahaha 

[watcharacters]

6 hours ago, Cadbury said:

it was illegal for anyone or any future government to change it; national service and submarines included.

 

 

I can't believe you really mean that.   Do you believe anything from a government is etched in stone?

 

[Destiny1990]

Will these hospitals have double pricing?

[holy cow cm]

I do have one after thought now. My son does the one day a week military called Ror Dor. He is now last year of school M6. The only reason most all kids do this for 3 years is so they do not have to go into the military and do the lottery for conscription. Unfortunately El-Fat head changed the rules this year and it is more looking like he is building a society of military that really has to obey and cannot talk back as they are technically still military but in the reserve. Even conscripts are not free after serving. It is truly a military country. Just look at the junta tryin to train kindergartners in Dec 2016 for military brain washing. So the damage is already done and way embedded more than the average Thai or foreigner thinks. Good thing my son has dual citizenship as US citizen. 

 

Quote from article: There the conscripts were assigned to units for training and then to appropriate service elements for duty. After a two-year commitment, conscripts who did not choose to reenlist (or were not permitted to do so) were released and placed on unassigned reserve status for an additional twenty-three years. During this period of reserve service they were subject to recall whenever a need arose

[greenchair]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

IMHO it's just another paymaster plan to create buy budgets troughs for the pt yes sir slaves to get their sticky fingers into.

 

 

The PTP have been accused of money spending populist policies that the present government are 10 times worse. They have come up with 2 wonderful policies that Don't require a penny and even will save money. Might even save a few lives .

Your comment is kind of confusing. 

[scorecard]

1 minute ago, greenchair said:

The PTP have been accused of money spending populist policies that the present government are 10 times worse. They have come up with 2 wonderful policies that Don't require a penny and even will save money. Might even save a few lives .

Your comment is kind of confusing. 

 

Read it again, there's no confusion whatever. 

 

Approve the building of a hospital, therefore create a budget (money), get into collusion to overprice the construction or whatever, corruption, noses in troughs.

 

 

[DavisH]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

 

I was in the RAF for 25 years and I never fired a shot in anger either so what difference does that make?

 

If your M4-6 boys have done their 3 years they are exempt conscription anyway.

My point is they need to do it while at school, which hinders their learning opportunities if they want to study high school in another country, and then return.