renewing O-A visa?

[Alex Dudek]

Hi,

Can someone kindly advise:

    how can I renew my O-A visa and what are the requirements? 
    how many days in advance should I renew?
    how long will it take to process it?
    how much I have to pay for it?

Thank you and Have a nice day.

 

 

[overherebc]

O-A visa you can only get a new one in your home country.

Same requirements as your first one.

[Peterw42]

A new OA visa would be obtained back in home country.

An O-A visa is a visa you would have got in your home country , during the validity of the visa you get stamped in for a year stay, each entry. When the validity and then the stay stamp are about to expire, and you wish to stay in Thailand, you will be going to immigration and getting an extension of stay, not a visa or a renewal of a visa.

Most immigration offices will do the extension within one month before your stay stamp expires, its usually processed the same day, cost is 1900 baht.

[overherebc]

13 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

An O-A visa is a visa you would have got in your home country , during the validity of the visa you get stamped in for a year stay, each entry. If the validity and stay stamp are both about to expire, you will be going to immigration and getting an extension, not a visa or a renewal of a visa. A new OA visa would be obtained back in home country

Most immigration offices will do the extension within one month before your stay stamp expires, its usually processed the same day, cost is 1900 baht.

Will also require to show 800,000 baht or income of 65,000/month or combination of bank and income equal to 800,000/year.

If 800,000 some Imm' offices say must have been in the bank for two months the first year of application, three months every year after.

Some offices say must be 3 months even for the first extension.

You would need to ask your local Imm' office what they require.

[ThaiBunny]

Assuming you got a 12-month multiple-entry visa in your home country and the “enter before” date is in the future, you can leave Thailand and return the next day, and get a further 12 months permission to stay. In that case your only cost is the airfare. No need for money in the bank etc. until you’re approaching the date you got on your last entry which could be another year away. Note this only works if you got a 12-month multiple entry O-A and your visa hasn’t expired and you travel and return before that date

[glegolo]

Difference also between an O-A on one hand and an extension of stay on the other is that when taking the extension route instead you only have to show BRUT income instead of the more difficult NET income in your home country

[Andrew Dwyer]

Assuming you got a 12-month multiple-entry visa in your home country and the “enter before” date is in the future, you can leave Thailand and return the next day, and get a further 12 months permission to stay. In that case your only cost is the airfare. No need for money in the bank etc. until you’re approaching the date you got on your last entry which could be another year away. Note this only works if you got a 12-month multiple entry O-A and your visa hasn’t expired and you travel and return before that date

Yes to this !

I would add that the OP can do a border run to a neighbouring country and come back immediately to obtain the 1 year “ admitted until “ stamp .

I went to Myanmar, took about 30 mins and got 23 months from my OA as a result !

[JimGant]

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Difference also between an O-A on one hand and an extension of stay on the other is that when taking the extension route instead you only have to show BRUT income instead of the more difficult NET income in your home country

It's gross income for an O-A application in the US. Suspect the same everywhere, as kind of difficult to net out alimony, child support, rental property expenses, etc. Even taxes might not show up on your income statement, should you pay with quarterly estimated tax payments, and not withholding per pay check.

[sqwakvfr]

Gross Income on the O-A Application at the Thai Embassy/Consulate would not be a problem.  I am using my Net Income on the Income Affidavit because CM Immigration now wants proof of income.  My bank statements only show Net Income being direct deposited every month.  I'm going to keep things simple. 

[glegolo]

41 minutes ago, JimGant said:

It's gross income for an O-A application in the US. Suspect the same everywhere, as kind of difficult to net out alimony, child support, rental property expenses, etc. Even taxes might not show up on your income statement, should you pay with quarterly estimated tax payments, and not withholding per pay check.

In Sweden it is NET like I said (it was MY quote you quoted), and BRUT here in Thailand for the extensions....

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• 2 sets of the Application form (click here to download)
• Original passport
• 2 sets of Copy of passport (the page with your information)
• 2 photographs
• 2 set of the Additional form (click here to download)
• 1 original and 1 copies of Criminal record from polismyndigheten
• 1 original and 1 copies of the medical certificate
• Evidence of adequate finance
  1 original and 1 copies of Pension statement showing at least 18 500 SEK in pension income per month after taxes
  1 original and 1 copies of Or Bank statements) with an amount of at least 228 000 SEK
• 1 original and 1 copies of Personbevis
• Visa fee. 1500 SEK (cash only)

  Please separate the documents into two sets. One set with the original paper and 1 set with the copy.

[JimGant]

Interesting, glegolo. So Thai authorities in Sweden ask for pension statements net of taxes. What about other income statements, like rental receipts -- would these be net of expenses? Or are they even acceptable?

 

And in Thailand, gross (BRUT) income is acceptable for extensions. Presumably, then, this applies to obtaining an income letter from the Swedish embassy.  Does the Swedish embassy ask for proof of this income?

[ThaiBunny]

A friend of mine in Australia has used the rental agreement on his house as proof of income with the Thai Consulate in Canberra. There were no questions about any costs to him of owning the property such as local taxes or mortgage interest, so I’m guessing gross income is all they care about


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[glegolo]

12 hours ago, JimGant said:

Interesting, glegolo. So Thai authorities in Sweden ask for pension statements net of taxes. What about other income statements, like rental receipts -- would these be net of expenses? Or are they even acceptable?

 

And in Thailand, gross (BRUT) income is acceptable for extensions. Presumably, then, this applies to obtaining an income letter from the Swedish embassy.  Does the Swedish embassy ask for proof of this income?

Yes I find it incredibly stupid to have it this way. Plse do not ask me why. Ithas always been like this i.e. NET when proving income for VISAS at the embassies and consulates in Sweden. Mind you this is not somethinfg that Sweden as a country or swedish people as population has any responsibility of. This ois a thai thing, you understand that.

 

Besides this, YES we have to prove our income at the swedish embassy in Thailand. just like most countrys accept yours and a very few others...

 

glegolo

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Mind you this is not somethinfg that Sweden as a country or swedish people as population has any responsibility of. This ois a thai thing, you understand that.

I suspect that is due the the embassy in Stockholm knowing what can be provided by the government in Sweden. Thai embassies do follow some instructions or advice given to them by the country where they are located in some cases.

[lkv]

11 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Mind you this is not somethinfg that Sweden as a country or swedish people as population has any responsibility of. This ois a thai thing, you understand that.

Could also be the local staff's way of interpreting vague regulations coming from the MFA, just to play it safe.

 

It's unlikely for Thailand to impose that on Sweden specifically, in my opinion.

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, lkv said:

Could also be the local staff's way of interpreting vague regulations coming from the MFA, just to play it safe.

There is no vague instructions coming from the MFA in this case. Have look at this. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O-A"-(Long-Stay).html

[lkv]

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

There is no vague instructions coming from the MFA in this case. Have look at this. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15385-Non-Immigrant-Visa-"O-A"-(Long-Stay).html

Ok let me rephrase.

 

Sweden is a high income country, it's not say India. I feel it's unlikely for the MFA to have specifically told them to use nett for the calculation instead of gross.

 

I feel that the local staff in Sweden goes for nett by their own choice to avoid any future misunderstandings, since the MFA does not clearly provide information on such a thing. That's what I meant by "vague".

 

It's just an opinion though.

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, lkv said:

Sweden is a high income country, it's not say India.

But not always for pension income. I knew (RIP) a fellow from there that only had a pension of about 40k baht per month

[glegolo]

43 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

But not always for pension income. I knew (RIP) a fellow from there that only had a pension of about 40k baht per month

e have in Sweden a huge variation of pension-payouts of course. many is the guys who have pension in todays value of the currency in the range of about; 65.000 baht (net) and up.....

 

But there is also a huge lot of people they made their "bed" already in younger years, and didn´t pay into the pensions-funds via their taxes... So these people, who is a huge portion in Sweden, have between 30-40.000 baht per month net net..

 

glegolo

[glegolo]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

I suspect that is due the the embassy in Stockholm knowing what can be provided by the government in Sweden. Thai embassies do follow some instructions or advice given to them by the country where they are located in some cases.

Do you UbonJoe seriously even believe what you are saying now?  I find it very strange and unlikeley that Thailand as a nation, and thai people, should listen to, and adhere to, instructions from another countrys people...

 

But hey, what do I know....

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Do you UbonJoe seriously even believe what you are saying now?  I find it very strange and unlikeley that Thailand as a nation, and thai people, should listen to, and adhere to, instructions from another countrys people..

Yes I do believe that a Thai embassy or official consulate will agree to certain instructions or advice when issuing visas to citizens of the country where they are located. There are some countries that want to or do restrict their citizens ability to be travel outside their country.

I did not write as a nation in my post.  Try reading it again.

[JimGant]

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Besides this, YES we have to prove our income at the swedish embassy in Thailand. just like most countrys accept yours and a very few others...

Could you provide a redacted copy of a Swedish income statement that you would use with Thai Immigration? I'm curious as to the wording ("certified income", "verified income", whatever), i.e., how far out on a limb does Sweden go to validate income.....or does it cover itself with wording similar to that of a US income statement, below?:

 

"The U.S. Consulate does not guarantee the contents of my own sworn statement. Under penalty of perjury, I assume full and complete responsibility for the veracity of the claims herein."

 

Thanx.

[lkv]

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

There are some countries that want to or do restrict their citizens ability to be travel outside their country.

I did not write as a nation in my post.  Try reading it again.

Well yeah, but not Sweden. That was exactly the point I was making.

 

Decisions are being made upon the overall wealth of a country, not that some pensioneers actually earn less.

 

The best counter argument here is, in other countries on par with Sweden income wise (pension also), -or even not on par, with less income- there is no such differentiation between nett and gross.

 

Therefore, in my opinion, it's a local thing in Sweden.

 

PS: Also, let's not forget citizens of Sweden can get a non O-X also, which I think says it all about MFA's opinion on Sweden.

[glegolo]

1 hour ago, JimGant said:

Could you provide a redacted copy of a Swedish income statement that you would use with Thai Immigration? I'm curious as to the wording ("certified income", "verified income", whatever), i.e., how far out on a limb does Sweden go to validate income.....or does it cover itself with wording similar to that of a US income statement, below?:

 

"The U.S. Consulate does not guarantee the contents of my own sworn statement. Under penalty of perjury, I assume full and complete responsibility for the veracity of the claims herein."

 

Thanx.

I can not, I do not have a copy, but maybe some other swede have... But if I remember somewhat correctly the affadavit says something like that; "the embassy confirms that the "person" (name and passport number) have shown documents of income from the department of taxes (or what you call it in english) to an amount of SEK; XXXXX  equivalent to xxxxx baht. But this not exact...

 

I personally think that all our embassies cover themselfs in some same way..... But mine demands at least some kind of vouchers not just "I promise to my mother and to God"....

[glegolo]

2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Yes I do believe that a Thai embassy or official consulate will agree to certain instructions or advice when issuing visas to citizens of the country where they are located. There are some countries that want to or do restrict their citizens ability to be travel outside their country.

I did not write as a nation in my post.  Try reading it again.

Are you implying that the swedish people are limited to travel outside their own borders? Do you think we are like the old iron curtain, like the DDR, USSR, Polen, and other east block countries??? Unless you do NOT believe that, than your argument highlighted in the quote is wrong...

 

glegolo

[ubonjoe]

22 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Are you implying that the swedish people are limited to travel outside their own borders?

My post was not specific for Sweden and I wrote some countries to support the first sentence in my post. You took what you commented about out of context.

[lamyai3]

On 9/10/2018 at 10:52 AM, Alex Dudek said:

Hi,

Can someone kindly advise:

    how can I renew my O-A visa and what are the requirements? 
    how many days in advance should I renew?
    how long will it take to process it?
    how much I have to pay for it?

It can't be renewed, but it can be used to obtain yearly extensions of stay. I did mine at Bangkok on Monday, cost is 1900 baht. Can be done up to 45 days before the date stamp expires in your passport in Bangkok, but this varies regionally I think. Although Monday is supposed to be busy I was lucky, arrived at 3pm and had my new one year stamp and a reentry permit all done in slightly over an hour. But I've heard reports it can take hours. Main thing is to get the documents in order well in advance, to allow for the seasoning of monies etc. Here's a very useful thread describing the requirements, I used it as my own checklist:

 

[Andrew Dwyer]

It can't be renewed, but it can be used to obtain yearly extensions of stay. I did mine at Bangkok on Monday, cost is 1900 baht. Can be done up to 45 days before the date stamp expires in your passport in Bangkok, but this varies regionally I think. Although Monday is supposed to be busy I was lucky, arrived at 3pm and had my new one year stamp and a reentry permit all done in slightly over an hour. But I've heard reports it can take hours. Main thing is to get the documents in order well in advance, to allow for the seasoning of monies etc. Here's a very useful thread describing the requirements, I used it as my own checklist:
 

Yes, as you say it varies regionally.

I popped into my immigration ( Ayutthaya ) 29 days before due date to get their requirements.
All pretty much the same as other immigration offices except they require a bank statement not more than 7 days old and an updated bank book not more than 1 day old.
Plus no map to our home requested ( although they might on the day which is not a problem ).

Oh, and also told me to go back on the 20th , 5 days before my due date. !!

My recommendation to the OP would be to visit his immigration beforehand to get the lowdown !! But as he’s not returned to this thread maybe he’s given up ?