Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted September 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2018 (edited) Yesterday my Wife received a ticket for using her phone while driving... but she wasn't using her phone !... At Asoke Junction the BiB pulled her over and told her she was using her phone. She pleaded her case that she wasn't... her phone was plugged in on the centre console... the Policeman said he saw her looking at it, my wife said she'd glanced at the centre console sat nav-dial. I believe my Wife. She lightly argued her case but what could she do... it was a he said - she said situation and once pulled over the BiB are never going to give in. So today, same junction my Wife is pulled over, once again for using her phone. Except her phone was in her handbag on the back seat.... The Policeman still tried to argue that she had been using her phone !!!... quite impossible, but nevertheless he had his catch and wasn't letting it go. But.. without a phone in the front compartment the Police officer could not accuse her of phone usage while driving and admitted he 'may' have made a mistake and that she was probably using the dial on the centre console of the sat-nav. So... it would seem that the BiB are making stuff up - or at least two days in a row they are accusing people of phone usage and it can't be disproven. So.. phones in the hidden away in the centre console box from now on may keep the pesky chancers at bay. *I actually agree with their policy of stopping phone usage while driving - but the BiB are making no effort to get it right !... Edited September 20, 2018 by richard_smith237 6 2 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted September 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2018 Pattaya also out at unusual times ticketing people. maybe their budget has run out so emergency top up needed . 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Briggsy Posted September 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2018 The key to understanding your situation is "same junction". This police officer or his senior officer at Thong Lor Police Station probably needs cash or tickets issued. Each police station acts relatively independently of the others. Of course, your wife could have just produced the ticket from the previous day which under the Thai system gives an inexplicable 7-day no further fines period. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post richard_smith237 Posted September 20, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Briggsy said: The key to understanding your situation is "same junction". This police officer or his senior officer at Thong Lor Police Station probably needs cash or tickets issued. Each police station acts relatively independently of the others. Of course, your wife could have just produced the ticket from the previous day which under the Thai system gives an inexplicable 7-day no further fines period. Yep... after a little back and forth, when asked for her license my Wife presented yesterdays ticket... to which the Police officer said (paraphrase)... "you were also using your phone here yesterday".. of course, my Wife pointed out.. "No... the Police officer made the same mistake you did today and wouldn't accept his mistake... which is why the phone is now in a handbag on the backseat !!!!".... I know we're going to get flamed by the 'holier than thou' brigade but a ticket is fair consider the amount of traffic laws which get stretched or violated on a daily basis by just trying to navigate the city... the first of which is a right turn at the end of my sub-soi which technically is not permitted but everyone does.... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 It is that time of the month again at Asoke junction I see. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Esso49 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Just buy a cheap dome camera and stick it on the headlining of your car. Then when the BiB next stops you and you put your window down, just ask him to smile nicely at the camera and request you go to see his superior at the police station stating you will replay the in-car recording. 14 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post paahlman Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 13 hours ago, Briggsy said: The key to understanding your situation is "same junction". This police officer or his senior officer at Thong Lor Police Station probably needs cash or tickets issued. Each police station acts relatively independently of the others. Of course, your wife could have just produced the ticket from the previous day which under the Thai system gives an inexplicable 7-day no further fines period. I bet you are right.., but I thought it was 24 hours validity? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: . I believe my Wife Smart move. 1 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post siamcrut Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Where I live, I do see Thais using their smartphone while riding a scooter, no one cares. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 14 hours ago, richard_smith237 said: Yep... after a little back and forth, when asked for her license my Wife presented yesterdays ticket... to which the Police officer said (paraphrase)... "you were also using your phone here yesterday".. of course, my Wife pointed out.. "No... the Police officer made the same mistake you did today and wouldn't accept his mistake... which is why the phone is now in a handbag on the backseat !!!!".... I know we're going to get flamed by the 'holier than thou' brigade but a ticket is fair consider the amount of traffic laws which get stretched or violated on a daily basis by just trying to navigate the city... the first of which is a right turn at the end of my sub-soi which technically is not permitted but everyone does.... This is why many locals do not like the BiB..Most know from their life that they are after pocket money. Now if the hierarchy are giving bonuses for ticket issue, which means "legal" payments, we can expect a lot more "stops".. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alant Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 15 hours ago, Briggsy said: Of course, your wife could have just produced the ticket from the previous day which under the Thai system gives an inexplicable 7-day no further fines period. I was told 3 days, clarification anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LennyW Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Christmas is coming, the Mia Noi's have submitted their gift requirements already!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwill Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Must be time to fund the police party 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 On that junction the police also often stops motorcycle drivers without helmet. Yesterday I rode there, with a helmet, and I saw maybe 10 police officers. Most of them looked like new recruits learning the job. They stopped me for no reason and asked for the driver license. I told them I have no license, I have only the paper from the police that I should go to the station and pay a fine to get my driver license back. They looked at the paper, gave it back to me, and that was it. I asked one of the officers and they told me they are training. Officially when the police writes a ticket it must be paid within a week or so. The police collects the license and give the driver the paper. But in my experience it's a good idea to keep that paper forever. Because the next time the police want to see a license there is no license to collect. And that means there is no money to make. And they let you go again... 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 4MyEgo Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 Police road check ahead, officer directs me to the side of the road, you speeding, no, I am using speed control which was set at 75km in an 80km hour speed zone, oh ok then, you then travelling in the wrong lane, right lane for overtaking, you should be in the left lane, couldn't argue with this cop as I knew it was all about the money. He asked me for 400 baht, I said, I will pay in the tent, he said you can pay me, I said no, I will pay in the tent and got out of the car, being about a metre taller and about 40kg heavier than him, he didn't argue. The guy at the tent smiled at me and said where you from, I said Timbuktoo, near Ulladulla, he just smiled while I gave him my license and issued me with the ticket, 400 baht please, so little I said to him as I pulled out 20k baht from my right pocket, the officer outside wanted me to pay him, but I said no, with a smile, maybe he want to put it in his pocket with the cop issuing me with the ticket all of a sudden having a serious look on his face. Chicken feed really, not going to get upset over it, corruption is rip in Thailand and you have to throw your principals out the window for such a small amount, I do believe in KARMA, who knows maybe someone will mow this guy over one day ? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 15 hours ago, BestB said: Pattaya also out at unusual times ticketing people. maybe their budget has run out so emergency top up needed . No.....it's just pure greed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 so it is illegal to use your phone with google maps to navigate? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 what is it with those a hole Asoke police? rotten to the core! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elgenon Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 I have seen BiB texting while driving mb. Can I do a farang's arrest? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 After the OP mentioned Asoke junction, the BIB, and a "fine", the rest of his post was superfluous. Interesting story, but it was completely irrelevant. Fortunately, Asoke junction and the Thong Lo district is only a percent or two of Bangkok's area. Unfortunately, some people just can't avoid it. For example, I worked there for 6 years. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickmondo Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, siamcrut said: Where I live, I do see Thais using their smartphone while riding a scooter, no one cares. I have seen cops in Hua Hin texting when on their scooters. MANY TIMES 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ks45672 Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 20 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Police road check ahead, officer directs me to the side of the road, you speeding, no, I am using speed control which was set at 75km in an 80km hour speed zone, oh ok then, you then travelling in the wrong lane, right lane for overtaking, you should be in the left lane, couldn't argue with this cop as I knew it was all about the money. He asked me for 400 baht, I said, I will pay in the tent, he said you can pay me, I said no, I will pay in the tent and got out of the car, being about a metre taller and about 40kg heavier than him, he didn't argue. The guy at the tent smiled at me and said where you from, I said Timbuktoo, near Ulladulla, he just smiled while I gave him my license and issued me with the ticket, 400 baht please, so little I said to him as I pulled out 20k baht from my right pocket, the officer outside wanted me to pay him, but I said no, with a smile, maybe he want to put it in his pocket with the cop issuing me with the ticket all of a sudden having a serious look on his face. Chicken feed really, not going to get upset over it, corruption is rip in Thailand and you have to throw your principals out the window for such a small amount, I do believe in KARMA, who knows maybe someone will mow this guy over one day ? As if being taller and heavier would have scared a cop who has a gun on his hip... ? 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: As if being taller and heavier would have scared a cop who has a gun on his hip... ? Gun on his hip or not, he was taking steps backwards as he would FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Vacuum Posted September 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: As if being taller and heavier would have scared a cop who has a gun on his hip... ? ......don't forget the 20k he was flashing. A real hi-so. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 30 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: I will pay in the tent and got out of the car, being about a metre taller and about 40kg heavier than him, he didn't argue. Just curious as to how your size compared to that of the cop relates to the matter? Did you anticipate a physical confrontation? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ks45672 said: As if being taller and heavier would have scared a cop who has a gun on his hip... ? 11 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said: Gun on his hip or not, he was taking steps backwards as he would FYI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, watcharacters said: Just curious as to how your size compared to that of the cop relates to the matter? Did you anticipate a physical confrontation? Sounds like an Inflated sense of self importance.. ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ks45672 Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: so it is illegal to use your phone with google maps to navigate? Yes, if your phone is in your hand you can get a ticket, doesn't matter if you are on Facebook,WhatsApp, Google maps or anything else If it's mounted though, I think it's fine hands free kits were still legal last I checked for making or taking calls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 48 minutes ago, NCC1701A said: so it is illegal to use your phone with google maps to navigate? I suspect it could be unless you have your phone mounted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted September 21, 2018 Author Share Posted September 21, 2018 56 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: On that junction the police also often stops motorcycle drivers without helmet. Yesterday I rode there, with a helmet, and I saw maybe 10 police officers. Most of them looked like new recruits learning the job. They stopped me for no reason and asked for the driver license. I told them I have no license, I have only the paper from the police that I should go to the station and pay a fine to get my driver license back. They looked at the paper, gave it back to me, and that was it. I asked one of the officers and they told me they are training. Officially when the police writes a ticket it must be paid within a week or so. The police collects the license and give the driver the paper. But in my experience it's a good idea to keep that paper forever. Because the next time the police want to see a license there is no license to collect. And that means there is no money to make. And they let you go again... The insanity of living in a country where the receipt for receiving a ticket is potentially of more use than your license.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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