One dead in Phoenix boat salvage operations

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One dead in Phoenix boat salvage operations

By The Thaiger

 

 

The salvage operations for the ‘Phoenix’ have become mired in poor arrangements and unsuitable weather since operations began several months ago. Now, one person has died during the operations.

 

On September 29, around noon, 37 year old Nipat ‘Jos’ Gladnak died during the salvage operation. It’s reported that Khun Nipat fainted whilst standing at the back of the salvage boat. He fell off the boat into the water. He was immediately retrieved from water and rushed to Vachira Phuket Hospital but was later pronounced dead.

 

Khun Nipat was from Chumphon. He was working for a company contracted to assist in the salvage operation.  We was working on the project since the Phoenix was discovered underwater. He also helped to search for belongings of Phoenix boat victims and getting the salvaged property back to the survivors. His body has been repatriated to Chumphon.

 

Full story: https://thethaiger.com/news/phuket/one-dead-in-phoenix-boat-salvage-operations

 

-- © Copyright The Thaiger 2018-10-02

[LivinginKata]

Bound to happen in what appears to be a mickey mouse salvage operation. 

[worgeordie]

RIP to the dead man, it looks like they are trying to winch

the boat up from the stern of the ship,that way it's never

fully going to be out of the water,I thought that they would 

need a floating crane to lift the vessel to the surface,pump

the water out,boat should float again.who is paying for the

salvage operation?,

regards Worgeordie

[rebo]

Photo shows the dilettantism of the operation in its entire brightness even though it's most probably only the notorious tip of the iceberg ...

[Cadbury]

58 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

RIP to the dead man, it looks like they are trying to winch

the boat up from the stern of the ship,that way it's never

fully going to be out of the water,I thought that they would 

need a floating crane to lift the vessel to the surface,pump

the water out,boat should float again.who is paying for the

salvage operation?,

regards Worgeordie

Interesting question about who is paying for it. My bet is future Chinese boat tourists will be picking up the tab one way or another.

Probably increased fare prices to cover insurance premiums and levies and any shortfalls on the insured amount; or even lifejacket hire or lifeboat surcharge. No stone will be left unturned to recover the costs.

[wotsdermatter]

Another failing in the Thai culture is highlighted here.  Very few Thais are familiar with any kind of First Aid and even less have knowledge of artificial resuscitation, etc.  I have been to locations were defib units have been provided and nobody has been able to use them because they were never taught and because the Thais do not want to know and never asked how they should/could be used.

 

'nuf sed 

[Daffy D]

Hope they complete the operation soon.

 

That salvage vessel don't look like its going to say afloat much longer its' self.

 

One accidental knock from the swinging crane thingy and it will go down right next to the boat it's supposed to be rescuing.

 

 

 

Edited October 2, 2018 by Daffy D

[happy chappie]

my wife said it's boat ghosts,I said so it ain't the lottery ghost then.im in some sort of

a voodoo time warp here in the jungle.

[Jimi007]

15 hours ago, LivinginKata said:

Bound to happen in what appears to be a mickey mouse salvage operation. 

Exactly! I have been wondering when it would happen, not if. Now their plan is to drag the boat into shallower water. Brilliant! Why not use air bags instead of a crane? I'm guessing these clowns have no clue what they are doing. Another TIT moment.

[beechbum]

Standing on the hook, hands on the pulley, people sitting under the back of the crane, most wearing runners....an HSE officer could have a field day....if there was one there!!

[Oziex1]

Sad to hear of a worker killed in his work place.

 

Oh, Thailand you better raise the Phoenix, or it might just become a metaphor for your tourist industry.

[pattayadgw]

Very sad to hear... R.I.P.  Leave the damn boat where it is.... before more people die.

[ChrisY1]

The RTN have salvage equipment....barge cranes, seal divers and etc.....

It's not difficult to raise a sunken vessel.....but there clowns seem to make it a monumental task and now a fatality of a crew member.

No doubt there's money involved.

[fxe1200]

If an offering to the Phi Tay Hong spirits in the water is not sufficient, there must be an exorcism performed to drive away these bad spirits. That is probably the only way to come to a safe and successful operation.

[Blackheart1916]

Is that vessel in the pic the salvage ship or the sunken ship? Hard to tell from the condition!!

[Lupatria]

Now I wait for the statement of an 'official' saying the place is haunted, after he saw spirits dancing in the night on the surface and heard 'mor lam' from the depth of the sea.

[Esso49]

40 minutes ago, fxe1200 said:

If an offering to the Phi Tay Hong spirits in the water is not sufficient, there must be an exorcism performed to drive away these bad spirits. That is probably the only way to come to a safe and successful operation.

Maybe a another, but bigger, donation to the big Thai spirit who gave those cowboy salvers the job would help.

[poohy]

Salvage is expensive dangerous work

i sense maybe ( a scandalous thought i must admit and i will flagellate myself  with wet copy of the nation for even thinking such) its being,or trying to be done on "the cheap"

obviously leading to the present results 

[oldrunner]

Old fear of helping accident/unconscious victim and they die, they will haunt you forever. Reason zillion of Thais refuse to learn how to swim, go into the water yes, learn how to swim or help someone in distress no.

[NamKangMan]

On 10/3/2018 at 11:37 AM, fxe1200 said:

If an offering to the Phi Tay Hong spirits in the water is not sufficient, there must be an exorcism performed to drive away these bad spirits. That is probably the only way to come to a safe and successful operation.

 

Yes, send a Monk out to the site, he will do a chant, and then all is good to carry on, until the next death.  Then repeat. 

[Classic Ray]

I bet Elon Musk has a solution. Invite him back when he sobers up and see if he suggests using the tube from the cave rescue!

[jaideedave]

On 10/3/2018 at 4:15 AM, beechbum said:

Standing on the hook, hands on the pulley, people sitting under the back of the crane, most wearing runners....an HSE officer could have a field day....if there was one there!!

I'm a retired HSE Officer "offshore" and spotted half a dozen "Stop Card" infractions in less than a minute.

[YTP]

On 10/2/2018 at 4:16 PM, wotsdermatter said:

Another failing in the Thai culture is highlighted here.  Very few Thais are familiar with any kind of First Aid and even less have knowledge of artificial resuscitation, etc.  I have been to locations were defib units have been provided and nobody has been able to use them because they were never taught and because the Thais do not want to know and never asked how they should/could be used.

 

'nuf sed 

Well, I don't know how to use a defib unit either.

 

Took lifesaving swimming courses with emerg resuscitation in my earlier years and I don't remember much to be honest.

[beechbum]

Most defib units talk you through the procedure.

[stevenl]

21 hours ago, jaideedave said:

I'm a retired HSE Officer "offshore" and spotted half a dozen "Stop Card" infractions in less than a minute.

Yes, and now let's talk about how we object to all the rules and regulations back home.

 

Having said that, this salvage is beyond belief, and should have been done professionally from the beginning. I am tec trained, so are a few others in the area, but no way any of us will get involved with this operation.

[geriatrickid]

On 10/2/2018 at 5:16 AM, wotsdermatter said:

Another failing in the Thai culture is highlighted here.  Very few Thais are familiar with any kind of First Aid and even less have knowledge of artificial resuscitation, etc.  I have been to locations were defib units have been provided and nobody has been able to use them because they were never taught and because the Thais do not want to know and never asked how they should/could be used.

 

'nuf sed 

Not too many westerners possess the knowledge you expect of Thais.  Walk through most any western airport which has a defibrillator unit available, and very few people will know what to do with it, despite there being voice prompts.   You don't know how the man died, but the story suggests that this was a sudden cardiac death. The man was immediately retrieved after he collapsed.  There isn't much one can do in these cases when the heart  goes. I'd focus more on the absence of safety gear including flotation gear worn by the workers. The barges these clowns are using are in  wretched shape and I doubt they would pass a proper safety  certification.

 

 

[neeray]

On ‎10‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 5:16 AM, wotsdermatter said:

Another failing in the Thai culture is highlighted here.  Very few Thais are familiar with any kind of First Aid and even less have knowledge of artificial resuscitation, etc.  I have been to locations were defib units have been provided and nobody has been able to use them because they were never taught and because the Thais do not want to know and never asked how they should/could be used.

 

'nuf sed 

 

And I assume that you are fully capable of using  "First Aid and ...... artificial resuscitation, etc."

Yes ?

Good for you. 

[Old Croc]

I find it amazing at times that people here will talk for ever about the incompetency of Thais, but will accept their explanations of sudden death and the way it is written about in local rags.

[Old Croc]

On ‎10‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 6:08 PM, oldrunner said:

Old fear of helping accident/unconscious victim and they die, they will haunt you forever. Reason zillion of Thais refuse to learn how to swim, go into the water yes, learn how to swim or help someone in distress no.

I don't know where you are from, but swimming lessons were part of the curriculum where I came from.  

Do they have swimming programs in basic Thailand schools 

[stevenl]

17 minutes ago, neeray said:

 

And I assume that you are fully capable of using  "First Aid and ...... artificial resuscitation, etc."

Yes ?

Good for you. 

Yes, I would trust him with his medical knowledge. Less so though about knowledge of diving accidents and salvage operations.