Beware of marijuana being misused if it’s legalised, says Thai expert

[Winky Wilson]

Cannabis legalization is perfectly fine as long as it is kept out of the hands of minors.  Cannabis and alcohol are a bad combination as well.

[HAKAPALITA]

All i can add . My first try was a disasters. Paper Flared, burnt Noes and hole in shirt. Never bothered since, but must admit friends who do are far more pleasant than my Boozy ones. Personally i tended to get very aggressive on Beer, whilst Smoker chums just talked crap.

[wvavin]

How is this even possible? Thais are very disciplined, compassionate and law abiding.

[orientalist]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

He explained that it will be difficult to control the substance once it is declared legal for medical purposes, because some people might start complaining about pain just to get their hands on the narcotic.

 

Absolute nonsense. There are primarily two substances of interest in the cannabis plant: CBD, which has most of the medical benefits and doesn't get you stoned; THC which gets you stoned. There are rare types of seizure that benefit from CBD+THC but there wouldn't be much money in that. The main moneyspinner would be CBD, which can work well for depression, epilepsy, other seizures, neuralgia and other types of neuropathic pain. Typically, CBD comes from a type of cannabis plant (eg hemp) with high amounts of CBD and minuscule amounts of THC. So there is no chance at all of stoners claiming aches and pains to get high on it.

 

The main problem for the government, as I see it, is that legal hemp farms could easily grow (and sell) regular cannabis without it being detected.

 

Initially, all they have to do is make cannabis extracts legal ONLY if they contain less than 0.x% of THC.

[ParadiseLost]

I like South Africa's solution - It is now legal to grow (not sure how many plants), and consume weed in a private residence. It is still illegal to sell, or carry. Allowing pot smokers to grow their own supply reduces the demand on illegal sources, which can only be a good thing.

 

Home grown plus legal medical weed should be the first step, long before fully legalised weed. Canada is experiencing a big shortage in supply, which is benefiting black market suppliers. The supply should definitely be in place before the demand comes.

[ParadiseLost]

29 minutes ago, jrjrjr said:

Weed will be everywhere soon, for medical purpose or recreational, and nobody will be able to stop it. Fiick every single cop who was making money on innocent foreigners who had been smoking weed in this country.

While I support your sentiment, I have to say there are tens of thousands of Thais who get sent down for pretty minor (weed) offenses, as they don't have the option, or the means to bribe their way out of it. Legalising weed will have a far greater benefit to locals, than any foreigner.

 

Don't expect coffee shops, like Amsterdam; not for a long time, sadly. But hopefully there will be better tunes in the karaoke bars...

[digger70]

4 hours ago, MrPatrickThai said:

If ganja had been legal 40 years ago, I wouldn't have taken class A drugs. it was the dealers that encouraged me to take them.

No one FORCED you to USE/TAKE drugs,,,, your just got no Wont power ,,,(know when to say no),,,,

what you say is just cop out bull shit.

[Chrisswe]

Agree, in an undeveloped country where corruption is an main issue , this can end up in an main problem together allready JaBa !!!

[ParadiseLost]

24 minutes ago, See Will said:

Why nobody has shown me the movie as I was young? 

Would have protected me to become the person I am now.  

 

..I was sitting in front of Aldi with my beer can explaining to people a "no future philosophy".

Then a 15 years Weed "carrier" started in the Netherlands.. 

 

Now a well known Consultant, highly respected by my clients, quick in finding solutions, calm approach and a pleasure to work with... (says at least my last reference of work)..

Unfortunately the risk of drugs tests keeping me from further development of myself..

 

I have never met anyone 'addicted' to weed...

 

Paranoid maybe? Or maybe it is an easy excuse for not changing your habits. Perhaps beer is a bigger problem?

 

If you are happy in your life then why care about what you 'could be' ...is the advice I am constantly giving myself.

[55Jay]

20 minutes ago, See Will said:

Why nobody has shown me the movie as I was young? 

Would have protected me to become the person I am now.  

 

..I was sitting in front of Aldi with my beer can explaining to people a "no future philosophy".

Then a 15 years Weed "carrier" started in the Netherlands.. 

 

Now a well known Consultant, highly respected by my clients, quick in finding solutions, calm approach and a pleasure to work with... (says at least my last reference of work)..

Unfortunately the risk of drugs tests keeping me from further development of myself..

I would still be a proponent of regulations in the work place.  Don't want the employees turning up drunk or stoned, or, drunk AND stoned.   But when it's time to wind down with no serious agenda the next day, smokin' a little bit of weed is fairly benign vs. slamming a bunch of beers/whiskey (whatever) and getting drunk.    Pro is there's no hang over with weed, and it doesn't make you fat.... except the munchies - that'll do it. ????   

 

No matter what any pro-weed enthusiast says though, it's just not good to inhale by-products of combustion, and that includes marijuana.   Inhaling the hot smoke from shit that's on fire, is never good fer yer lungs. 

[55Jay]

Just now, 55Jay said:

Inhaling the hot smoke from shit that's on fire, is never good fer yer lungs. 

Which is why god invented water bongs.  ????

[lust]

People argue that if weed is legalized that people are going to show up to work high. Seriously, can you go to work drunk? Can you go to work when you’re on oxy, Valium, or under the influence of any drug? If you get high at work you would get fired just like if you went to work drunk.

 

amazing how so many dinosaurs who had the anti-marijuana propaganda shoved down their throats still love the regurgitate the same facts that have disproven many times yet they refuse to acknowledge it. Lol, must really suck to be someone like that. 

[sead]

And this is going to be the only reason dear Pm needs to rethink and stop it. Just wait and see.

[off road pat]

8 hours ago, yellowboat said:

You beat me to it.  He is right the junta generate a plan, but planning, clarity, discussions just aint their style, just barge and bungle along. 

 

In the US, girl scouts are not allowed to sell their cookies within 200 yards of a cannabis dispensary.  Thailand could adopt similar rules for food vendors as well.  

Rules, rules, rules,...Is Thailand so strong in enforcing rules ???

[bananafish]

Some asked what countries have legalized it, I made a post listing a bunch of western countries that have legalized it, directly answering an asked question, and my post got deleted. 

 

This has happened to me quite a few times lately, totally innocuous and relevant posts of mine disappearing, why?

[Berkshire]

This doctor shouldn't even be cited as an "expert" on marijuana.  His views are simply outdated.  Wish I could ask him if cigarettes and alcohol should be outlawed.  Of course doctors should discourage pot smoking, cigarette smoking, and even alcohol.  But draconian laws are just impractical and nonsensical and violates our most basic freedom of choice.  It just seems like Asia in general is pretty backwards when it comes to marijuana.  Heck, look what S. Korea is doing about Canada's new marijuana law...

 

[“Weed smokers will be punished according to the Korean law, even if they did so in countries where smoking marijuana is legal. There won’t be an exception...."  South Korean law is based on the concept that laws made in Seoul still apply to citizens anywhere in the world, and violations, even while abroad, can technically lead to punishment when they return home. Those who smoke weed could face up to five years in prison. ]

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/oct/23/bong-arm-of-the-law-south-korea-says-it-will-arrest-citizens-who-smoke-weed-in-canada

[farcanell]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

“I don’t know if they are looking for research funds or if they have any hidden agenda,

It’s a definite conspiracy!

 

fifty baht for KFC to deliver two 50 baht fish burgers round my place.

 

ronald Macdonald need to get on board the wacky backy bus ????

[Naamblar2014]

6 minutes ago, farcanell said:

It’s a definite conspiracy!

 

fifty baht for KFC to deliver two 50 baht fish burgers round my place.

 

ronald Macdonald need to get on board the wacky backy bus ????

That's nothing.  I ordered 14 Pizza's the other day.  Went into the store to pickup and they wanted to charge 50 baht for delivery

[Galactus]

such an ignorant person.

 

 

[user343434]

Just now, Naamblar2014 said:

That's nothing.  I ordered 14 Pizza's the other day.  Went into the store to pickup and they wanted to charge 50 baht for delivery

Off topic ... 

or may be not, 14 Pizzas after sparking one up seems that the upcoming appetite overmanned you.. 

[55Jay]

1 minute ago, Naamblar2014 said:

That's nothing.  I ordered 14 Pizza's the other day.  Went into the store to pickup and they wanted to charge 50 baht for delivery

Yes, they do that for 10 or more "pizza's".  ????

[natway09]

Thira,,,,,, Have you tried it ??

[mrfill]

9 hours ago, jonclark said:

2Prior to 1979 the sale and consumption Marijuana was legal in Thailand....maybe that is why Thailand was once known as the land of smiles.

 

 

Except the Marijuana Act was passed in 1934 and it has been illegal since then.

[kwilco]

Thailand is the hub of quackery and legalising "medical marijuana" will open the door to every quack and charlatan in the region - they must be rubbing their hands and preparing their BS websites as we speak.

[mrfill]

7 hours ago, Misterwhisper said:

Really? Which "many countries" would that be, Mr. Thira?

 

As far as I am aware (and I am not a "Thai expert"), there is only a tiny handful of countries that has approved marijuana (or cannabinoids) for medicinal use, and even fewer have completely legalized it.

 

 

How's this for 'a tiny handful' that use it medicinally.. Quite a large tiny hand really....

 

Of course though, this list is way shorter than those countries which use opium based medicines...

 

Argentina	Germany	Netherlands
Australia	Greece	Norway
Canada	Israel	Peru
Chile	Italy	Poland
Colombia	Jamaica	Romania
Croatia	Lesotho	San Marino
Cyprus	Luxembourg	Switzerland
Czech Republic	Macedonia	Turkey
Denmark	Malta	Uruguay
Finland	Mexico	Zimbabwe

[dallen52]

I thought the tests were already done, and crops are being established for medicinal purposes. 

 

Initial findings were. 

Dumb, and more dumber.

(But legally dumber).

 

It's hard enough to get a straight answer now, without any legalised contribution.

I.e. wacky backy.

[dallen52]

20 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

Yes, they do that for 10 or more "pizza's".  ????

Maybe because they had to walk to the pizza oven 14 times.

[dallen52]

32 minutes ago, Naamblar2014 said:

That's nothing.  I ordered 14 Pizza's the other day.  Went into the store to pickup and they wanted to charge 50 baht for delivery

The difference is that pizza hut you don't need a university education,  just bang 50 baht on. 

Where as 7/11 (as mentioned in other threads) have university education and use more calculated means to fiddle you.

[55Jay]

28 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Thailand is the hub of quackery and legalising "medical marijuana" will open the door to every quack and charlatan in the region - they must be rubbing their hands and preparing their BS websites as we speak.

Rumor has it there's a Thai medicine man living in a tree house up in Chiang Rai, who grows an ancient, secret strain of marijuana that helps makes your skin whiter.  It's true, you can look it up on Facebook.  ????

[Somnambulist]

How does one mis-use it?  Put it in hot water and drink it like tea?  

Surely that will not be a widespread problem, so the good doctor need not worry.