'Drugs, alcohol behind violence'

By THE NATION

 

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Respondents also name family life, upbringing as causes; urge stricter enforcement of law.
 

MANY THAIS believe drug abuse and alcohol consumption are the most common causes of violence, a recent large-scale survey showed. 

 

The authorities have designated November as the month to campaign for an end to violence against women and children.

 

Statistics show that so far this year, at least six people every day have been a victim of violence. Of the 2,710 victims reported – most of them youths – 1,774 suffered violence at the hands of their own relatives. Of the total victims, 2,043 were women. 

 

“The respondents also put violence down to upbringing problems, association with the wrong type of people and stress,” Porametee Vimolsiri, permanent secretary at the Ministry for Social Development and Human Security, said yesterday. 

 

His ministry’s survey unit collaborated with NIDA Poll to conduct a survey on 4,800 respondents over the past two months. 

 

When asked about violence in Thai society, more than half of the respondents mentioned brawls and physical assault, while 52.6 per cent said domestic violence significantly fostered aggressive behaviour and suppression of emotion among children. 

 

When asked whether media encourages people to act aggressively because of their violent content, respondents pointed the finger at YouTube for allegedly spawning copycats followed by social media and TV soap operas. 

 

As for what they would do upon witnessing violent incidents, most respondents said they would alert the police. 

 

Some 53.07 per cent added that strict enforcement of the law was a good way to solve violence problems, while some 48.81 per cent said good family relations and inculcation of proper attitudes were the solutions. 

 

As for what they would do to end violence in society, 26.27 per cent said they will suppress violence within themselves, while 25.29 per cent said they will not react when angry. 

 

Meanwhile, 42.79 per cent said it was their duty to curb violence in society, while 34.06 per cent said this was a family duty. 

 

Saranya Chittangwong, adviser to a UN Women project, said the very fact that 40 per cent of the respondents were willing to help end violence made her happy. “So, we should provide information on what people can do when they witness violence.” 

 

Leartpanya Buranabandit, who heads the Department of Women’s Affairs and Family Development, said all parties must start inculcating the right attitude if violence is to be brought to a complete end. 

 

“It’s best to start at a young age. If people understand and adopt the sense of gender equality, respect for law and emotional control from a young age, they won’t be violent,” he said. 

 

Chadet Chaowilai, director of Women and Men Progressive Movement Foundation, said society should understand that attitude matters the most. 

 

“Alcohol and drugs are just stimulants,” he pointed out. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30358883

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-20

3 minutes ago, webfact said:

'Drugs, alcohol behind violence'

Loss of face and rejection must be high up there too ?

Yep, loss of face is number 1. The rest are like number 20 and 21.

 

The cause?  Not really, but certainly can be a factor.  As in most problems there are other things involved.  crap job, crap living arrangement, no money, no resources to allow one to go out an do something.   Stress builds.

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MANY THAIS believe drug abuse and alcohol consumption are the most common causes of violence

All total BS,  it's loss of face,

and there inability to except responsibility for there own actions or inactions.

just like when a baby throws its toys out the pram,  when it doesn't get its own way. 

Grow up, people of Thailand. 

 

Ps  Rage is always bubbling under the thin veneer in Thailand.

nothing to do with Drugs or Alcohol.

 

 

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Chadet Chaowilai, director of Women and Men Progressive Movement Foundation, said society should understand that attitude matters the most. 

 

“Alcohol and drugs are just stimulants,” he pointed out. 

so true; not pointed in the main article is that thai males are insecure and non-introspective and , essentially, irresponsible; they, in general, lack real sense of self worth and thus act-out against others

In the end, we are all responsible for our own actions.  I have seen high school males get a bit too rough with their female classmates.  Somehow it seems the problem is larger than substance abuse. 

2 hours ago, webfact said:

52.6 per cent said domestic violence significantly fostered aggressive behaviour and suppression of emotion among children. 

...and as a logical consequence rattan waving teachers will also be punished and banned from schools for life?

1 hour ago, stanleycoin said:

All total BS,  it's loss of face,

and there inability to except responsibility for there own actions or inactions.

just like when a baby throws its toys out the pram,  when it doesn't get its own way. 

Grow up, people of Thailand. 

 

Ps  Rage is always bubbling under the thin veneer in Thailand.

nothing to do with Drugs or Alcohol.

 

 

you got some evidence to back up that claim? And no I don't mean some stories on TVF 

7 minutes ago, PremiumLane said:

you got some evidence to back up that claim? And no I don't mean some stories on TVF 

No.

just 20 years living here . so what do i know.

Next . 

 

Ps Think this is classic Thai rage manifesting  in this clip,

what do you think it is. ? 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNNkNzqurc

 

don,t forget this is one of the biggest killers in thailand for thais and farangs.drink and drugs. add alittle local in the mix and you know why it is so high

3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Loss of face and rejection must be high up there too ?

But if they list "Loss of face" as top 1 (Which it is), they would loss face.......

(And then they can not blame foreigners)

 

TIT

Guess what...so does the rest of the world?

Per capita milk is consumed less than average beer  in Thailand, what do you expect ? ????????

2 hours ago, gk10002000 said:

The cause?  Not really, but certainly can be a factor.  As in most problems there are other things involved.  crap job, crap living arrangement, no money, no resources to allow one to go out an do something.   Stress builds.

Yep it's a factor at best. Alcohol and drugs are a tool, the user defines how the end results pans out, not the tool itself. If you're an angry, violent person by nature, alcohol is surely going to exaggerate that 

3 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Loss of face and rejection must be high up there too ?

By my reading, that is exactly what he said in the last two sentences.

Chadet Chaowilai, director of Women and Men Progressive Movement Foundation, said society should understand that attitude matters the most. “Alcohol and drugs are just stimulants,” he pointed out. 

I didn't read the article but came straight to the comments. What a hoot. Why did they bother with a survey and why do they bother with looking at violence in other parts of the world? The experts are here on Thai Visa dot com.

 

Loss of face. That's the one. Alcohol and drugs are down at 20 and 21. Someone's lived here for 20 years and points us to a video as proof of his profound knowledge and cultural understanding.

 

The spelling and grammar of these experts is astounding. Makes me laugh too: after all of your superior education and insights.

1 hour ago, PremiumLane said:

you got some evidence to back up that claim? And no I don't mean some stories on TVF 

If you live here you will have seen the Asian epidemic of insanely spoiled sons (and now with available contraception, often daughters) with delusions of grandeur about their place in life and what the rest of society owes them in particular.  In my (adopted family) it has ruined 

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Loss of face and rejection must be high up there too ?

Loss of face requires alcohol to reduce the anxiety. And of course then it's widely accepted to blame the alcohol.

...but not the people themselves.....

 

...555....

The combination of yabba & Lao khao plus the fragile Thai ego equals explosive violence at the least excuse, You see this all over the country particularly at any bar/party post about 11 30PM 

It doesn't help that Thais are subjected to excessive amounts of violence (and bad acting and false moustaches) every day at all hours on their soaps. Men slapping women, intimated sexual assaults, women slapping women and all and sundry running around with guns. And the kids watch these regularly.

 

And not a drug, cigarette or alcoholic drink to be seen1

4 hours ago, Thaiwrath said:

Loss of face and rejection must be high up there too ?

"Loss of Face" is a drug.

The cause?

No way!

A catalyst?

Sure!

The main causes are education, traditions, religion and "Thainess"- although no one would ever admit to that!

Even though alcohol or drugs were probably involved in this incident, I think the graphic violence that seems to be featured on Thai TV news broadcasts has to be another factor. Take the criminal beating of a teen boy on last evenings news, shown in totality. 3 or 4 other youths took tall wooden stools & beat the boy all over his body with it, while others were kicking him in the head and abdomen. When another passing vehicle stopped to assist, the driver was also attacked by the gang of hoodlums.  The news channel played the complete clip twice. This practice of showing the voilence needs to be stopped as it has been in 'civilized' countries.

4 hours ago, webfact said:

His ministry’s survey unit collaborated with NIDA Poll to conduct a survey on 4,800 respondents over the past two months. 

Apart from this anecdotal survey there is the 2007 WHO/WKC Thailand National Report on Violence and Health

http://www.who.int/violence_injury_prevention/violence/national_activities/report_violence_and_health_in_thailand.pdf

It focuses on Self-Inflicted Violence vs Interpersonal Violence. It identified Weaknesses/problems/obstacles/development needs for each.

Without going into details, my summation is that the issue of violence in Thailand is a broad societal problem that filtrates down through cultural and traditional flaws in religion, governance and human rights. As such there can be no "one-size fits all" solution nor incremental reforms.

 

3 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

All total BS,  it's loss of face,

and there inability to except responsibility for there own actions or inactions.

just like when a baby throws its toys out the pram,  when it doesn't get its own way. 

Grow up, people of Thailand. 

 

Ps  Rage is always bubbling under the thin veneer in Thailand.

nothing to do with Drugs or Alcohol.

 

 

Yes, but to a greater or lesser extent, booze & drugs probably have a lot to answer for in most societies in the World, and no one likes a drink more than I do!

 

I've known some really nice blokes/good friends who could turn into monsters when drunk. Often wondered how their families fare when they get home from the pub?!

 

Although I can be quite a big boozer, I don't tend to get "narky" when drunk, I tend to be a happy-drunk!

Drugs and alcohol are obviously a contributing factor but, it is the repressive upbringing and in most cases a lack of education, which is repressive in its self, which is the main problem. From the Hi, So's down, it is repression all the way to keep the masses under control.

1 hour ago, Easy Come Easy Go said:

Yep it's a factor at best. Alcohol and drugs are a tool, the user defines how the end results pans out, not the tool itself. If you're an angry, violent person by nature, alcohol is surely going to exaggerate that 

Agreed! If you're a walking time -bomb so to speak, alcohol/ drugs will certainly exaggerate that trait and may end badly as opposed to a "mellow" drunk. Some people can't obviously hold their liquor- so to speak and can lead to acting out that anger...resentment....and sometimes violent behavior. Good point Easy Come:)

2 hours ago, stanleycoin said:

No.

just 20 years living here . so what do i know.

Next . 

 

Ps Think this is classic Thai rage manifesting  in this clip,

what do you think it is. ? 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNNkNzqurc

 

Gullible idiots!