Trump ex-lawyer pleads guilty to lying about Moscow tower project

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Sure looks that way.  Tis the season and all that...

 

That list is the report I presume! That list has to go through Rosentein and Mr. Wittaker! Before it's made public it will be decimated  and picked apart  by the Rudy's and Floods of the world.

[FritsSikkink]

43 minutes ago, riclag said:

Your right about beans but Mueller was hired to investigate Russian Collusion to interfere in the 2016 election ! The beans don't amount to anything but process crimes. Cohen lied to the congress

_{"The Trump legal team cast Cohen as a flawed character whose word is meaningless"}

_{Yet he was the personal lawyer of Trump (who only hires the best people according to himself) for 10 years.}

[Berkshire]

25 minutes ago, riclag said:

That list is the report I presume! That list has to go through Rosentein and Mr. Wittaker! Before it's made public it will be decimated  and picked apart  by the Rudy's and Floods of the world.

You can only hope.  One thing that has become abundantly clear is that Mueller is much smarter than Trump.  These silly little games with Whitaker and nutty Rudy, and repeating "no collusion," "hoax," "witchhunt," etc., over and over again is juvenile and doesn't phase Mueller even a little bit.  The dude is all business.  Justice will be served. 

[Ulic]

Looking like a sad-sack in that picture. Things just got away on him. Enjoy club FED.

[helpisgood]

53 minutes ago, riclag said:

Honestly Chopper, I love the thought of Change,it's new and progressive! But there ain't no evidence! Except process crimes! I do realize you and others have a right to your opinion

 

There's a reason why a process crime can be a felony, if not a misdemeanor.  It's not the same as a traffic ticket.  

 

If one is doing time in prison for doing a process crime, it surely will not feel as trivial to that person as you seem to make it out to be.  

 

PS, summon the ghost of Richard Nixon and ask him if a process crime (obstruction of justice) is trivial.

Edited November 30, 2018 by helpisgood
typo and added PS

[riclag]

6 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You can only hope.  One thing that has become abundantly clear is that Mueller is much smarter than Trump.  These silly little games with Whitaker and nutty Rudy, and repeating "no collusion," "hoax," "witchhunt," etc., over and over again is juvenile and doesn't phase Mueller even a little bit.  The dude is all business.  Justice will be served. 

Mr. Cohen lied .  No evidence that ties PT to anything ! He want's to get a reduce sentence !

[UncleTouchyFingers]

49 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Something to keep in mind.

 

Trump has an acute narcissistic personality disorder, people with NPD fear one thing above all else ‘being exposed and humiliated’.

 

Trump’s behaviour now is his NPD playing out, he’s in utter personal turmoil.

 

Those expecting Trump to hand out pardons or protect people who have been loyal to him (including his own children) are in for a disappointment.

 

Trump is thrashing about desperately trying to escape being exposed and humiliated, he hasn’t an ounce of thought for anyone else.

 

Brace yourself for a months long extinction burst like you’ve never even dreamed could be possible.

 

If you are worried that Trump may go un-punished (he will not), then for the time being observe the agony he’s going through now and the spectacle of him going completely insane in the months ahead.

 

LOL You libs have been saying this same crap for like 2 years now. Never ceases to amaze me that you guys still jump on it like its the end of Trump as soon as "BREAKING" News gives you your latest serving. 

[UncleTouchyFingers]

16 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

You can only hope.  One thing that has become abundantly clear is that Mueller is much smarter than Trump.  These silly little games with Whitaker and nutty Rudy, and repeating "no collusion," "hoax," "witchhunt," etc., over and over again is juvenile and doesn't phase Mueller even a little bit.  The dude is all business.  Justice will be served. 

 

See thats the thing, you guys dont even try to hide it. Look for a crime, any crime, and get him. You dont care that it has nothing to do with russian collusion. 

[Srinivas]

5 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

LOL You libs have been saying this same crap for like 2 years now. Never ceases to amaze me that you guys still jump on it like its the end of Trump as soon as "BREAKING" News gives you your latest serving. 

salivating everytime the bell rings. getting hungrier and hungrier and desperate.

 

[UncleTouchyFingers]

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Well I think the HARD CORE "trump" fans (the MAGA hat types) are about 30 percent. But they are very loud, very white, and very well armed. They have a lot more power than they should because of the structure of the senate elections and also the electoral college. 

 

Mostly everyone in this thread so far is far more extreme than any conservative, as evidenced by the author of this post right here. Regular, gun owning, tax paying, voting americans are portrayed as <deleted>' terrorists and the system that has built the country into what it is today should be re-arranged and subverted completely because your guys cant stay in power. Unbelievable, and you cant even see how extreme you really are. 

 

Trump is good to go, and will remain the president. 

[jcsmith]

In the past couple of days we've learned:

 

- Manafort lied while supposedly being a cooperating witness to Mueller, and reported information he learned about their investigation back to Trump.

- Cohen admit he lied to defend Trump about business interests in Russia after the campaign. This is also big because Cohen told the same story as others who testified to congress and there is likely documentation from his office raid to support it. If that is true it would indicate there was likely coordination in getting their story straight and that others also lied to congress.

 

- We learned that Trump was dealing with high end Russian officials, not business dealings, with people with ties to the Russian government. That a $50M penthouse was promised. That financial backing from a Russian source was secured. Meanwhile he repeatedly denied having any ties or dealings with them while this was ongoing. 

 

- We learned that Manafort had 3 meetings with Julian Assange. Including one in March 2016. 

- We learned that Stone and Corsi were communicating about the Wikileaks leaks and the stolen emails before it happened and there is a communication trail. And that Stone was in contact with Trump the next day. 

- Deutsche Bank and the guy who used to do Trump's taxes both raided yesterday. 

If Trump lied at all in his written statements to Mueller just before this all happened, his story is locked in. He's screwed. It seems to me that the walls are closing in.

Edited November 30, 2018 by jcsmith

[spidermike007]

One does not even need to comment, when satire of this caliber is available. Trevor Noah nails Trump as good as anyone out there.

 

https://youtu.be/bd2rQTb0Z1U

 

 

[Jingthing]

Nixon would have been impeached before he resigned based on similar things that we already know 45 did. But there is a difference now. Nixon wasn't as insane as 45, Nixon didn't have a propaganda TV network such as fox, and the Republicans were more patriotic back then. So he may still get through this but at a great cost to American democratic and justice institutions. Is one toxic orange man worth it?

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[ParadiseLost]

21 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

LOL You libs have been saying this same crap for like 2 years now. Never ceases to amaze me that you guys still jump on it like its the end of Trump as soon as "BREAKING" News gives you your latest serving. 

What amazes me is how flawed the electoral system is, in what is supposedly to the rest of the world, the shining beacon of democracy.

 

You managed to elect a moron, a parody of a crime-lord - a wannabe despot! ...then you cry foul when all the evidence of his buffoonery starts coming out.

 

He carries on like a bull in a china shop, making a fool of himself and your country, wherever he goes - yet amazingly you and your happy clansmen still rush to defend him.

[FritsSikkink]

30 minutes ago, riclag said:

No evidence that ties PT to anything ! 

How would you know, seen Muller's documents?

[UncleTouchyFingers]

4 minutes ago, ParadiseLost said:

What amazes me is how flawed the electoral system is, in what is supposedly to the rest of the world, the shining beacon of democracy.

 

You managed to elect a moron, a parody of a crime-lord - a wannabe despot! ...then you cry foul when all the evidence of his buffoonery starts coming out.

 

He carries on like a bull in a china shop, making a fool of himself and your country, wherever he goes - yet amazingly you and your happy clansmen still rush to defend him.

 

Its only flawed because they guy you dislike was the winner. 

 

Why not defend him? Since day one its been non-stop negativity from the MSM, Dems, Libs, calling people like me a racist and insinuating im a terrorist - which is quite funny because my vote was perfectly good and I was an honorable upstanding citizen when I voted for Obama in his first term - but now all of a sudden im a white devil because I had the audacity to vote Trump because I REALLY do not like the way the country is headed. 10 - 15 years ago the things I believe in were mostly Democrat policy and since they've strayed so far away from that I dont even recognize them anymore. 

 

The only people who hate the guy are the same people that never liked him in the first place so I personally dont really care. 

 

18 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Nixon didn't have a propaganda TV network such as fox

 

ONE conservative news outlet VS like 50 mainstream haters. THE HORROR. 

[UncleTouchyFingers]

15 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

How would you know, seen Muller's documents?

 

Have you?

[mtls2005]

The Cinamon Simpleton is up early in BA and tweeting.

 

He's moved from not doing anything in Russia to...

 

 

 

Wondering how big a meltdown he'll have there? I guess his schedule has been greatly reduced to avoid embarrassment.

 

 

 

 

[mtls2005]

50 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

salivating everytime the bell rings. getting hungrier and hungrier and desperate.

 

I know, amazing.

 

The trump crime bell rings daily these days.

 

My appetite is fully sated with the daily revelations of the trump crime family.

 

The only one who is desperate, I mean other than the few lingering trump supporters, is trump himself.

 

Hopefully, Ivanka can control him.

 

 

 

 

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[joecoolfrog]

8 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Get real, your hero is a lying, corrupt Russia, Saudi lover who only cares about his own money and doesn't give a hoot about people like you.

Trump despises ' little ' people , his support base will become pretty nasty when it dawns on them how very much they have been manipulated.

[Jingthing]

Trump despises ' little ' people , his support base will become pretty nasty when it dawns on them how very much they have been manipulated.

You give them too much credit. The core will never get it. Be prepared for de-"trump" ification. The sooner it starts the better.

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[Briggsy]

7 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Trump despises ' little ' people , his support base will become pretty nasty when it dawns on them how very much they have been manipulated.

Ain't gonna happen. Trump fans are fully programmed into the cult by now. They have ongoing propaganda from Fox and Breitbart. At no point will it "dawn on them how very much they have been manipulated." Trump is way too good a conman to let that happen. He knows how to push their buttons. "Build the wall," "Lock her up," Dog whistles with a large dollop of misogyny loaded on top. Kamala Harris and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are the new women Trump fans love to despise. Stick on a red cap and hold a rally in some Republican heartland. It never fails to work.

[joecoolfrog]

3 hours ago, riclag said:

That list is the report I presume! That list has to go through Rosentein and Mr. Wittaker! Before it's made public it will be decimated  and picked apart  by the Rudy's and Floods of the world.

Mueller is well aware that the report may be censored or supressed. Did you notice that more detail than normal was issued about Manafort , expect that to continue.

[Srikcir]

8 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

A $50 million penthouse for Putin

Former Russian government adviser Stanislav Belkovsky estimated his fortune is worth $70 billion. Hedge fund manager Bill Browder, a noted critic of Putin, claimed it was more like $200 billion.

https://www.businessinsider.com/how-putin-spends-his-mysterious-fortune-2017-6

 

As such I don't think Putin was impressed with a free Trump Tower penthouse in Moscow.

 

But Trump's organization had shown a willingness to do a covert deal with Putin while Trump was running as one of the POTUS candidates in the Republican primary. If Putin could help Trump win the Primary and the National election (which Putin had admitted at the Helsinki summit press conference with Trump was indeed his interest), there were billions of dollars to be made for Putin and his fellow oligarchs if Putin could get the Minsky Act repealed. 

 

Coincidentally, shortly thereafter was the Russian oligarch arranged meeting with Trump organization leadership (now including Manafort) at the NYC Trump Tower to propose repeal of the Minsky Act.

[Jingthing]

Mueller is well aware that the report may be censored or supressed. Did you notice that more detail than normal was issued about Manafort , expect that to continue.

Yes and still may be only one percent of what he can prove. Karma time for criminal con man 45.

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[Srinivas]

Funny thing is Cohen is now Meullers star witness.

The guy that plead guilty to lieing to congress is now the STAR witness.

lol

how desperate would a prosecutor have to be to use a guy who recently admitted to lieing under oath as his star witness. 

 

Do you see it now?   ???? 

[Becker]

8 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Funny thing is Cohen is now Meullers star witness.

The guy that plead guilty to lieing to congress is now the STAR witness.

lol

how desperate would a prosecutor have to be to use a guy who recently admitted to lieing under oath as his star witness. 

 

Do you see it now?   ???? 

I'm pretty sure you can't see anything so you're not really the right person to ask anyone that question.

 

 

[Srinivas]

19 minutes ago, Becker said:

I'm pretty sure you can't see anything so you're not really the right person to ask anyone that question.

 

 

Cohens a star witness lol

[attrayant]

38 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Funny thing is Cohen is now Meullers star witness.

 

It seems like you don't know what a 'witness' is.  Do you?