Trump urges 'full sentence' for his ex-lawyer Cohen in Russia probe

[neeray]

6 minutes ago, usacb500biker said:

They Got Nothing On Our GOD  Mr Trump The New Jesus Of The People..!!!!!!    Hee Hee

We all know what happened to Jesus.

[TGIR]

4 hours ago, Briggsy said:

The U.S.A. has abandoned the rule of law under Trump. I never thought I would see the day.

The Democrats seem to have the upper hand in abandoning the rule of law in the past two years.  How you can blame their actions on Trump is laughable.  Who invented and paid for a sleazy tell-all and then took it to court for use in starting the witch hunt we call the Mueller probe?  Who "lost" emails and other classified data, and had their staff physically destroy government equipment to hide thier own missdeeds? At least five top administrators in the F.B.I. are scheduled to face legal proceedings for their unlawful actions in the name of "protecting the country from Trump"?.  Never in the glorified history of the Justice Department has there been less adherence to the rule of law......if you believe Trump is the catalyst for all their law breaking and illegitimate behavior I would have to agree.  The facts, however, will show these are the people who abandoned the law, not the President.

[mikebike]

2 minutes ago, TGIR said:

The facts, however, will show these are the people who abandoned the law, not the President.

55555... we have a comedian in our midst!!

[heybruce]

21 minutes ago, TGIR said:

The Democrats seem to have the upper hand in abandoning the rule of law in the past two years.  How you can blame their actions on Trump is laughable.  Who invented and paid for a sleazy tell-all and then took it to court for use in starting the witch hunt we call the Mueller probe?  Who "lost" emails and other classified data, and had their staff physically destroy government equipment to hide thier own missdeeds? At least five top administrators in the F.B.I. are scheduled to face legal proceedings for their unlawful actions in the name of "protecting the country from Trump"?.  Never in the glorified history of the Justice Department has there been less adherence to the rule of law......if you believe Trump is the catalyst for all their law breaking and illegitimate behavior I would have to agree.  The facts, however, will show these are the people who abandoned the law, not the President.

You omitted the part about all of these acts being investigated and charges brought when appropriate.  Trump objects to receiving the same consideration.

[FritsSikkink]

6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

There is no need for profanity. Do you have any idea how much stress serious investigations cause to innocent victims? Nothing is more serious that this investigation due to the high level of the witch hunters, and the sheer length of time it dragged on. Plus it was played out in public with leaks causing extra embarrassment to Trump, his family and friends. The strain was clear when he opted out of meeting Putin just to avoid the talking heads on TV going into frenzied pitch yet again. A lesser man/woman in Trumps position would be sorely tempted to start eliminating the problems in a more direct manner. Yes, Trump has been dignified and restrained.

Stop trolling

[Srinivas]

55 minutes ago, heybruce said:

You omitted the part about all of these acts being investigated and charges brought when appropriate.  Trump objects to receiving the same consideration.

Investigated by? James "no intent" Comey? or "lets meet on the tarmac"Lynch lol 

John Hubers investigation testimony coming up.  Should be interesting.

 

[Stocky]

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Has a Russian troll farm found TV?

I suspect a large proportion of our Trumpsters answer to the name Ivan or Boris.

[mike324]

Didn't Russia just provided evidence of Cohen emailing them? Russia is even assisting Mueller with the investigations! Great!

[heybruce]

20 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

Investigated by? James "no intent" Comey? or "lets meet on the tarmac"Lynch lol 

John Hubers investigation testimony coming up.  Should be interesting.

 

Do you mean James "throw the election to Trump" Comey?

[Srikcir]

3 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

I am urging a "full sentence" for Trump.

"Cohen also indicates that as he prepared his congressional testimony, he was in “close and regular contact” with the White House staff and the president’s lawyers. This passage would suggest communications about his testimony, which—it is reasonably assumed—would have included discussion of its content. And it would be hard, indeed well-nigh impossible, to believe that the president’s team did not share with Trump what it learned. In fact, Trump’s lawyers had an obligation to advise him of what they knew." (my underline emphasis)

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/did-trump-advise-michael-cohen-lie-congress/577168/

And not a word of rebuke from Trump to Cohen's planned testimony?

And after Cohen's testimony was submitted under oath, again Trump remained silent.

That might implicate Trump as a co-conspirator.

 

[Srinivas]

32 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Do you mean James "throw the election to Trump" Comey?

well he did exonerate her, the best he could do for her give her predicament.

 

[Tchooptip]

That's what's called being grateful  

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Srinivas said:

well he did exonerate her, the best he could do for her give her predicament.

 

Nonsense. In fact Comey was severely reproached by the Horowitz report, the one you are so fond of referring to when it suits your purposes, for making public the re-opening of the investigation re: anthony Weiner's laptop.

[DM07]

Didn't Trump brag, that he sued everybody's @$$ for this and that?

So...if that Cohen-guy is just lying about him in such a blatant way, wouldn't a law-suite fit nicely?

Unless of course, the POtuS knows, that he would stand the same chance as a snowball in hell... 

[spidermike007]

10 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 So, it's taken two years of this witch hunt to catch a lawyer for lying and other sundry offenses. No mention of Russian collusion, absolutely no evidence that collusion between Trump and Russian players caused Hillary to lose her election. This is insane. Time to get straight-jackets on Mueller and all his team(and Strzok and Page and Comey and that woman beating lawyer that was always on CNN) and cart them all of to Guantanamo. This whole "show me the man and I'll find you a crime" farce is an unprecedented assault on democracy and needs to end now.

 

 Once again, credit to Trump for maintaining his dignity amidst this prolonged personal attack on him. 

By even using the term witch hunt, you are essentially admitting complete and total discipleship. You are giving up independent thought and free will. One cannot help but be reminded of one or two year Christians making an attempt to convert the masses, with their newfound zeal. That kind of parroting of scripture some of us get subjected to. 

Edited December 4, 2018 by spidermike007

[heybruce]

3 hours ago, Srinivas said:

well he did exonerate her, the best he could do for her give her predicament.

 

 

3 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Nonsense. In fact Comey was severely reproached by the Horowitz report, the one you are so fond of referring to when it suits your purposes, for making public the re-opening of the investigation re: anthony Weiner's laptop.

Trump and the Trumpies have difficulty with the concept of law enforcement professionals who do their jobs without political consideration.  It seems Trump hates the very idea.

[mikebike]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

It seems Trump hates the very idea

You are being too nice. 45 hates law enforcement period. Unless he can control and direct it towards his percieved enemies...

 

He has opined that informants should be locked up... All hail the law and order POTUS.

[bristolboy]

7 minutes ago, heybruce said:

People who intentionally, illegally leaked classified information to the press were prosecuted in accordance with the law.  Do you think that is a bad thing? 

 

I have no doubt Trump would like to prosecute the people who leak inside information regarding his administration, but I don't recall any of those leaks involving classified.

They also went after James Risen, a reporter for the New York Times.

[heybruce]

9 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

They also went after James Risen, a reporter for the New York Times.

I very much disagree with that and many of the other prosecutions.  However these are examples of poor judgement in aggressively prosecuting people who were intentionally publishing classified information.  It is not an example of the President acting above the law.

[riclag]

15 hours ago, webfact said:

It is highly inappropriate for a president to insert himself into a judicial process, said Jens Ohlin, a professor at Cornell Law School. "He’s not just a regular person. He’s the head of the executive branch."

 I think its appropriate,he's under attack. It's highly inappropriate to not tell a sitting President in his first intel  briefing that the FBI were  surveilling  the transition team and that a salacious unverified report that prompted a FISA warrant and it   conveniently left out  who sponsored it - the Democrat party .I don't  need a  degree in law to see what's going on.   

[bristolboy]

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

 I think its appropriate,he's under attack. It's highly inappropriate to not tell a sitting President in his first intel  briefing that the FBI were  surveilling  the transition team and that a salacious unverified report that prompted a FISA warrant and it   conveniently left out  who sponsored it - the Democrat party .I don't  need a  degree in law to see what's going on.   

First off, where' the evidence that the FBI was servilling the transition team?

Secondly the Justice Department noted that the Steele report was paid for by opponents of Trump. It just didn't say the Democratic party. This is typically how its done in these submissions to FISA.

You may not need a degree in law to see what's going on, but an acquaintance with the actual facts might help.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, riclag said:

 I think its appropriate,he's under attack. It's highly inappropriate to not tell a sitting President in his first intel  briefing that the FBI were  surveilling  the transition team and that a salacious unverified report that prompted a FISA warrant and it   conveniently left out  who sponsored it - the Democrat party .I don't  need a  degree in law to see what's going on.   

Under attack?  Are you referring to the press doing its job, asking questions and playing the devils advocate regarding his actions and policies?  Or are you referring to something else?

[Basil B]

17 hours ago, webfact said:

President Donald Trump on Monday called for a "full and complete" sentence for his former lawyer Michael Cohen, accusing him of lying about Trump's business dealings with Russia during the 2016 presidential campaign to get reduced jail time.

Thing is Cohan is going to produce evidence that is more than just hearsay, so Trump calling for the full sentence is just a last ditch attempt to save his lying arse... 

[riclag]

40 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Under attack?  Are you referring to the press doing its job, asking questions and playing the devils advocate regarding his actions and policies?  Or are you referring to something else?

 I never mentioned PRESS  ,please read my post! But now that you mentioned it ,I do see the POTUS taking on all of them especially when they have been found by the IG  of  exchanging perks with the FBI! Oh! the hypocrisy of the liberal, Jens Ohlin, a professor at Cornell Law School.

Edited December 4, 2018 by riclag

[heybruce]

10 minutes ago, riclag said:

 I never mentioned PRESS  ,please read my post! But now that you mentioned it ,I do see the POTUS taking on all of them especially when they have been found by the IG  of  exchanging perks with the FBI! Oh! the hypocrisy of the liberal, Jens Ohlin, a professor at Cornell Law School.

Ok, then what do you mean by "under attack"? 

 

Also, what are you referring to with "exchanging perks with the FBI"?

[quandow]

18 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Once again, credit to Trump for maintaining his dignity amidst this prolonged personal attack on him. 

And again credit to you for ignoring all the facts and standing by your man. Astounding in your fortitude to support such a liar, a poor leader, a stupid bull in a China shop, etc.

[jcsmith]

6 hours ago, Srinivas said:

Has trump arrested any whistle blower, journalist, or informant?

Reality Winner: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/23/reality-winner-sentence-classified-report-leak

Though I think there is some confusion here about the president's role in any of these things. There isn't in Trump's case because he's vocal in trying to influence legal proceedings (see Manafort), as well as attacking political rivals (Amazon for example), and routinely calling the press into question. But the president shouldn't be directly involved in this type of stuff. It should also be noted that Obama pardoned Manning.

Edited December 4, 2018 by jcsmith

[mtls2005]

His insanity level on the tweet machine has been ramped to "11".

 

Even mob bosses don't try witness intimidation so publicly.

 

Clearly, he sees the walls closing in and he's getting desperate.

 

At least Michael Corleone was "subtle".

 

 

[DJ54]

Ooops uh oooooo

 

Now the lawyer will tell all the other shady things that may or may

not be true..

 

then the two can share a cell together 

[Scott]

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