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White House Welcomes Guantanamo Ruling

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I reckon spew and mew would have a different take on things if it was a septic captured in a foriegn country without charge or trial for 5 years.

Thank god the septics are "saving the world", next battle, let me guess Iran.

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Would any member like to give us a reasoned opinion of their own, that could highlight the benefits of the Guantanamo inmates having no legal or human rights, as a counter argument to this discussion?

TT, I can think of no reason why they shouldn't have representation, except by having no representation then the real reason for their incarceration should be made obvious to the world.

But I guess I have misunderstood your question.

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Moss

Wow! you've been busy.

The post you quoted me from before was an invitation for the advocates of the suspension of human rights, to give us a reasoned opinion that we could discuss, it all went kind of quiet after that. :o

Robbo, the highlighted words were from TT's post and I was responding to his post, not really commenting on yours.

I resisted getting involved in this thread for a long time and accidentally clicked on it and wambam like a vortex I was sucked right in , darn I wish I hadn't.

Good Luck

Moss

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Hambali among 14 at closed Guantanamo hearings

WASHINGTON: US military officials will start hearings tomorrow for 14 prisoners transferred to Guantanamo Bay from secret CIA jails, including the alleged mastermind of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Reporters will not be allowed at the hearings - which will decide whether the suspects should be designated as "enemy combatants" - and will have to rely on edited transcripts, officials said, citing concerns that the suspects could reveal sensitive security information.

But a legal rights group condemned the hearings, which are also closed to defence lawyers, as "sham tribunals" that would allow evidence obtained by coercion.

The 14 prisoners include Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the suspected mastermind of the 2001 attacks on New York and Washington, and Hambali, an Indonesian who is accused of planning the 2002 Bali bombings.

The Centre for Constitutional Rights, which represents one of the 14, Majid Khan, a Pakistani, condemned the hearings and complained its client had not had access to a defence lawyer.

"Any suggestion that Khan's proceedings would comport with our values and traditional notions of justice is demeaning to all Americans," the New York-based rights group said. "We might expect this in Libya or China, but not America."

The Pentagon also announced that the latest annual reviews of prisoners' cases had identified 55 inmates who could be transferred to their home countries.

This is in addition to more than 80 already awaiting transfer to their home countries, the Pentagon said.

Reuters

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/hambali-a...3166801066.html

Guantanamo inmates appeal detention to top court

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some of the Guantanamo prisoners have been unlawfully detained for more than five years and deserve at least a hearing on their challenge to their confinement, their attorneys said on Monday in an appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

The lawyers argued a U.S. appeals court was wrong in its ruling last month that upheld a key part of an anti-terrorism law sought by President George W. Bush that took away the rights of the prisoners to challenge their detention before U.S. federal judges.

rest of the article here:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7030601675.html

No defence lawyers allowed............................. :o

LaoPo

They're not called Guerrilla lawyers for nothing:

Gitmo's Guerrilla Lawyers .

How an unscrupulous legal and PR campaign changed the way the world looks at Guantanamo. :o

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Hmmm.......maybe I'm wrong but isn't the Wall Street Journal a strong pro-Bush-government newspaper? They even support the idea of giving this Libby-guy a 'pardon'.......... :o Interesting to see what's next...

LaoPo

Hmmm.......maybe I'm wrong but isn't the Wall Street Journal a strong pro-Bush-government newspaper? They even support the idea of giving this Libby-guy a 'pardon'.......... :o Interesting to see what's next...

LaoPo

Actually, the WSJ is completely 'middle-of-the-road' w/respect to politics.

Editorials stress economic topics rather than partisan issues.

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Guantanamo force-feeds detainees

Thirteen detainees on hunger strike at the US military prison in Guantanamo Bay are being force-fed through tubes in their noses, the US Navy has said.

The feeding is required to ensure the good health and nutrition of the detainees, navy Cdr Robert Durand said.

Lawyers for the prisoners said they were striking over harsh conditions at a new maximum-security prison.

Rights groups called on the US to halt the "brutal" tactic, which includes strapping detainees to a chair.

'Media stunt'

This latest hunger strike began in 2005, reaching a peak of 131 detainees.

Detainees at Guantanamo Bay have launched hunger strikes since 2002

Of the 13 current strikers, two had been refusing food since August 2005, while most of the others had joined the protest in January or February, Cdr Durand said.

He dismissed the protest as a stunt to attract the attention of the many journalists who were at the US naval base in Cuba to cover the March trial of Australian detainee David Hicks.

Cdr Durand said hunger strikes were a media tactic taught in the al-Qaeda training manual.

"As soon as the media left, the number of hunger strikers has been steadily dropping," he said.

Lawyers for some of the protesters said the strike was prompted by the conditions at the new maximum-security Camp 6 complex.

The 160 detainees at Camp 6 are confined in solid-wall cells most of the day, with recreation limited to a maximum of two hours a day. Contact with other detainees is severely restricted and they have little exposure to natural light.

Cdr Durant said the protesters were "in good health", defending the force-feeding as a common medical procedure used in many US civilian hospitals.

US-based campaign group Physicians for Human Rights has called on the US to halt the "brutal and inhumane force-feeding tactics".

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http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6541091.stm

LaoPo

A very old post. And I prefer they forcefeed them to keep them alive, as oppose to good old POW-camps in Vietnam where people starved to death...or just died from good old torture-sessions. And Hanoi-Jane smiled.

I'm under the impression that this type of thread is discouraged under the new Bedlam regime- so I'm closing it now.

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