Need Help With a Homeless Dog Who Has Bitten People

[ChoakMyDee]

I have a question about a soi dog that has bitten 2 people in one day.

 

My wife and I live in Hua Hin on a quiet street where we built our house and there was a homeless dog we named Sum Lee who started hanging out at our place even when it was being built. She started sleeping here every night and she's been here ever since about a year and a half. We feed her twice a day and we have become quite attached to her. She is very smart and she is a loner; she likes to be alone all day and doesn't need a lot of attention and she doesn't hang out with the other soi dogs. She is also very good security as she barks at any stranger approaching our house when we sleep. She has never bitten anyone before as far as we know. We have 2 young kids here who play with her and she has never bitten any of us.

 

A few days ago she bit 2 different people in one day. First she bit a small boy who was walking past our house to go home after visiting the neighbour boy. Then later in the same day she bit my brother-in-law who was visiting...he went out to the car to get something and she came up behind him and bit him. Both of these bites were unprovoked which worries me. The dog is getting old so we are wondering if she is getting old and senile or has some medical condition that makes her angry. I'm not a dog expert so I don't know what is going on with her. I did notice that she felt ashamed after she bit my brother-in-law. We asked her why she did that and she cowered in shame so she knew it was wrong.

 

This is a terrible experience for us because we love her but we are thinking she has to be put down before she bites someone else. Another option is to find a place for her to live out her days in peace where she will be fed and loved. We can't keep her here because we have no place for her. We have no yard because our house comprises the entire building lot. She currently sleeps on the street in front of our house or on our steps when it rains. If we do nothing we risk her eventually biting someone else so we are feeling responsible to do something since she considers our place her home.

 

Can someone please tell me what are our options?

 

 

 

 

[ChoakMyDee]

I have a question about a soi dog that has bitten 2 people in one day.

 

My wife and I live in Hua Hin on a quiet street where we built our house and there was a homeless dog we named Sum Lee who started hanging out at our place even when it was being built. She started sleeping here every night and she's been here ever since about a year and a half. We feed her twice a day and we have become quite attached to her. She is very smart and she is a loner; she likes to be alone all day and doesn't need a lot of attention and she doesn't hang out with the other soi dogs. She is also very good security as she barks at any stranger approaching our house when we sleep. She has never bitten anyone before as far as we know. We have 2 young kids here who play with her and she has never bitten any of us.

 

A few days ago she bit 2 different people in one day. First she bit a small boy who was walking past our house to go home after visiting the neighbour boy. Then later in the same day she bit my brother-in-law who was visiting...he went out to the car to get something and she came up behind him and bit him. Both of these bites were unprovoked which worries me. The dog is getting old so we are wondering if she is getting old and senile or has some medical condition that makes her angry. I'm not a dog expert so I don't know what is going on with her. I did notice that she felt ashamed after she bit my brother-in-law. We asked her why she did that and she cowered in shame so she knew it was wrong.

 

This is a terrible experience for us because we love her but we are thinking she has to be put down before she bites someone else. Another option is to find a place for her to live out her days in peace where she will be fed and loved. We can't keep her here because we have no place for her. We have no yard because our house comprises the entire building lot. She currently sleeps on the street in front of our house or on our steps when it rains. If we do nothing we risk her eventually biting someone else so we are feeling responsible to do something since she considers our place her home.

 

Can someone please tell me what are our options?

 

Edit: I also posted this in the Hua Hin SubForum

Edited January 3, 2019 by ChoakMyDee
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[madmen]

You have kids. Why are you asking? 

Have her put down. Moving her somewhere else like a temple won't stop her biting strangers 

[johng]

Has the dog had rabies vaccination ?   if not then the 2  victims need to get vaccinated quickly.

[from the home of CC]

You had good intentions, now it's time to put people first.

[poohy]

If you want to keep she has to be secure if not she will get poisoned by Thais

Vets here wont put her down so moving her to temple is only other option.

 

For what its worth my guard dogs both large and soppy really make a noise but once people (foreigners) are allowed inside they are ok and playful

BUT

Thais have to be escorted for their safety

Thais coming in unannounced would be a big big mistake on their part

[FritsSikkink]

If you feed the dog and are happy with the security, it is your responsibility to teach the dog not to bite. If you can't do that, get rid of the dog. Dogs are not ashamed, they could be scared for punishment.  

Edited January 3, 2019 by FritsSikkink

[ChoakMyDee]

15 minutes ago, madmen said:

You have kids. Why are you asking? 

Have her put down. Moving her somewhere else like a temple won't stop her biting strangers 

How do we do that? 

[FritsSikkink]

1 minute ago, ChoakMyDee said:

How do we do that? 

Stop feeding the dog, kick him in the nuts and tell the police he bites people.

[ChoakMyDee]

Hey guys, maybe I wasn't being clear, Can you please be specific with your advice? Like I already know she should probably be put down. What I'm asking is specifically how?

[madmen]

A vet. By injection [emoji382] Google vets your area or ask locals

[poohy]

Like i said most vets wont put dogs down

Why not look up soi or stray dogs foundation (maybe theres something local in HH) give them a donation if they can take the dog

[ChoakMyDee]

23 minutes ago, johng said:

Has the dog had rabies vaccination ?   if not then the 2  victims need to get vaccinated quickly.

 

Thank you, I'm not sure she's had rabies vaccinations but I know she was fixed. Yes, the 2 victims went for rabies shots immediately. Thanks.

[ChoakMyDee]

2 minutes ago, poohy said:

Like i said most vets wont put dogs down

Why not look up soi or stray dogs foundation (maybe theres something local in HH) give them a donation if they can take the dog

Unfortunately, we can't keep her because we have no where to put her. I'll try to find the soi dog association. Thank you.

[canthai55]

17 minutes ago, ChoakMyDee said:

Hey guys, maybe I wasn't being clear, Can you please be specific with your advice? Like I already know she should probably be put down. What I'm asking is specifically how?

55 grains behind the ear

or 115 grains if you have a 9

[ChoakMyDee]

Just now, canthai55 said:

55 grains behind the ear

or 115 grains if you have a 9

If I was in my home country no problem but it is illegal in Thailand to shoot a dog, that's why I'm asking on here.

[grollies]

59 minutes ago, ChoakMyDee said:

we named Sum Lee who started hanging out at our place even when it was being built. She started sleeping here every night and she's been here ever since about a year and a half. We feed her twice a day and we have become quite attached to her.

Sounds like she's defacto  your dog, not homeless. But try the vet.

Edited January 3, 2019 by grollies

[CharlieH]

If you care about the dog, why dont you just buy a muzzle and she cant bite anything.

 

Remove it for feeding only.

[Buffy Frobisher]

I'd be seeking advice from a vet anyway. If the dog has been fine until now and then suddenly bites two people in a week, there's a chance that it also has rabies which is starting to become active. If it does they'll put it down anyway, and if it doesn't you can have it vaccinated and eliminate one risk factor for it and your family. Don't know about Hua Hin, but there's a great vet in Thonglor who puts down sick dogs in a very calm and caring manner. As someone else mentioned, most vets here won't even put an animal in agony out of their misery.

[giddyup]

2 hours ago, canthai55 said:

55 grains behind the ear

or 115 grains if you have a 9

Does everyone in Thailand carry a gun? In fact I've never heard of a falang owning a gun in Thailand.

Edited January 3, 2019 by giddyup

[balo]

Give her a sleeping pill and drive far away to a remote temple where she can't find her way back. 

[wildewillie89]

I am curious as to many members comments on vets in Thai not putting dogs down. All the vets I have ever been to have said yes to putting animals down. Maybe it was a thing of the past?

Could muzzle the dog but make sure it is the right kind of muzzle. That is, one the dog can pant and drink with (never seen a humane muzzle sold in Thailand - only ones designed to be used for quick vet visits). Otherwise it would be very cruel to have it muzzled all the time. If choose that option the dog would obviously need to go for a full check up at a vet and be treated for parasites if you have kids around it. 

Re biting the people, you can have the dog put down at the vet and then get the municipality to pick it up and get it sent off to be tested for rabies. Municipality will send it to the vet office in the province, if they cant do the test they will cut the head off and send it to a province that can. 

The Thai option is to sedate the dog, put it in a sack and dump it at a temple very far away. Just moving the problem on. Probably not an option if this dog is a loner. 

Edited January 4, 2019 by wildewillie89

[canthai55]

18 hours ago, ChoakMyDee said:

If I was in my home country no problem but it is illegal in Thailand to shoot a dog, that's why I'm asking on here.

It is illegal if you get caught.

 

[canthai55]

16 hours ago, giddyup said:

Does everyone in Thailand carry a gun? In fact I've never heard of a falang owning a gun in Thailand.

Owning - yes

Access - no problem

In my neck of the woods.

When I moved here, I sold my collection - 42 in total. Most legal - 555

[giddyup]

11 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Owning - yes

Access - no problem

In my neck of the woods.

When I moved here, I sold my collection - 42 in total. Most legal - 555

In Thailand, I don't think so. This isn't the US.

[ChoakMyDee]

So we found a place for her. There is a shelter here in Hua Hin sponsored by the Royal Family. They are coming by in a few days to check her out, vaccinate her, refer her to another agency who will come by and get her when they can. Apparently they are very busy so it isn't a fast process as there is a long list of dogs to be picked up. We had to go down there and fill out paper work telling them why we want her taken away. She will be missed. The only negative is that she likes to be alone so she probably won't be happy there with other dogs but we can't risk having her run free and possibly biting more people.

 

https://www.changpuak.ch/bijoux/RoyalProjectsDogShelterHuaHin.php

 

Thanks for your input all.

[geriatrickid]

On 1/3/2019 at 2:40 PM, johng said:

Has the dog had rabies vaccination ?   if not then the 2  victims need to get vaccinated quickly.

 It doesn't work that way.

 

Edited January 9, 2019 by geriatrickid