Britons would now vote to stay in EU, want second referendum: poll

[elliss]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Sorry you don't understand, Grouse.

      Join the  uneducated , working  class club,  welcome .

[elliss]

32 minutes ago, Spidey said:

It's going to be a lot harder to find a job if we leave the EU.

   YES ,  because  polish workers , will be allowed to stay ,

more competitive and work better , for less wages,

 Minimum  wages is a farce , zero hour contracts a reality, and a stigma on our society .

  A  shame  on  you Britain ,  socialism my toot.

             

Edited January 7, 2019 by elliss

[elliss]

3 minutes ago, elliss said:

   YES ,  because  polish workers, imo the very best , will be allowed to stay ,

more competitive and work better , for less wages,

 Minimum  wages is a farce , zero hour contracts a reality, and a stigma on our society .

  A  shame  on  you Britain ,  socialism my toot.

             

 

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

Haha. IQ2 again along with the usual false assumptions.

 

It’s a fact that those who voted Brexit were generally lower on educational attainment. 

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, sungod said:

Another stereotypical remainer who thinks they are better than others. Again, no different from the Bangkok /ruling elite in Thailand who say the country folk are too stupid to vote, shame on you. I thought so called intellectuals were better than this?

Just stating the facts. Not my fault you failed your 11 plus.

 

[nontabury]

14 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The polls that matter are those telling Labour that if they don’t back a referendum on on the deal (including an option Remain), they’ll be annihilated at the election Corbyn is so eager for.

 

It’s simple arrhythmic.

 

No political party is representing the millions who voted Remain.

 

Polls are consistently returning evidence that those millions are now more than half the voting electorate.

 

But don’t put it past Corbyn to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

 

 

It’s true that most Labour M.P’s and Labour members would like a 2nd ref,

But the leader of the Labour Party is equally sure that the majority of Labour voters are in support of exiting this so called Union. And in doing so, implemented the Democratic decision of the People’s vote in 2016.

 

[baboon]

20 minutes ago, elliss said:

   YES ,  because  polish workers , will be allowed to stay ,

more competitive and work better , for less wages,

 Minimum  wages is a farce , zero hour contracts a reality, and a stigma on our society .

  A  shame  on  you Britain ,  socialism my toot.

             

Socialism? What socialism? Britain hasn't been anything approaching socialist for donkey's years, worse luck.

Edited January 7, 2019 by baboon

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

So lets just say those with a degree can vote...or better still only those with a PHD. What a condesending view you have of people, should be ashamed of yourself. Old iron and workhouses is what you wants me thinks mi kind sir

It’s well documented that in general leavers are in the lower level of educational achievement. Can a fact be condescending? The Brexit campaign was a con job, targeting old people and the working classes over immigration ... something none of those campaigning for leave could give a fig about. They are all about low tax, low regulation, small government and privatisation ... something seldom mentioned on the campaign trail. Posh boys conning a vote out of dunderheads. And not for the first time.

 

[melvinmelvin]

51 minutes ago, ukrules said:

If there is no deal then the default way forward is to proceed without a deal.

 

This has always been understood and by some of us, expected.

if may-deal is put to vote next week as scheduled. that is an IF

if it fails

there are # options that can be taken rather than hard Brexit

 

paths are legio in this game

 

[AlexRich]

1 hour ago, baansgr said:

The vote was decided in June 2016, no need for another one but its such a shame that these supposedly super duper intellectuals have to resort to blatant lies

I think Tebee has called you on the misinformation you have been posting regarding the Met Police? 

 

The truth is that you and your kind are scared witless at the prospect of another vote ... one you will lose. Two and a half years on we need to put the “will of the people” to the test. A final say.

[baansgr]

19 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

It’s a fact that those who voted Brexit were generally lower on educational attainment. 

Thats it, Ive started a petition that any election or referendum in the UK can only include voters with a Masters or above. lets keep them pesky rag n bone people in the gutters

 

On a side note.....having a ology degree in social media really makes for an intellectual

[baansgr]

9 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

It’s well documented that in general leavers are in the lower level of educational achievement. Can a fact be condescending? The Brexit campaign was a con job, targeting old people and the working classes over immigration ... something none of those campaigning for leave could give a fig about. They are all about low tax, low regulation, small government and privatisation ... something seldom mentioned on the campaign trail. Posh boys conning a vote out of dunderheads. And not for the first time.

 

It may be a fact but its yours and other peoples attitude that is condescending. Just because someone has a few letters after their name dosnt make them more intelligent. That attitude went out the window in the 70s and its offensive for you and the media to think you are better people because of it

[elliss]

4 minutes ago, baansgr said:

 

On a side note.....having a ology degree in social media really makes for an intellectual

  Sorry  mate , i though  you  meant a dodgy  degree ,, ideal for teaching in the Kingdom.

       Along with a type  D visa . 555

[baboon]

5 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

The truth is that you and your kind are scared witless at the prospect of another vote ... one you will lose. Two and a half years on we need to put the “will of the people” to the test. A final say.

No.

52% of the passengers on a plane elect to replace the pilot with a chimp. The other 48% should simply stay quiet and accept they lost...

[bomber]

13 hours ago, Dellboy218 said:

A certain Mr. Soros is also spending many millions to strengthen remain.  He obviously smells a profit.  

Soros has nothing to do with brexit,traders trade everyday brexit or no brexit,one thing is sure he dont make what the UK has lost,£1500 for every adult is a lot of dosh,also i see figures out today reveal another rise in household debt most likely due to inflation caused by the battered pound which after 2.5 years most brits will of had 3-6 holidays/weekends abroad with 20% less for their quid,and lets not even start with the expats loses.

[baansgr]

16 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I think Tebee has called you on the misinformation you have been posting regarding the Met Police? 

 

The truth is that you and your kind are scared witless at the prospect of another vote ... one you will lose. Two and a half years on we need to put the “will of the people” to the test. A final say.

BBC from the day of course its the same lies, The truth has been released

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1067870/brexit-news-peoples-vote-march-leave-EU-october-protest

 

 

[Loiner]

It’s well documented that in general leavers are in the lower level of educational achievement.
 

You make me LMFAO.

I haven’t checked any previous posts from Remainers on Thai politics, but pound to a pinch, you are mostly ardent Red Shirt supporters. Can’t have a military junta running Thailand because it’s not democratic. The Thai masses must all have their votes. Shame on any elites who claim the baan nawk are too uneducated to be allowed votes.

Boot on the other foot when you have lost your referendum?


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[Baerboxer]

13 hours ago, smedly said:

there was a vote already, it must be respected

 

And it has been. But now the majority are requesting another vote as the current crop of politicians have shown they aren't fit to govern or be the opposition.

[baansgr]

Just now, Baerboxer said:

 

And it has been. But now the majority are requesting another vote as the current crop of politicians have shown they aren't fit to govern or be the opposition.

The majority in a a very dubious poll of 25,000 so lets overturn the result of 50 million voters. Monty Python all over again

[Baerboxer]

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Edited January 7, 2019 by Baerboxer

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, baansgr said:

The majority in a a very dubious poll of 25,000 so lets overturn the result of 50 million voters. Monty Python all over again

 

You should Google Statistical Sampling and ask someone to explain it to you. Just because you don't understand that and don't like the outcome doesn't mean it's dubious.

[baansgr]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

You should Google Statistical Sampling and ask someone to explain it to you. Just because you don't understand that and don't like the outcome doesn't mean it's dubious.

I fully understand and regarding 700,000 when really 250,000 how could the poll be anything other than dubious. Bet they stood outside Oxfam shops and only asked bearded one legged lesbian non caucasians

[vinny41]

53 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

It’s well documented that in general leavers are in the lower level of educational achievement. Can a fact be condescending? The Brexit campaign was a con job, targeting old people and the working classes over immigration ... something none of those campaigning for leave could give a fig about. They are all about low tax, low regulation, small government and privatisation ... something seldom mentioned on the campaign trail. Posh boys conning a vote out of dunderheads. And not for the first time.

 

Maybe you idea is remainers and those with a degree will pay all the taxes that leavers pay 

example Leavers pay no taxes and have no votes Remainers will pay double or Triple taxes and can Vote

I suspect that most of the remainers will which sides and become leavers if no tax is on the table

[nontabury]

13 hours ago, RuamRudy said:

For the avoidance of doubt, would you care to advise us as to who you consider to be a trustworthy source?

The 2016 people’s referendum.

 

[CG1 Blue]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

OK no problem.

 

So if Arron Banks £8 million or the mysterious bung the DUP received before the referendum, turned out to be from foreign sources would you consider the referendum itself tainted?  

Are you not at all concerned that the sitting government were allowed to take sides and spend £9m of taxpayers' money on leaflet drops, and campaign vigorously for Remain? That should have been illegal. Surely the Prime Minister should have taken a neutral stance.  

Imagine how many fence sitters were swayed by the propaganda from the PM and chancellor. Many more than would have been swayed by a bit of extra funding from Aaron Banks. 

 

I also suspect both sides broke the rules.  The reason the Leave campaign was so thoroughly investigated was because they won the vote. You're not going to look for a horseshoe in the glove of the boxer who's on the canvas...

 

[Grouse]

2 hours ago, Loiner said:

There aren't 1 million Brits employed in the EU. About 800,000 of those are retirees in Spain - you know the ones who take their UK savings and pensions to spend it there. Another nice little earner for Spain in particular, which has helped the local economy throught the winters thankyou. (Very much like the expats here.)
The idea of free movement for UK nationals is a fallacy, hardly any of them can get a job in the EU. It's another of the false promises the youth have been sold by the Remainers.

Haha! Are you saying the monoglot Brits are too stupid to compete in the EU? I think rather more highly

[baboon]

24 minutes ago, baansgr said:

I fully understand and regarding 700,000 when really 250,000 how could the poll be anything other than dubious. Bet they stood outside Oxfam shops and only asked bearded one legged lesbian non caucasians

I would suggest then that gambling is not your forte...

[baboon]

1 minute ago, Grouse said:

Haha! Are you saying the monoglot Brits are too stupid to compete in the EU? I think rather more highly

Grouse, check out the posting history then don't bother engaging...

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, baboon said:

Grouse, check out the posting history then don't bother engaging...

To which post do you refer? Did I miss something?

[nontabury]

13 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

An agenda well worth meeting for the sake of the country's future.

Especially the under 30's who voted overwhelmingly in favour of Remain because they were born Europeans.

Old white voters were always the problem ,leaving the mess that will ensue to the younger generation who have much more at stake.

Voting preferences have changed now that more people now understand that the Utopia promised by the Brexiteers will not happen .

 

  Most of the older generation, who according to you, made up the bulk of the exit vote, have children and Grandchildren. They Know that the establishment lied and deceived the Electorate in 1975, and in the years since. These same people are not concerned for their future, yet are very, very concerned for that of their offsprings. And from their experience they understandably, put the welfare and future of their off springs first.

 So unlike many of the remoaners, who I’m afraid to say come across as selfish and arrogant individuals. Thankfully this does not apply to all of the younger generation, as many, to my personal knowledge voted to exit this so called Union. There numbers have of course increased since, more and more people now understand how the E.u Bureaucrats operate.

Edited January 7, 2019 by nontabury