Saudi teen who fled family welcomed as 'brave new Canadian' in Toronto

[kannot]

2 hours ago, sqwakvfr said:

Yeah, I forgot a Reality TV show is possible.  But she should not visit a Saudi Consulate especially the one in Istanbul.  

I think she  should and sit  outside with placards, the wests  gone way waaaaaaaaay  to  soft afraid  to offend anyone even Canada is too  soft, no backbone anymore.

[skippy]

3 hours ago, robblok said:

So what, if your fleeing for your life (and i believe she is fleeing for her life) your not taking any risks. Canada is a great country nothing wrong with it at all. I too would prefer Australia for the weather.

I've not seen any proof where she was tortured and abused by her family in Saudi or Kuwait.

[farcanell]

3 hours ago, tifino said:

 

hope the Canadians don't eventually realise that they were simply just more 'convenient' to her, than the Aussies! That she wanted Australia, and Canada was a lesser choice...

Umm... err.... mmmm

 

i thought that everyone (who could read, at least) knew that she had nominated Australia as her number one pick.... ergo, (unless Canadians can’t read), the Canadians already knew she was originally intending to head for Australia.

 

But as to a lessor choice... well, as an Aussie, I can understand that sentiment, but to her, perhaps it was simply not a considered option, for whatever reason ( snow and ice perhaps), so it (Canada) could or should be considered as a viable alternative, vs a lessor choice.

 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, skippy said:

I've not seen any proof where she was tortured and abused by her family in Saudi or Kuwait.

NO because its not your job to interview and check people who apply for asylum.  Other people with more knowledge then you or I about the case do so. Would it not be easy if everything was reported in newspapers and we could all review every case from our sofa ????

 

 

[Oziex1]

1 hour ago, Sheryl said:

Yes, she will need to get a job and for that may need further training/education. And likely have to work part time while studying.

Hopefully one of Canada's universities will offer a scholarship.

IOM is assisting her resttlement so she'll have initial help with housing etc.

I would not assume that she will view working for a living as a burden or disadvantage.

But there will of course be adjustments, physical (climate) and cultural. As there is for any immigrant.

There is a long road ahead of her. Thankfully she will get to walk it, aluve.


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At 18 she can get work pretty easy I would imagine and her spirit is strong, many immigrants have stories of desperate escapes from repressive countries and many of these are very successful in the countries that accepted them. She will do well. 

Sorry this was to be a response to another post clicked the wrong place. 

Edited January 13, 2019 by Oziex1

[CCjd]

I just don't get it. WHY are people bending over backwards for a teenager who has had an argument with her parents.

[ricklev]

5 minutes ago, CCjd said:

I just don't get it. WHY are people bending over backwards for a teenager who has had an argument with her parents.

You really don't get it! ????

Edited January 13, 2019 by ricklev

[farcanell]

2 minutes ago, skippy said:

I've not seen any proof where she was tortured and abused by her family in Saudi or Kuwait.

Be that as it may.... do you accept that now, having repudiated her “faith” and “run away” without obligatory male supervision, from a prominent Saudi family, she will now most likely face a nasty backlash from her family?

 

her past abuse, if any, aside... her future in Saudi Arabia, undoubtedly holds some degree of distress, given her actions of the last week.... and relief from that is surely warranted.

[Hummin]

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

Why not? She can even eat bacon and deep fried pigs blood now.

 

I still believe the arabs and persians to have some of the more tasty foods on this planet, and so far the Irish kitchen is in best case survival food ????

 

2 hours ago, BestB said:

I do not think world needs another Arab spring , first one did not work out so well, I doubt second one would be any safer or better.

The Arab spring wirked out quite well. All the extremeist fighting everywhere else than in the west, and we are selling more weapons and tech than ever to every country involved. Bonus on a bonus! We even make money on charity we shipp in that direction. 

[colinneil]

1 minute ago, CCjd said:

I just don't get it. WHY are people bending over backwards for a teenager who has had an argument with her parents.

What a pathetic comment, clearly you have no idea how girls /women are treated in Saudi.

They cannot go out alone, have to wear them ridiculous burghas/ hijabs, cannot speak to a male who is not a relative, cannot use makeup etc.

 

[pegman]

23 minutes ago, car720 said:

How long do you think it will take Saudi intelligence to locate her?  A quick trip in and out by an asset and she is history.

I'll put our Mounties (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) against the gang of Saudi losers who had each and every movement on their last assignment to Turkey recorded. I'm happy my country, out of some 200 odd, was the only one to step forward to protect this young woman. The rest have exposed themselves as pretty pathetic.

[mackayae]

Next stop Tim Hortons.

[cnx355]

3 hours ago, tifino said:

 

hope the Canadians don't eventually realise that they were simply just more 'convenient' to her, than the Aussies! That she wanted Australia, and Canada was a lesser choice...

Seems Canada was quicker to help in that case even if she already had documentation to travel to Australia.

[NightSky]

????

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

... This, combined with the recent state sanctioned murder of Khashoggi, leaves them in a place of near total isolation. ...

Dream on.

 

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

... As it stands now, what has Saudi Arabia done for the world lately? ...

When, more than 80 years after the first commercial oil discoveries and continuous production, they STILL have the worlds largest, single, contiguous oil reserves, what do they need to do?

 

PS. Don't forget to plug your electric car in tonight.

[stevenl]

50 minutes ago, car720 said:

How long do you think it will take Saudi intelligence to locate her?  A quick trip in and out by an asset and she is history.

I think this is a very valid point. I would be more worried about her family coming after her though.

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Where exactly did I defend Canada?

Inference by reference to another post.

 

2 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

I never said they would get to her, but clearly their presence added to this girl’s justifiable fears. 

Like this.

 

Don't sweat it.

[Danthai]

Thank you Canada for your humanitarian kindness. You showed your kindness again in 1975 taking many of the refugee families and children fleeing Vietnam. I'm sure she will be a good hardworking addition to your country. 

[CGW]

4 hours ago, tifino said:

hope the Canadians don't eventually realise that they were simply just more 'convenient' to her, than the Aussies! That she wanted Australia, and Canada was a lesser choice...

I know where my first choice would be  :-

[TonyClifton]

She reads, writes and speaks Arabic.  She speaks English.  She'll be fine.

 

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, BigC said:

Under stealth Islam they are allowed to break all their own laws if the end result is an attack on the west 

 

do hate me for what I say it’s based on the past and their holly book which I didn’t write so don’t blame me blame the man who wrote their book 

Hey, relax. We don't hate your or blame you. Take it easy, OK?

 

Now, where's the bloody "ignore" button again?

[DrTuner]

Canada seems to be the destination of choise for half of 3rd world population. I know three that have gotten a visa lately. Their open arms policy will backfire in an epic way.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Lupatria said:

... On the downturn I fear this will worsen the situation of women in Saudi Arabia. 

I was just thinking that myself. I would reckon a whole world of woe has just kicked in for women in KSA regardless of their aspirations.

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Cereal said:

...there are, by its own estimates, 2250 homeless vets wandering the streets living in fear and poverty.

Regardless of the nation, it all needs to start with an earnest wish to help oneself first.

[DrTuner]

34 minutes ago, CCjd said:

I just don't get it. WHY are people bending over backwards for a teenager who has had an argument with her parents.

Political brownie points to be had.

[atyclb]

kudos to pm treaudeau for doing something admirable and intelligent.

 

goes to show he has learned something about womens rights by carrying on like a little girl most of the time.

[Mainhattencitizen]

4 hours ago, YetAnother said:

Canada is now viewed as the hero in this story, could have been thailand if they were thinking

Thailand and thinking does not fit together

[theonetrueaussie]

4 hours ago, YetAnother said:

Canada is now viewed as the hero in this story, could have been thailand if they were thinking

Thailand don't have a free welfare system, she was never ever going to choose thailand.

[sawadeeken]

The only fear now is that there are masses of muslims in Toronto and Montreal who still hold strong to their muslim beliefs...... In this case they are obligater th KILL somebody who 'quits their religion abd becomes an 'infidel' (in their eyes)..

I have actually read in the news of a couple of honor killings by their own families....

I hope this young girl, as strong as she is, can 'Stay Safe'.......

[tifino]

38 minutes ago, farcanell said:

Umm... err.... mmmm

 

i thought that everyone (who could read, at least) knew that she had nominated Australia as her number one pick.... ergo, (unless Canadians can’t read), the Canadians already knew she was originally intending to head for Australia.

 

But as to a lessor choice... well, as an Aussie, I can understand that sentiment, but to her, perhaps it was simply not a considered option, for whatever reason ( snow and ice perhaps), so it (Canada) could or should be considered as a viable alternative, vs a lessor choice.

 

38 minutes ago, farcanell said:

 

 

yeah just some grammar nazis picking on the lessor word. A simple snatch grab on some word picture that her destination wasn't even in her list (of one) of preferences 

 

anyhows, the Canadian middle finger at the Saudis makes it all a moot point really...

 

Canadians just 'won' a time restricted Lottery

 

I think the grammar nazis assume incorrectly that I am having a go at Canadians? nah! the Saudis are the camel butt jokes of all this

 

or is it that they think I see her as the same as how a Thai girl latches onto a farang, any farang... to get a passport to freedom... not caring who or what in the middle; but the endgame?

 

 

She got her wish so be happy!