UK's Labour says it will back call for second Brexit referendum

[bomber]

22 minutes ago, aright said:

Britain's economy is set to boom and become the largest in Europe - because of Brexit 

 

Despite a global slowdown, Britain's economy  expanded by 1.4 per cent last year, with only 4 per cent unemployment. The Italian economy is going backward and Germany and France are on the verge of recession.

The Norwegian Sovereign Investment Fund ($1 trillion) has announced it will increase its UK holdings.

They confirmed their commitment to the UK, deal or no deal.

 

Foreign direct investment into the UK last year beat the USA, only China got more. British start up businesses got £8 billion in venture capital, more than France and Germany combined.

Boeing has opened its only manufacturing plant in Europe....in Sheffield.

Of the top 40 Universities in the world Britain has 7...…. as opposed to the EU which does not have one EU based institution that isn't in the UK.

 

Forbes magazine has just called the UK " the best place in the world to do business" for the second consecutive year.

 

Waiter! Bring me another Sipsmith and tonic!

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/02/28/britains-economy-set-boom-become-largest-europe-brexit/

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the norweign fund lost money in 2018 and as for boeing in sheffield its only created 52 jobs,that wont replace the 3-5000 airbus jobs that will go with brexit,if the country is doing so well why risk brexit,what ya saying is we are top of the league but need 11 new players to make us better,a very strange ideology.

[Laughing Gravy]

17 minutes ago, bomber said:

Soros is a trader and gets a lot wrong,he predicted the fall of the euro in 2011 long before brexit,you lot only jumped on the bandwagon 3 years ago,you were all wrong.As for hungary what has he done to them?

Actually I have known about him for many years. Yes was called a conspiracy theorist but guess what, all about him was true.

As for Hungary look it up a very good read indeed.

[bomber]

5 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Actually I have known about him for many years. Yes was called a conspiracy theorist but guess what, all about him was true.

As for Hungary look it up a very good read indeed.

not going to look it up,tired now of reading about losers moaning about people who have done well for themselves,soros is trader just like farage was,just a better one thats all,btw are you a communist?

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Firstly he isn't British and his only interest is monetary. he is a global elitist 'lacky' with the Rothschilds. Anyone who criticizes him and he plays the anti semantic card.

You may think whats best for Britain but 17.4 million disagree.

Just ask the Hungarians what they think of Soros. I would not be using him or Gina Miller as examples of 'championing democracy'. They are both puppets and love to play the victim card which really irritates me.

In case readers don't get it re Soros, neo-fascists make sure with the Rothschilds reference. As Hard Brexiteers start to think that March 30 isn't going to turn out the way they want it, the routine switches into blame mode and the Conspiracy guys know the routine. On the plus side, once they are into this, we know and they know they have lost. Well, maybe. Latest odds on no-deal Brexit by March 30: 11/2. 

[SheungWan]

Right now the Hard Brexit project by March 30 looks like dead meat or at least smelling a lot, notwithstanding the neo-fascist twitch coming from certain quarters which is somewhat the equivalent of a ritual hara-kiri as far as remaining in the political mainstream is concerned. Strangely, moving on, one might consider that the chances of a HB might be via, wait for it, a second referendum with HB on the menu.

[Grouse]

3 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Actually I have known about him for many years. Yes was called a conspiracy theorist but guess what, all about him was true.

As for Hungary look it up a very good read indeed.

Totally incorrect. See my Snopes piece on Soros. Don't post fake news here please.

[rixalex]

14 hours ago, Grouse said:

Non EU immigration way up! 261,000 last year! Highest in 15 years. Thanks Brexiters. What fools!

Always grumbling about immigrants you remainers.

 

Immigrants who haven't just sauntered in as they please, without establishing what their skills are, what their background is, should be welcomed. Britain needs immigrants. Unchecked immigrants are what Britain doesn't need. And that's what you support.

[Grouse]

Made the mistake of starting to watch Question Time. My how that program has been dumbed down. Lasted ten minutes and had to switch off. Low rent mob - that's just the panel! Again we have that useless gawky bint Fiona Bruce posing in front of the audience. Why? She has no control. I blame the BBC producer. I guess they try to make the program more appealing to a wider and younger (read Brain Dead) audience. Barry Gardiner is even worse than Diane Abbot. Waste of oxygen. Then we have a German "comedian"; why? And to spice things up a Breitbart style American Nazi from the New "Statesman". Pathetic 

[Grouse]

2 minutes ago, rixalex said:

Always grumbling about immigrants you remainers.

 

Immigrants who haven't just sauntered in as they please, without establishing what their skills are, what their background is, should be welcomed. Britain needs immigrants. Unchecked immigrants are what Britain doesn't need. And that's what you support.

EU migration from the East of Europe are now leaving. Net EU migration now down 70%. Great.

[rixalex]

17 hours ago, Grouse said:

Your beloved bank governor Carney obviated the need for a punishment budget by slashing interest rates and by QE easing. What would you have preferred? A stronger pound and a "punishment" budget? Come on, make your mind up! You've had a 1000 days to think about it.

 

The Chancellor should have known such actions could be taken to avoid a punishment budget, and therefore, no need to threaten the public with the punishment budget.

 

Unless of course the threat was simply made in order to help win the vote, and of course had it worked, nobody would have ever known that the punishment budget was a lie.

[rixalex]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

EU migration from the East of Europe are now leaving. Net EU migration now down 70%. Great.

Grumbling about non EU immigration being too high. Grumbling about EU immigration being too low. Grumble, grumble, grumble. This is your problem. Stop segregating. Start treating all immigrants as equals.

[rixalex]

7 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Barry Gardiner is even worse than Diane Abbot. Waste of oxygen.

Agreed. The church's gain was Parliament's loss, when he chose politics over religion.

[evadgib]

3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

In case readers don't get it re Soros, neo-fascists make sure with the Rothschilds reference. As Hard Brexiteers start to think that March 30 isn't going to turn out the way they want it, the routine switches into blame mode and the Conspiracy guys know the routine. On the plus side, once they are into this, we know and they know they have lost. Well, maybe. Latest odds on no-deal Brexit by March 30: 11/2. 

Once again putting words into everyone elses mouth except your own.

Do you ever let up?

[Morch]

5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Firstly he isn't British and his only interest is monetary. he is a global elitist 'lacky' with the Rothschilds. Anyone who criticizes him and he plays the anti semantic card.

You may think whats best for Britain but 17.4 million disagree.

 

Just ask the Hungarians what they think of Soros. I would not be using him or Gina Miller as examples of 'championing democracy'. They are both puppets and love to play the victim card which really irritates me.

 

"I'm not an anti semantic(?), but but but Soros, but but but Rothschilds, but but but global elites".

"I'm not a conspiracy theorist but but but....."

etc...

[Nigel Garvie]

6 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

"I'm not an anti semantic(?), but but but Soros, but but but Rothschilds, but but but global elites".

"I'm not a conspiracy theorist but but but....."

etc...

It is with great pleasure that I read this post. It had me trying to figure out what "Anti-semantic" could possibly mean. An anti-semantic I now realize is someone who is against linguistics- see below.

semantics | sɪˈmantɪks | plural noun [usually treated as singular] the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning.  

 

In Edinburgh we have the REH. Our local hospital for mental problems, (Bi-polar, Alcoholics, Junkies etc) One special ward is devoted to conspiracy theorists. If you mention Soros, Rothschilds, and Vaccination/Autism in the same communication you get sent there. Free accommodation and meals also!

[vogie]

43 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Made the mistake of starting to watch Question Time. My how that program has been dumbed down. Lasted ten minutes and had to switch off. Low rent mob - that's just the panel! Again we have that useless gawky bint Fiona Bruce posing in front of the audience. Why? She has no control. I blame the BBC producer. I guess they try to make the program more appealing to a wider and younger (read Brain Dead) audience. Barry Gardiner is even worse than Diane Abbot. Waste of oxygen. Then we have a German "comedian"; why? And to spice things up a Breitbart style American Nazi from the New "Statesman". Pathetic 

I guess you make your appraisals on what you like to hear, vis a vis, if they don't agree with you they are "low rent mob, morons, brain dead, American Nazi" it is really time you started to listen to other peoples opinion and 'dumb down your insults.

 

Agree with your opinion on Barry Gardiner, every question is a party political broadcast to him.

 

But the worst panellist by a country mile was the LibDem Layla Moran, pity she wan't a leaver, you could have done wonders with her name. Why didn't you mention her? The whole audience took an instant dislike to the 'I am right and the rest of you are wrong attitude', what a self rightious person she is, she fits in well with the Lib Dems.

 

 

[nauseus]

9 hours ago, bomber said:

sovereignty ????  

Yes, sovereignty.

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, tebee said:

.....and of course many people have said students should not be included in the immigration figure as it distorts and inflates the total . But one certain Theresa May, when she was home secretary, vehemently opposed this.

 

... which is doubly strange as it made the Conservatives target of 100,000 per year migration completely unobtainable  

Well, she is strange.

[Grouse]

4 hours ago, bomber said:

the norweign fund lost money in 2018 and as for boeing in sheffield its only created 52 jobs,that wont replace the 3-5000 airbus jobs that will go with brexit,if the country is doing so well why risk brexit,what ya saying is we are top of the league but need 11 new players to make us better,a very strange ideology.

Norway certainly don't want to risk UK applying to join EFTA!

[Grouse]

10 minutes ago, vogie said:

I guess you make your appraisals on what you like to hear, vis a vis, if they don't agree with you they are "low rent mob, morons, brain dead, American Nazi" it is really time you started to listen to other peoples opinion and 'dumb down your insults.

 

Agree with your opinion on Barry Gardiner, every question is a party political broadcast to him.

 

But the worst panellist by a country mile was the LibDem Layla Moran, pity she wan't a leaver, you could have done wonders with her name. Why didn't you mention her? The whole audience took an instant dislike to the 'I am right and the rest of you are wrong attitude', what a self rightious person she is, she fits in well with the Lib Dems.

 

 

She was crap also. Happy now?

 

Its not so much the panellists but the useless ring master.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5750201/Emma-Barnett-praised-grills-Barry-Gardiner-Andrew-Marr-show.html

 

I thought I posted this? Maybe not. This bird would have been a much better choice.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Grouse

[nauseus]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

In case readers don't get it re Soros, neo-fascists make sure with the Rothschilds reference. As Hard Brexiteers start to think that March 30 isn't going to turn out the way they want it, the routine switches into blame mode and the Conspiracy guys know the routine. On the plus side, once they are into this, we know and they know they have lost. Well, maybe. Latest odds on no-deal Brexit by March 30: 11/2. 

[evadgib]

Update on the depth of protest foreseen a few days ago:

 

Edited March 1, 2019 by evadgib

[dick dasterdly]

37 minutes ago, Grouse said:

She was crap also. Happy now?

 

Its not so much the panellists but the useless ring master.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5750201/Emma-Barnett-praised-grills-Barry-Gardiner-Andrew-Marr-show.html

 

I thought I posted this? Maybe not. This bird would have been a much better choice.

"This bird would have been a much better choice."

 

Misogynist much? ????

 

I base this not only on the above post, but also a previous post in which you said something along the lines of QT needed to get another man as the 'ring master'.

 

Perhaps you now understand why I don't openly 'advertise' on this forum that I'm a female?

[Grouse]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

"This bird would have been a much better choice."

 

Misogynist much? ????

 

I base this not only on the above post, but also a previous post in which you said something along the lines of QT needed to get another man as the 'ring master'.

 

Perhaps you now understand why I don't openly 'advertise' on this forum that I'm a female?

I'm no mysogynist; some of my best friends are wimmin!

 

At 65 years old I'm not going to take lessons from you, Madame.

 

Finally I don't give a damn what sex you are. The fact is that Fiona Bruce is hopeless compare to Dimbleby or Day

[Nigel Garvie]

2 hours ago, Morch said:

 

"I'm not an anti semantic(?), but but but Soros, but but but Rothschilds, but but but global elites".

"I'm not a conspiracy theorist but but but....."

etc...

You appear to have misunderstood my post from your confused emoji. I obviously lacked clarity, apologies. I completely agreed with what you wrote, I was just having fun with the Semantic word which I assumed you were yourself quoting from elsewhere.

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, dick dasterdly said:

"This bird would have been a much better choice."

 

Misogynist much? ????

 

I base this not only on the above post, but also a previous post in which you said something along the lines of QT needed to get another man as the 'ring master'.

 

Perhaps you now understand why I don't openly 'advertise' on this forum that I'm a female?

 

13 minutes ago, Grouse said:

I'm no mysogynist; some of my best friends are wimmin!

 

At 65 years old I'm not going to take lessons from you, Madame.

 

Finally I don't give a damn what sex you are. The fact is that Fiona Bruce is hopeless compare to Dimbleby or Day

"At 65 years old I'm not going to take lessons from you, Madame."

 

You don't give up on your misogynist attitude do you.....

 

My post wasn't in any way a "lesson", it was only pointing out the obvious.

[Loiner]

 
Finally I don't give a damn what sex you are. The fact is that Fiona Bruce is hopeless compare to Dimbleby or Day

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1094113/bbc-question-time-latest-news-barry-gardiner-fiona-bruce-labour-party-antisemitism
Fiona put it to the audience, who returned a deafening silence when asked if they agree with LAB Barry Gardiner.

Sounds like she’s doing a pretty good job.


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[Grouse]

19 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

 

"At 65 years old I'm not going to take lessons from you, Madame."

 

You don't give up on your misogynist attitude do you.....

 

My post wasn't in any way a "lesson", it was only pointing out the obvious.

Your usage of the term misogynist is not the same as mine then. I like women, I don't hate them

 

I don't consider the word "bird" misogynistic. I don't go for political correctness. I don't use words such as chairperson, ringmistress or womenkind. It's all crap.

[Kwasaki]

On 2/26/2019 at 5:54 AM, webfact said:

The Remain Labour campaign group, which wants to stop Brexit, said the announcement was "a significant step forward".

Cor blimey if they had brains they'd be dangerous. ????

[aright]

On 2/26/2019 at 8:41 AM, aright said:

Nontabury…...We will of course live in a democracy when we leave the EU.

Of course, if we stay in we will continue to be in the grip of the Lisbon Treaty (do you remember that one....it was the one Gordon Brown signed without asking us if we approved and you are right, I fear history is repeating itself). As a result we would not be able to make our own trade deals, set our own tariffs, set our own trade quotas, control our fishing rights, not be in full control of our taxation policy, not be in full control of our borders, the judicial system, international and national policy, aviation and sea lane jurisdiction, etc.

Remainers, of course, would see this as a fair trade off for buying a Japanese car made in the UK. 

 

 

9 hours ago, bomber said:

the norweign fund lost money in 2018 and as for boeing in sheffield its only created 52 jobs,that wont replace the 3-5000 airbus jobs that will go with brexit,if the country is doing so well why risk brexit,what ya saying is we are top of the league but need 11 new players to make us better,a very strange ideology.

It might come as a great shock to you but when stock markets fall globally, funds loose money. In 2017 they had a positive return on investment of 13.7% . Worldwide they own 1.4 % of all equities I don't see them going bankrupt.

 

I am not saying we are top of the league neither is the respected economist Liam Halligan. What part of "set to boom" suggests we are top shelf.

 

Boeings new factory is a start. Did you think they were going to employ 1000 immediately? As for loosing airbus jobs...…..part of the conjecture of fear.

This is what Boeing say

"In the UK, we employ people across more than 60 sites, including Scotland, Wales and Ireland, and we’re growing. Our long relationship with the UK aerospace industry, armed forces and commercial aviation sector dates back more than 80 years. Today, the UK remains a critically important market and supplier base, as well as a source of some of the world's most innovative technology partners."

As to why risk Brexit I have said it before Brexit isn't all about Japanese cars....….see my first quote