UK's Labour says it will back call for second Brexit referendum

[melvinmelvin]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Not to me they haven't.

 

You explain to me then.....

I just did

reminding politicians of the need to follow their promises, Brexit on the 29th

that is what they say

 

wishes beyond that I have not heard or read anything about

 

in an entry just up the street here tebee has a point when he says that it seems

like Brexit has become an end/goal in itself, the waters beyond Brexit still being somewhat murky

 

[Grouse]

5 minutes ago, tebee said:

Brexit seems to have become an end in itself, rather than any benefits accruing from it. 

So the rest of us will put up with being poorer and all kinds of damage so that the morons get no benefit that they can explain? How sensible is that?

 

Instead of walking to Westminster, why don't they walk to Copenhagen or Amsterdam or Munich and see how others live?

 

I just find the depth of stupidity utterly amazing! ????

[Grouse]

1 minute ago, melvinmelvin said:

I just did

reminding politicians of the need to follow their promises, Brexit on the 29th

that is what they say

 

wishes beyond that I have not heard or read anything about

 

in an entry just up the street here tebee has a point when he says that it seems

like Brexit has become an end/goal in itself, the waters beyond Brexit still being somewhat murky

 

Fine. F it! Go for a no deal Brexit. It doesn't affect me personally. Let the morons suffer. I shall laugh at their self inflicted hardship.

[melvinmelvin]

4 minutes ago, Grouse said:

So the rest of us will put up with being poorer and all kinds of damage so that the morons get no benefit that they can explain? How sensible is that?

 

Instead of walking to Westminster, why don't they walk to Copenhagen or Amsterdam or Munich and see how others live?

 

I just find the depth of stupidity utterly amazing! ????

 

the behaviour of animals in the real world is frequently perceived as amazing,

just ask Attenborough

 

[melvinmelvin]

2 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Fine. F it! Go for a no deal Brexit. It doesn't affect me personally. Let the morons suffer. I shall laugh at their self inflicted hardship.

calm down, they are not shouting no-deal Brexit, but Brexit.

ie may-deal included

 

[melvinmelvin]

6 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Fine. F it! Go for a no deal Brexit. It doesn't affect me personally. Let the morons suffer. I shall laugh at their self inflicted hardship.

 

you stemming from Yorkshire and all,

 

here is an aside that should help you calm down

 

 

 

 

and, top it off with a Monkey Shoulder

 

 

 

 

[Grouse]

 

More wise words from HoL. Viscount Hailsham is no fool.

Edited March 1, 2019 by Grouse

[Grouse]

 

[bomber]

slightly off topic but here is another barmy law passed by our supposed superior nation,the europeans will be laffing yet again.

'Right to rent' checks breach human rights - High Court - BBC News.html

[bomber]

and another calamity to add to the list,getting more expensive by the day this brexit lark,

Government pays Eurotunnel £33m over Brexit ferry case - BBC News.html

[bomber]

4 hours ago, aright said:

I can help

 

 

Manufacturing job losses 'at six-year high' - BBC News.html

[melvinmelvin]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

 

More wise words from HoL. Viscount Hailsham is no fool.

 

Pretty good speech, he is a formidable orator, would be even better if he didn't have to rely on his manuscript.

Full marks for his very distinct pronunciation and slow speak,

and his incredibly simple language, he is in class with, if not better than, Bill Clinton.

Even Brexiteers should get his message. 5555

 

Disagree with his bits on UK and decline though, but never mind.

 

However,

he is somewhat out of touch with reality.

For years Cameron was rambling about a referendum on EU membership,

the referendum was arranged and the result was majority leave.

That is the mural.

The good viscount simply choses to disregard that. Not so good.

 

His ideas about revoking A50 and then negotiate a UK brexit deal while being a full member of EU?

Dream on viscount.

 

 

 

 

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[evadgib]

You'll love this....

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/nigel-farage-become-pm-general-election/

[bomber]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

You'll love this....

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nigel-farage/nigel-farage-become-pm-general-election/

we have a comedian on the board ????

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Grouse said:

 

Is this what passes for humour these days in the UK? Smutty jokes, foul language and over the top reactions to everything,with a very slim and tenuous connection to comedy.

We should leave the EU out of shame.

[evadgib]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

 

If I went all 'Pat Condell' that's what it would look like ????

[SheungWan]

3 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

I just did

reminding politicians of the need to follow their promises, Brexit on the 29th

that is what they say

wishes beyond that I have not heard or read anything about

in an entry just up the street here tebee has a point when he says that it seems

like Brexit has become an end/goal in itself, the waters beyond Brexit still being somewhat murky

You mean no-deal Hard Brexit on the 29th.

[billd766]

On 2/28/2019 at 11:26 AM, Spidey said:

"Worry", what's that? Haven't done it for years. Is it still painful?

 

[melvinmelvin]

7 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

You mean no-deal Hard Brexit on the 29th.

no,

 

at least as far as I have read, that is not what they say

they say Brexit on the 29th, one way or the other

I interpret that as including may-deal

 

but I guess no-deal is their preferred action

 

mai pen rai

 

walking from the shipyards to the political barracks is sound exercise

many will arrive leaner, good start for enduring the past 29th when

supermarkets run out of calories

 

 

my gaaaawd, isn't it high time you Brits get organized?

and get this bloody process on rails

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[billd766]

On 2/28/2019 at 6:53 PM, Spidey said:

Social class is inversely proportional to intelligence. Something to do with inbreeding.

 

You could also listen to him speaking and draw your own conclusions.

What a load of tripe.

 

I have heard him speaking and he has one of the abilities that you seem to lack.

 

He can laugh at himself.

 

He rarely raises his voice and if he is on radio or in an interview he seems genuinely interested about the person he is talking to.

 

On 2/28/2019 at 7:01 PM, Spidey said:

YMMV.

Yours certainly does.

[tomacht8]

1 hour ago, melvinmelvin said:

no,

 

at least as far as I have read, that is not what they say

they say Brexit on the 29th, one way or the other

I interpret that as including may-deal

 

but I guess no-deal is their preferred action

 

mai pen rai

 

walking from the shipyards to the political barracks is sound exercise

many will arrive leaner, good start for enduring the past 29th when

supermarkets run out of calories

 

 

my gaaaawd, isn't it high time you Brits get organized?

and get this bloody process on rails

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This time I can only agree with you.

 

The UK Parliament has to stop listening to the screaming on the streets, ignore the terrible UK press and do what is the best for the UK (52% + 48%) overall.

Parliament is sovereign and that is what the wood heads also paid for.

[CG1 Blue]

5 hours ago, Grouse said:

Wake up Melvin for goodness sake.

 

Leaving the EU is a political change

 

What concrete benefits to these people ACTUALLY want? More secure employment? Better services? Bigger pensions? Cheaper food? What? WHAT?

As has been pointed out many times before, it is freedom from EU law makers, the ability to make our own laws and regulations to suit OUR country rather than the one size fits all approach from the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, plus an escape from the ever closer union that those same bureaucrats crave. We'll never get another chance to escape. People think it's difficult to leave the EU now. In 5-10 years time it'll be impossible. 

 

As a nation of innovators and resilience we are more than capable of navigating the rocky waters that may follow a no deal Brexit, as has been proven so many times in the past. 

Personally I (and I suspect most other Brexiteers) would prefer to leave with a deal.  But unfortunately the majority our MPs are determined to stop Brexit, and may just force a no deal departure with their antics. 

 

 

[tomacht8]

2 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

As has been pointed out many times before, it is freedom from EU law makers, the ability to make our own laws and regulations to suit OUR country rather than the one size fits all approach from the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, plus an escape from the ever closer union that those same bureaucrats crave. We'll never get another chance to escape. People think it's difficult to leave the EU now. In 5-10 years time it'll be impossible. 

 

As a nation of innovators and resilience we are more than capable of navigating the rocky waters that may follow a no deal Brexit, as has been proven so many times in the past. 

Personally I (and I suspect most other Brexiteers) would prefer to leave with a deal.  But unfortunately the majority our MPs are determined to stop Brexit, and may just force a no deal departure with their antics. 

 

 

I do not see it that way.

I think more of a meaningful Brexit needs 5 years +.

 

As a nation of innovators?

You are already aware that the UK has received the most research projects from the EU funds ?

[CG1 Blue]

1 hour ago, tomacht8 said:

I do not see it that way.

I think more of a meaningful Brexit needs 5 years +.

 

As a nation of innovators?

You are already aware that the UK has received the most research projects from the EU funds ?

So the EU decides what to do with our money, and gives some of it back to us for the projects they choose. Why can't we choose what do with our money? 

[bomber]

14 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

As has been pointed out many times before, it is freedom from EU law makers, the ability to make our own laws and regulations to suit OUR country rather than the one size fits all approach from the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels, plus an escape from the ever closer union that those same bureaucrats crave. We'll never get another chance to escape. People think it's difficult to leave the EU now. In 5-10 years time it'll be impossible. 

 

As a nation of innovators and resilience we are more than capable of navigating the rocky waters that may follow a no deal Brexit, as has been proven so many times in the past. 

Personally I (and I suspect most other Brexiteers) would prefer to leave with a deal.  But unfortunately the majority our MPs are determined to stop Brexit, and may just force a no deal departure with their antics. 

 

 

another mad law and regulation made by OUR country today,if the EU had made it your toys would of been out the pram,

'Right to rent' checks breach human rights - High Court - BBC News.html

[tomacht8]

16 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So the EU decides what to do with our money, and gives some of it back to us for the projects they choose. Why can't we choose what do with our money? 

The grant distribution of the EU is based on competition. Competition of the best in europe. The competition is open to all research institutes in europe. 

The European Research Conservatory looks which projects are usefull.

Researchers of the uk are also sitting in this body.

Look at which research projects and topics the UK got funded by the EU.

https://rio.jrc.ec.europa.eu/en/country-analysis/United Kingdom

 

Joint european research pays off.

You understand?

[bomber]

36 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

So the EU decides what to do with our money, and gives some of it back to us for the projects they choose. Why can't we choose what do with our money? 

your country chose to spend £16 million to hire ships from a company that had no ships,now its £33 million compensation to eurotunnel,you couldnt make it up,give me the EU anyday,innovators may backside.

Government award £13.8m Brexit ferry contract to company with no ships _ Latest Brexit news and top stories - The New European.html Government pays Eurotunnel £33m over Brexit ferry case - BBC News.html

[CG1 Blue]

12 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

The grant distribution of the EU is based on competition. Competition of the best in europe. The competition is open to all research institutes in europe. 

The European Research Conservatory looks which projects are usefull.

Researchers of the uk are also sitting in this body.

Look at which research projects and topics the UK got funded by the EU.

https://rio.jrc.ec.europa.eu/en/country-analysis/United Kingdom

 

Joint european research pays off.

You understand?

I do understand.  We let others decide where our money goes. Simple 

And there is no reason why we can't do joint research in the future with Europe, from outside the club. They don't have to become our enemy. 

 

And by the way, the UK receives a relatively high amount of funding because we have great innovators and researchers. 

Edited March 1, 2019 by CG1 Blue

[CG1 Blue]

4 minutes ago, bomber said:

your country chose to spend £16 million to hire ships from a company that had no ships,now its £33 million compensation to eurotunnel,you couldnt make it up,give me the EU anyday,innovators may backside.

Government award £13.8m Brexit ferry contract to company with no ships _ Latest Brexit news and top stories - The New European.html 422.3 kB · 0 downloads Government pays Eurotunnel £33m over Brexit ferry case - BBC News.html 213.52 kB · 0 downloads

Yes, and you know what we can do if we don't like the way our government is spending our money? We can vote them out in general election. 

[tomacht8]

1 minute ago, CG1 Blue said:

I do understand.  We let others decide where our money goes. Simple 

And there is no reason why we can't do joint research in the future with Europe, from outside the club. They don't have to become our enemy. 

Sorry man.

You do Not get it.

Your UK People sitting in all EU Bodies.

 

Sometimes I think that people criticize the EU and do not know how the EU works.