Thailand looks to India for new wave of high spending senior citizen tourists

[DrTuner]

13 minutes ago, Monkeyrobot said:

I was at Koh Larn and I witnessed two Indians in there mid 50s arguing with a beach chair boy over 10Baht. 

It's a sport. I wonder what they would do in a Turkish Bazaar trying to buy a carpet. It could go on for decades.

 

Not my cuppa tea, I throw the silver in the pot and grab what I need as fast as possible. Shopping and haggling cuts into the available beer drinking time.

[dcnx]

33 minutes ago, Swedenlars said:

Really ? Do they have a horizontal one ????

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They will do things Indians won’t. Thai woman didn’t get their reputation by being angels.

[Swedenlars]

They will do things Indians won’t. Thai woman didn’t get their reputation by being angels.

True. Thats why Indian men gang rape girls in their country. And sometimes kill them also. Not true ? Search in google. By the way, what is your
intrepretation of a woman beeing "an angel" ? Maybe you are an indian man.

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[lungbing]

3 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

Somewhat erroneously?  Pray tell us who colonized Thailand?  

The Japanese 1941 to 1945

[dallen52]

Well goodness gracious me ????????????

[onera1961]

5 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

You are missing the point. There were thousands of very high end Western spenders for many years. Few have decided to return. We are not talking about ex-pats on a budget here. We are talking about the $2000 to $4000 a day tourists. Very few high end Chinese coming. Very few will come. Same with Indians. Services are not up to par. Thailand continues to miss the mark. 

It is true that repeat high spenders have started to decline many years ago before the crack down and influx of digital nomads, rise of YouTube videos about how cheap it is to live in Thailand and the person in the video with a grin on his lips will show you how he can eat chicken/Rice for $2, as if he has discovered a gold mine. What do all these indicate?

 

There is nothing in Thailand to bring repeat high spenders and there are much more places in Asia to explore. Why repeat high spenders will keep coming to the same place to inhale smog and smell stinky sois? 

 

Except availability of sex on cheap, there is really nothing. Sex is available in Western countries also but it is expensive. 

I spend 6-month in Thailand, 3-month in Las Vegas (home town), and 3-month in Benidorm. And I am by no means a high spenders and over the years I have reduced my spending. When I came here 15 years ago, I was blowing 10K BHT/per day on girls and other stuff you know I cant mention in the forum. 

 

Things change and dynamics change. Thailand wants to grow its tourism industry and they are trying to tap to the rising middle class in China and Asia. I cant blame them for that It is survival 101. 

[SheungWan]

Thailand certainly needs this initiative. There is a terrible shortage of Indian restaurants in Pattaya.

[Spidey]

7 hours ago, lungbing said:

The Japanese 1941 to 1945

The Angkor Empire. Thais still dislike Cambodians.

[marcusarelus]

7 hours ago, lungbing said:

The Japanese 1941 to 1945

Thailand was Japan's only willing ally during WWII.  Not at all colonization by any stretch of the imagination.  Thailand fought with Japan when invading Burma.  Who gave you such odd information?

[micmichd]

9 hours ago, DrTuner said:

This used to be quite normal with Western snowbirds, buying a holiday home and spending a few months in it, with all the modern trappings. Doesn't seem like it's happening anymore, the Chinese took that over too. Westies seem to be selling and leaving. At least there are buyers.

Go to see Westies selling condos, it keeps the prices down. 

The "Chinese" you mention may in fact be Thais from Yaowarat or some other Chinatown in Thailand. Thai property laws stipulates restrictions on land ownership for foreigners, and I guess people from mainland China are regarded as foreigners, too. 

[soalbundy]

The bar girls had better get used to some geriatric head wobblers.

[micmichd]

22 minutes ago, Spidey said:

The Angkor Empire. Thais still dislike Cambodians.

Cambodians are called "Khmer". The Khmer Empire once included parts of the Issan, which is now East Thailand - but the Issanis now hold a majority in Thailand. 

One thing you can be sure of: If more and more Westerners go to ASEAN Cambodia now, it will get the same over there. So Westerners might as well go to Issan and eventually stay there until they die. BTW the Issan begins right behind the Chonburi Hills east of Pattaya - the Eastern Economic Corridor.

[Spidey]

4 minutes ago, micmichd said:

Cambodians are called "Khmer". The Khmer Empire once included parts of the Issan, which is now East Thailand - but the Issanis now hold a majority in Thailand. 

The Khmer Empire can alternatively be called The Angkor Empire. Cambodians refer to themselves as "Khmai", their language is Khmer. The Empire included pretty much the whole of what is now Thailand, not just Issan, which is North East Thailand not Eastern Thailand.

[soalbundy]

Just now, micmichd said:

Cambodians are called "Khmer". The Khmer Empire once included parts of the Issan, which is now East Thailand - but the Issanis now hold a majority in Thailand. 

but they think of themselves as Thai, not Cambodian, even the Khmer language is dying out in Isaan, if you listen to Isaan children playing they all speak Thai together not Khmern. In Surin you rarely hear Khmern being spoken on the street by anybody.

[Spidey]

10 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

but they think of themselves as Thai, not Cambodian, even the Khmer language is dying out in Isaan, if you listen to Isaan children playing they all speak Thai together not Khmern. In Surin you rarely hear Khmern being spoken on the street by anybody.

Khmen spoken in Surin is substantially different to Khmer spoken in Phnom Penh. It's a dialect peculiar to a couple of Cambodian provinces bordering Thailand. I spent the best part of a year in Cambodia and picked up some Khmer, completely useless when speaking to the girls from Surin.

[micmichd]

18 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

The bar girls had better get used to some geriatric head wobblers.

Welcome to the hub of wellness and geriatric medicine ????

[micmichd]

11 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Khmen spoken in Surin is substantially different to Khmer spoken in Phnom Penh. It's a dialect peculiar to a couple of Cambodian provinces bordering Thailand. I spent the best part of a year in Cambodia and picked up some Khmer, completely useless when speaking to the girls from Surin.

See how well integrated in Thailand they are now. My peer family from Surin once were Khmer immigrants, and they refer to themselves as nothing but Thai.

[tigerfeet]

devalue the thai baht no need to do anything else 

 

[micmichd]

9 hours ago, Swedenlars said:

True. Thats why Indian men gang rape girls in their country. And sometimes kill them also. Not true ? Search in google. By the way, what is your
intrepretation of a woman beeing "an angel" ? Maybe you are an indian man.

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What a mess here. Please read Kama Sutra if you want to get an idea about sex and family life - but the whole book. 

The ancient Hindu traditions of buying men for Indian women and burning widows should be over now. Many Indian women (as well as Thai women) got jobs now and can stand on their own feet. 

[Sydebolle]

That must be related to TATs 59th, 40th or 23rd birthday. 

Whoever knows Thailand and its people will be able to attest the racism and hatred against most non-Thais, particularly dark skinned South Asians. Is it because latter being smarter, more educated or speaking English - I never found out.

But there is a Thai proverb proclaiming, that if you pass a snake and an Indian while holding a pistol with two bullets, you should shoot the Indian twice. 

This idea will go down particularly well ................ 

[GoodieAfterDark]

On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 5:56 PM, Matt96 said:

did you ever visit India? do you know how much shabby service and rip-offs there?

 

maybe that's why Indians come to Thailand.

 

 

[micmichd]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

The Khmer Empire can alternatively be called The Angkor Empire. Cambodians refer to themselves as "Khmai", their language is Khmer. The Empire included pretty much the whole of what is now Thailand, not just Issan, which is North East Thailand not Eastern Thailand.

OK, Lanna and the Thai part of the "Golden Triangle", too. 

[GoodieAfterDark]

On ‎3‎/‎18‎/‎2019 at 6:07 PM, nasa123 said:

 Indians like and stay at the hotel all day and stroll along the sea in the evening and right back to the hotel. No bus tours no boat trips on these guys good luck. 

I need to check my nationality. I guess I am part Indian.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, micmichd said:

Many Indian women  got jobs now and can stand on their own feet. 

Until they get knocked off their feet and gang banged by a gang of Indian men, who are then not prosecuted because "she asked for it". Welcome to the real world of India.

[Spidey]

4 minutes ago, micmichd said:

OK, Lanna and the Thai part of the "Golden Triangle", too. 

Correct. Lanna was under the rule of the Burmese.

[micmichd]

6 minutes ago, GoodieAfterDark said:

 

 

This Western tourist is obviously not able to sit down, put his camera away and behave like a normal native. What does he expect from India? 

If he wants to make a movie, the Sahib should pay the actors and actresses, at least give them a big tip.

[GoodieAfterDark]

22 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Chinese are currently the biggest non-Thai property buyers by some considerable margin. 

It seems like the Chinese own most of the hotels. When I was in BKK I felt like I was in San Francisco. I see no reason to travel twelve thousand miles to see Chinese. Lots Chinese tours would come and go while I was in the hotel.

[Spidey]

4 minutes ago, micmichd said:

This Western tourist is obviously not able to sit down, put his camera away and behave like a normal native. What does he expect from India? 

If he wants to make a movie, the Sahib should pay the actors and actresses, at least give them a big tip.

Indians wander around everywhere, constantly pointing their phones at everything, so I guess he was behaving like a native. Sahib just means "man" or "Mister". Not specifically used for tourists.

 

The vlog is part of a series Harald Badar did on his trip to India. Very informative.

[GoodieAfterDark]

12 minutes ago, micmichd said:

This Western tourist is obviously not able to sit down, put his camera away and behave like a normal native. What does he expect from India? 

If he wants to make a movie, the Sahib should pay the actors and actresses, at least give them a big tip.

 Another day I watched this video made by a Chinese American that was very excited to rent a house in BKK for $ 400. a month. The place look like dump and he would smile walking around the house showing the place. He showed  his "herb" garden that was 12 inches by 12 inches with some weeds in, saying that it was his predilect place in the house. In the last part of his video he  offered some of his hats for sale. 

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said:

Strange.

 

There were posters on here very vehement that Thais loved Indians and Indian food especially.

 

????

I like Indian food. However, my wife absolutely refuses to enter an Indian restaurant. Describes the food as "kee kaek".