Hundreds of thousands march in London to demand new Brexit referendum

[welovesundaysatspace]

33 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

the number stated were a lie, Lie Lie lie. 

Like Brexit? 

[TopDeadSenter]

35 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Regardless which you are trying to deflect very badly, is that the number stated were a lie, Lie Lie lie. Commonly known as Fake news.

Yes the lie that up to a million people joined the anti-Brexit protest is a howler. For some perspective this is what the approx 400.000 strong crowd at Woodstock looked like. The BBC and others should be ashamed of themselves. The anti-Brexit march was but a tiny fraction of the Woodstock crowd, you know the fix is in when they use street level photos to boast about crowd numbers.

[Laughing Gravy]

7 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Like Brexit? 

Now you have gone back to the ridiculous. Obviously you were one of those who sat at the back of class in school, not paying any attention.

[welovesundaysatspace]

6 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

Now you have gone back to the ridiculous. Obviously you were one of those who sat at the back of class in school, not paying any attention.

Wait for it...

[Spidey]

10 hours ago, Forethat said:

I didn't get it wrong. The legal situation is extraordinarily clear:

1. For UK to delay Brexit the law must be amended. I appreciate this message struggles to get across, but hey ho...

2. To amend the law, ministers can use a statutory instrument. I think most on here have managed to grasp this by now (well, there's always the one... you should probably read here: https://www.parliament.uk/about/how/laws/secondary-legislation/statutory-instruments-relating-to-brexit/ )

3. The initial March 29th Brexit requires the same statute book to be prepared. As of March 16th, there were 247 out of an estimated 600 prepared. It swings both ways. https://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/CBP-8496

 

You don't seem to acknowledge the difference between Brexit and legal proceedings vs. constitutional kerfuffle. So, with the risk of coming across as someone using the same voice as someone speaking to an idiot, a small child or PPI customer service: from a legal and constitutional perspective UK can't remain in the EU longer than March 29th unless the law is changed. If we remain without changing it there will be legal and constitutional implications and the whole thing is likely to end up in the courts.

Feel free to tend to your popcorn cart for the remainder of the day. And by all means, post your best popcorn-making tips on here; I have children who would love to learn from a professional.

 

 

Nice piece on parliamentary law. However, totally irrelevant as the SI will be in place by the 29th. It's already before the HoL. We will not be crashing out on 29th, the smart money is on a delay of at least 12 months. During that time, the smart money is on a 2nd referendum, May's deal or remain.

 

Pity that the Brexiteers don't have many smarts amongst their number.

[stephenterry]

On 3/24/2019 at 2:20 PM, Pilotman said:

haha that made me laugh.  It's a undemocratic institution, run by geriatric idiots, that has not had its accounts signed off by its auditors for over 20 years;  that supports corrupt and degenerate Eastern European members, who have no cultural links with Northern Europe at all.  We know how it all works;  badly! 

https://economia.icaew.com/news/september-2017/eu-accounts-signed-off-with-clean-opinion

[Loiner]

Nice piece on parliamentary law. However, totally irrelevant as the SI will be in place by the 29th. It's already before the HoL. We will not be crashing out on 29th, the smart money is on a delay of at least 12 months. During that time, the smart money is on a 2nd referendum, May's deal or remain.
 
Pity that the Brexiteers don't have many smarts amongst their number.

Your smart money is not so smart. They’re the same ones who skewed the odds at the bookies for a Remain result. All you middle class southerners having a flutter on what you all though was a sure thing. They made a fortune out of you lot. LMFAO.
https://www.casino.org/news/brexit-passes-why-did-bookies-get-it-wrong

[Spidey]

Just now, Loiner said:

Your smart money is not so smart. They’re the same ones who skewed the odds at the bookies for a Remain result. All you middle class southerners having a flutter on what you all though was a sure thing. They made a fortune out of you lot. LMFAO.
https://www.casino.org/news/brexit-passes-why-did-bookies-get-it-wrong

Lol. Middle class Southerner? I've never been so insulted in all my life! Born in a council house in the far North of England. Voted Labour all my life and former T.U. official.

 

Thanks for reminding me that Brexiteers, generally, are thick as pigshite. You're comedy gold mate, you really are!

[malagateddy]

Well Spiday..you must think that the imo sociopath and war criminal Blair should be made a saint ???

Lol. Middle class Southerner? I've never been so insulted in all my life! Born in a council house in the far North of England. Voted Labour all my life and former T.U. official.
 
Thanks for reminding me that Brexiteers, generally, are thick as pigshite. You're comedy gold mate, you really are!

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[Spidey]

Just now, malagateddy said:

Well Spiday..you must think that the imo sociopath and war criminal Blair should be made a saint ???

 

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Wrong again. More comedy gold. I was the first person to speak up at my constituency meeting to point out that the WMD dossier was fake.

 

I wish Thai Visa's Marx Brothers (yourself, Loiner and Laughablegravy) would stop trying to guess who and what I am, my sides are aching.

[malagateddy]

Whatever turns you on

Wrong again. More comedy gold. I was the first person to speak up at my constituency meeting to point out that the WMD dossier was fake.
 
I wish Thai Visa's Marx Brothers (yourself, Loiner and Laughablegravy) would stop trying to guess who and what I am, my sides are aching.

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[Spidey]

Just now, malagateddy said:

Whatever turns you on

 

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The only thing that turns me on these days are small and perfectly formed Thai ladies. YMMV.

[wilcopops]

Judging by their comments here and elsewhere in the media, Brexiteers are TERRIFIED by the size of the demo in particular the number 1,000,000. They clutch at anything that says the number isn't that....even 999,999 would be good enough to "prove their point" whatever that is.

The fact is there have been enough demos in London over the years for people to know a big one when they see one.... this one was by any standards up there with the biggest.

Just bite the bullet and accept that when demos get that big they indicate a massive groundswell of opinion across the nation.

 

 

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/staggering-aerial-footage-shows-scale-of-london-brexit-march-as-one-million-take-to-the-streets-a4099271.html?fbclid=IwAR1TMfOV_5efjaXxzcqyQ-BP5x78PpPy92d9xQjXGig51weUz2RJCzozws8

 

 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2019 by wilcopops

[wilcopops]

9 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Whatever turns you on

 

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We aren't guessing., we follow the evidence

[vogie]

5 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

Judging by their comments here and elsewhere in the media, Brexiteers are TERRIFIED by the size of the demo in particular the number 1,000,000. They clutch at anything that says the number isn't that....even 999,999 would be good enough to "prove their point" whatever that is.

The fact is there have been enough demos in London over the years for people to know a big one when they see one.... this one was by any standards up there with the biggest.

Just bite the bullet and accept that when demos get that big they indicate a massive groundswell of opinion across the nation.

 

I wouldn't get too excited about the 'numbers' on the march, true estimates are about 350,000, but when you consider that the turnout againgst the war in Iraq was well over 1 million and nobody took a blind bit of notice of that demonstration, it does seem a bit pointless to most rational thinking people that it will make any difference.

But if it keeps your hopes alive, keep believing.

[Pilotman]

1 hour ago, stephenterry said:

https://economia.icaew.com/news/september-2017/eu-accounts-signed-off-with-clean-opinion

Thank you but I notice that it's for the first time since 1994, hardly a ringing endorsement of management competence is it?  if it was a commercial organisation, or indeed a Sovereign government, heads would have rolled, lots of them, but naturally, not in the unaccountable EU.  

[malagateddy]

In your dreams..a demo is but a demo

Judging by their comments here and elsewhere in the media, Brexiteers are TERRIFIED by the size of the demo in particular the number 1,000,000. They clutch at anything that says the number isn't that....even 999,999 would be good enough to "prove their point" whatever that is.
The fact is there have been enough demos in London over the years for people to know a big one when they see one.... this one was by any standards up there with the biggest.
Just bite the bullet and accept that when demos get that big they indicate a massive groundswell of opinion across the nation.
 
 
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/staggering-aerial-footage-shows-scale-of-london-brexit-march-as-one-million-take-to-the-streets-a4099271.html?fbclid=IwAR1TMfOV_5efjaXxzcqyQ-BP5x78PpPy92d9xQjXGig51weUz2RJCzozws8
 
 
 
 

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[Pilotman]

2 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

In your dreams..a demo is but a demo

 

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I say again, it was not 17.4 million people. As far as this Brexit supporter is concerned , it was  a nice day out for a few bad losers. 

[wilcopops]

15 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't get too excited about the 'numbers' on the march, true estimates are about 350,000, but when you consider that the turnout againgst the war in Iraq was well over 1 million and nobody took a blind bit of notice of that demonstration, it does seem a bit pointless to most rational thinking people that it will make any difference.

But if it keeps your hopes alive, keep believing.

couldn't wish for a  finer example of the misunderstanding I was referring to; both demos in the same place both photo'd and both similar size - in fact the anti-Brexit  is probably bigger - but hey, what did I say and you've given the perfect example.

Edited March 26, 2019 by wilcopops

[Spidey]

2 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

In your dreams..a demo is but a demo

 

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A demo is but a demo.

 

A march is but a march.

 

A poll is but a poll.

 

A petition is but a petition.

 

A referendum is but a referendum.

 

A Brexiteer is but a Brexiteer.

 

What was your point again?

[Nigel Garvie]

6 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't get too excited about the 'numbers' on the march, true estimates are about 350,000, but when you consider that the turnout againgst the war in Iraq was well over 1 million and nobody took a blind bit of notice of that demonstration, it does seem a bit pointless to most rational thinking people that it will make any difference.

But if it keeps your hopes alive, keep believing.

Wow a TV poster gifted with the special powers that allow him to "know" what a TRUE estimate is  (Presumably one he likes the number of). Footage of the march appears to show that it was larger than the previous one which most people accepted as being around 700k. The Police said that it was 2 million, but then they hate May's guts, with very good reason. Will it make any difference, it's a fair question, not a lot I guess. It does show a lot of good spirited happy people who can manage a march without violence or aggression, that can't do any harm when compared with the typical image of your average UKIP supporter. It also is bound to add some more pressure on May, as does the petition. Every little bit helps.

[malagateddy]

Demo every day..you will just waste your time

A demo is but a demo.
 
A march is but a march.
 
A poll is but a poll.
 
A petition is but a petition.
 
A referendum is but a referendum.
 
A Brexiteer is but a Brexiteer.
 
What was your point again?

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[vogie]

1 minute ago, wilcopops said:

There is a fine example of the misunderstanding I was referring to, both demos in the same place both photo'd and both similar size - in fact the anti-Brexit  is probably bigger - but hey, what did I say and you've given the perfect example.

If you stuck to facts instead of trying to confuse yourself I'm sure things would become more apparent to you.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Demo every day..you will just waste your time

 

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Far too busy to "demo" mate. Full time "small but perfectly formed Thai lady" pleasurer. 

 

It's a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

[malagateddy]

Yip and I can remember my 1st pint of beer

Far too busy to "demo" mate. Full time "small but perfectly formed Thai lady" pleasurer. 
 
It's a tough job but somebody's got to do it.

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[stephenterry]

12 minutes ago, vogie said:

I wouldn't get too excited about the 'numbers' on the march, true estimates are about 350,000, but when you consider that the turnout againgst the war in Iraq was well over 1 million and nobody took a blind bit of notice of that demonstration, it does seem a bit pointless to most rational thinking people that it will make any difference.

But if it keeps your hopes alive, keep believing.

A thousand times more than Farage's counter march, that which was a no-hoper from day 1 when Farage bowed out. I expect that a good number of MPs would be influenced by such respective numbers, plus the 5million vote campaign to revoke Article 50 - or at least postpone it until after a referendum on May's deal.

 

As to the Iraq war turnout, Blair 'believed' Bush's statement that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction - something that Brexit will ultimately cause, when the UK's economy implodes. 

[Spidey]

Just now, malagateddy said:

Yip and I can remember my 1st pint of beer

 

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Is that first pint today? From your ramblings, it sounds like the first of many. Well done for remembering it.

[vogie]

2 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Wow a TV poster gifted with the special powers that allow him to "know" what a TRUE estimate is  (Presumably one he likes the number of). Footage of the march appears to show that it was larger than the previous one which most people accepted as being around 700k. The Police said that it was 2 million, but then they hate May's guts, with very good reason. Will it make any difference, it's a fair question, not a lot I guess. It does show a lot of good spirited happy people who can manage a march without violence or aggression, that can't do any harm when compared with the typical image of your average UKIP supporter. It also is bound to add some more pressure on May, as does the petition. Every little bit helps.

Mob rule cannot be allowed to win the day and it doesn't matter how many people were on the March, it will not make a ha'pence of difference. Experts in crowd modelling guestimate 312,000 to 400,000, which is a good amount, but still pointless.

 

[Spidey]

Just now, vogie said:

Mob rule cannot be allowed to win the day and it doesn't matter how many people were on the March, it will not make a ha'pence of difference. Experts in crowd modelling guestimate 312,000 to 400,000, which is a good amount, but still pointless.

 

It's not mob rule, it's "the will of the people".

 

Oops, sorry. I forgot that that was the Brexiteers mantra.

[malagateddy]

I do not drink much.
A bad trap to fall into over here in Thailand.
Especially British remoaners[emoji23]

Is that first pint today? From your ramblings, it sounds like the first of many. Well done for remembering it.

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