balo Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Before: After: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bendejo Posted April 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2019 Bad form, Juli: should have walked out with his head held high, kept his dignity. Instead he comes off like a homeless loco that lives in the street screaming about the space aliens pursuing him. Or the leader of a religious cult, err, oops! (side note: he was raised in a weird cult where everyone bleached their hair white, and he kept that up as an adult, so I suspect he bleaches the beard too) Once the US has him there could be more charges. On the other hand he may have bartered some sort of deal with the current powers that be in 2016 and they will pay off and give him a walk. But DT is infamous for not paying his debts and in dealing with the likes Roger Stone he may have the misfortune of dying of pneumonia while in prison. A hero to zero story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleopatra2 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Basil B said: The charge relates to conspiracy, as long as the Americans can provide evidence that he had communications with Chelsea Manning before or during the time CM stole US classified documents I am sure that will good enough to extradite him to the US. I am speculating that it concerns Mannings request for help in cracking passwords, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said: I am speculating that it concerns Mannings request for help in cracking passwords, Quote It is alleged Ms Manning and Assange had "real-time discussions" on how to share the classified records, with Assange "actively encouraging" Ms Manning to provide more. During an exchange, Ms Manning allegedly told Assange that "after this upload, that's all I really have got left", to which Assange replied "curious eyes never run dry in my experience". https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/771416/breaking-julian-aassange-arrested-Ecuadorian-embassy-met-police-london sound pretty damning to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbtstorm Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 if Assange can show his data origins, it could open a can of dnc,fbi,doj, sethrich, crowdstrike, platte river networks, can of worms. I suspect no russian origins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) 53 minutes ago, bendejo said: he may have the misfortune of dying of pneumonia while in prison. He will be entitled to visits from his native Australian consular services to check on his welfare. Edited April 11, 2019 by Basil B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tug Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, losworld said: Russsian masters where is the proof for this? CNN lol Several agency’s cia fbi nsa ect ect call wiki leaks a russan disinformation organization I trust them way more than Donald and his crew 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Assange is heading to a world of hurt, but he can help himself. He might offer some cooperation: Information on meetings with Manafort. Information on coordination with Stone. The truth of why Farage visited him. There’s more folk than just Assange worried about their future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Trump felt the need to comment on this news, as usual it’s not that he lied when doing so, rather why did he lie; Trump’s comment as follows: “I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It’s not my thing, and I know there is something having to do with Julian Assange. I’ve been seeing what’s happened with Assange.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mountain Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 8 hours ago, Carib said: Since when has the UK become the number one US lapdog? Pamela knows it. https://www.rt.com/news/456243-pamela-anderson-assange-arrest-betrayal/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=RSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Upon hearing this news from the perspective of being pro press freedom, anti-Putin, and anti-"trump" I wasn't sure how I felt about it. It's complicated. This explains it pretty well. Quote Don’t celebrate the indictment of Julian Assange https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/04/11/dont-celebrate-indictment-julian-assange/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post heybruce Posted April 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: Trump felt the need to comment on this news, as usual it’s not that he lied when doing so, rather why did he lie; Trump’s comment as follows: “I know nothing about WikiLeaks. It’s not my thing, and I know there is something having to do with Julian Assange. I’ve been seeing what’s happened with Assange.” There are recordings of him saying "I love Wikileaks" and "I love reading Wikileaks" during the campaign, but to be fair, you can't expect a man-child with ADD to remember that long ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUtT0b0EnSw https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-11/trump-distances-himself-from-wikileaks-and-founder-assange https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-wikileaks-campaign-speeches-julian-assange-2017-11 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Skipped bail. It’s a crime. +1. Just like immigration crimes in the west. Break an immigration law, deport, done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Oliver Holzerfilled said: +1. Just like immigration crimes in the west. Break an immigration law, deport, done. You think people who commit rape in one country and flee to another should be deported to some third country instead of extradited to face trial for rape? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, heybruce said: You think people who commit rape in one country and flee to another should be deported to some third country instead of extradited to face trial for rape? He was accused of rape and the extradition was so he could be questioned by a prosecutor to determine if he should be prosecuted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post canuckamuck Posted April 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2019 (edited) Those who shine a light on the dark dealings of governments and their war machines should be heroes to the people, who are used as pawns for the power and profit of a class that holds common people in contempt. I can't understand why any average joe would have anything bad to say about Assange. Edited April 11, 2019 by canuckamuck 9 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 7 hours ago, bendejo said: Bad form, Juli: should have walked out with his head held high, kept his dignity. Instead he comes off like a homeless loco that lives in the street screaming about the space aliens pursuing him. Or the leader of a religious cult, err, oops! (side note: he was raised in a weird cult where everyone bleached their hair white, and he kept that up as an adult, so I suspect he bleaches the beard too) Once the US has him there could be more charges. On the other hand he may have bartered some sort of deal with the current powers that be in 2016 and they will pay off and give him a walk. But DT is infamous for not paying his debts and in dealing with the likes Roger Stone he may have the misfortune of dying of pneumonia while in prison. A hero to zero story. Also Julien is not exactly trustworthy. He had a deal with Obama: pardon Manning and I will give myself in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Freedom of speech? Democracy? Where are the champion NGO's crying for the sake of humans? Amnesty, HRW. Never mind, all these are for the undeveloped nations, right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Holzerfilled Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Tug said: Several agency’s cia fbi nsa ect ect call wiki leaks a russan disinformation organization I trust them way more than Donald and his crew I would expect nothing less on a diet of big state intelligence "leaks" washed down with copious amounts of MSNBC and CNN "analysis." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Assange is heading to a world of hurt, but he can help himself. He might offer some cooperation: Information on meetings with Manafort. Information on coordination with Stone. The truth of why Farage visited him. There’s more folk than just Assange worried about their future. wow, some serious far fetched assumptions going on in this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post car720 Posted April 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2019 10 hours ago, Carib said: Since when has the UK become the number one US lapdog? No. That title belongs to Australia. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canthai55 Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Dark and sad days when freedom of the press is curtailed. Posters above commenting on 'breaking' the law would do well to remember this quote by someone who knows: The police are not here to create disorder, they're here to preserve disorder. Richard J. Daley And: Policemen so cherish their status as keepers of the peace and protectors of the public that they have occasionally been known to beat to death those citizens or groups who question that status. David Mamet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmrfudd Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 39 minutes ago, stevenl said: Also Julien is not exactly trustworthy. He had a deal with Obama: pardon Manning and I will give myself in. evidence please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dick dasterdly Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 So it is now clear that Assange and his supporters were correct in saying that the US wanted him extradited to the US. Something that was frequently denied by anti-Assange posters on previous threads. As Assange himself said - told you so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, heybruce said: You think people who commit rape in one country and flee to another should be deported to some third country instead of extradited to face trial for rape? 1 hour ago, ThaiBunny said: He was accused of rape and the extradition was so he could be questioned by a prosecutor to determine if he should be prosecuted Ok, you think people who have an extradition request issued because they have been accused of rape should be deported to some third country instead of extradited to face questioning for rape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 1 hour ago, canuckamuck said: Those who shine a light on the dark dealings of governments and their war machines should be heroes to the people, who are used as pawns for the power and profit of a class that holds common people in contempt. I can't understand why any average joe would have anything bad to say about Assange. Perhaps if he had been willing to shine his light on countries other than the US? Did he ever seek to expose dark dealings in Russia, China, or his native Australia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, elmrfudd said: evidence please https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/01/assange-weasels-out-of-pledge-to-surrender-if-manning-received-clemency/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lucius verus Posted April 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2019 Very sad day all round. Freedom of the press is almost extinct and the Thai army will be watching this fiasco in democratic London with interest. Australian gov are cowards for not getting him out of the UK after renewing his passport. They're more interested in grovelling to muslim refugees in distant airports than helping real Australians. Disgusting. Assange will be extradited to USA courtesy of their British lapdogs. What are the odds he will disappear into the vast prison system in USA and die away. 3 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 (edited) Interesting enough, at least so far, the only crime Assange has been charged with by the Justice Department is offering to help Manning figure out the password to gain entry to the classified material. He has not been indicted for actually helping to do so. So did Assange actually give Manning help? "The indictment is cagey on this point. “Cracking the password would have allowed Manning to log onto” unauthorized computers, the indictment says. “Such a measure would have made it more difficult for investigators to identify Manning as the source,” it continues. https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/11/julian-assange-arrested-media-journalism-analysis-226650 Edited April 12, 2019 by metisdead Oversize font reset to normal, again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post attrayant Posted April 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2019 38 minutes ago, Lucius verus said: Very sad day all round. Freedom of the press is almost extinct Assange is not a journalist and hacking into classified servers and dumping the data all over the internet is not journalism. 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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