UK parliament very likely to consider new Brexit referendum - Hammond

[geoffbezoz]

1 minute ago, daveAustin said:

Obvious only to your typical, prissy, toys-out-of-pram-when-I-don't-get-my-way loony lefty bent on making Britain a non-country. A referendum should only be used on the terms of a deal/no deal scenario. Just accept it and move on already. Mess with the decision, you'll stir a hornets nest and the country will forever be divided. Surely even the dippiest, most selfish of unpatriotic 'Brits' can see that?

I think your comment adequately and clearly illustrates as to why most of Europe consider that UK Brexiteers can not quite grasp reality.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Benroon said:

So at long last the Brexit madness is nearly over - it was mildly amusing/intriguing/delusional in equal measures at times but now we can all return to our day jobs 

 

Hoorah !

The BBC are working on another series already. The viewers phone in on the last show with their desired ending.

[SheungWan]

15 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Obvious only to your typical, prissy, toys-out-of-pram-when-I-don't-get-my-way loony lefty bent on making Britain a non-country. A referendum should only be used on the terms of a deal/no deal scenario. Just accept it and move on already. Mess with the decision, you'll stir a hornets nest and the country will forever be divided. Surely even the dippiest, most selfish of unpatriotic 'Brits' can see that?

Brexiteer Hornets Nest goes Bzzzzzzzz.

[vogie]

9 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Brexiteer Hornets Nest goes Bzzzzzzzz.

And Noddys bell goes ting-a-ling, bless.

Edited April 14, 2019 by vogie

[nauseus]

5 hours ago, luckyluke said:

I don't know. 

However it is certainly 

 the time to implement it. 

If Leavers had win with a supermajority, no problems as now had arise. 

As the results would have been evident. 

This is about the future of a nation. 

But too late now.

The U.K. will have to deal with it. 

But a lesson learned for all the countries which eventually are intend to leave the E.U. in a short or long future. 

 

 

 

 

Well not the answer but I agree that this is about the future of a nation.

[SheungWan]

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Well not the answer but I agree that this is about the future of a nation.

Nobody ever accused the Brexiteers of being pompous. ????

[nauseus]

41 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

I think your comment adequately and clearly illustrates as to why most of Europe consider that UK Brexiteers can not quite grasp reality.

The comment has reality flowing out over its gilded gunalls.

[nauseus]

2 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Nobody ever accused the Brexiteers of being pompous. ????

Probably because that would truly be too much for Mr. Potkettle.

[SheungWan]

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

I was trying to look on the bright side!

Old Brexiteers increasingly falling of their perch as another referendum is delayed.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Another wet dream. Never would you be able to find someone stupid enough to take responsibility for a no-deal Brexit (let alone enough MPs to get it thorough parliament).

 

All those Brexiteers shouting “no deal” are comfortably standing on the sidelines. The smarter ones, JRM and his bully boys, understand it and therefore will keep standing on the sidelines. Then there are the fools and tools like Raab and Davis who actually might be stupid enough to signing up for the PM job just to end up in the very same situation May is in. Ultimately they would not take responsibility for a no-deal Brexit either. 

 

Regardless of the leadership, there is only this deal or no deal, and before being responsible for the consequences of a no-deal crash, every politician would rather accept an extension, a referendum, a GE, or a deal with the opposition.  

It's like "Highlander" - there can be only one...............DEAL

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

Have anything to comment on the content?

Was it starring Snow White? Or Snow Flake?

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Switzerland ain't the UK...The UK fights for freedom...

They were also smart enough to reject membership of the EU.

[billd766]

3 hours ago, Disaantri said:

That's probably because there was no Brexit leader who came forward with a plausible plan which would have been acceptable to their parliamentary colleagues!

And so Mrs May and her merry staff have taken nearly 3 years to come up with many plans, NONE of which have been acceptable to their parliamentary colleagues, nor acceptable to the EU.

 

She probably has more air miles than Richard Branson, worn out more VIP limos than Mercedes Benz make in a week and got on hers knees and begged for more than Oliver Twist.

 

The one thing she has not managed to do, was to deliver Brexit to the people of the UK despite all her broken promises over 3 years.

[nauseus]

10 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Old Brexiteers increasingly falling of their perch as another referendum is delayed.

We were talking about dogs but be my guest.........latch on to everything you can.

[nauseus]

3 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And so Mrs May and her merry staff have taken nearly 3 years to come up with many plans, NONE of which have been acceptable to their parliamentary colleagues, nor acceptable to the EU.

 

She probably has more air miles than Richard Branson, worn out more VIP limos than Mercedes Benz make in a week and got on hers knees and begged for more than Oliver Twist.

 

The one thing she has not managed to do, was to deliver Brexit to the people of the UK despite all her broken promises over 3 years.

She actually hasn't travelled much Bill. What does that tell us?

[billd766]

44 minutes ago, vogie said:

And Noddys bell goes ting-a-ling, bless.

And Brexit keeps going round and round, all day long.

[wilcopops]

1 hour ago, daveAustin said:

Obvious only to your typical, prissy, toys-out-of-pram-when-I-don't-get-my-way loony lefty bent on making Britain a non-country. A referendum should only be used on the terms of a deal/no deal scenario. Just accept it and move on already. Mess with the decision, you'll stir a hornets nest and the country will forever be divided. Surely even the dippiest, most selfish of unpatriotic 'Brits' can see that?

Well you seem by your own definition to be amongst the "dippiest" - the country is ALREADY divided and either way will remain so.

However Brexit once Scotland has left and Northern Ireland rejoined Eire, I think you'll find renders Britain as a "non-county" more effectively than anything the EU can do.

 

bTW the way you are aware of how dated the concept of nationalism a sovereignty are? I guess you think the 1950s were some golden age.

[nontabury]

1 hour ago, geoffbezoz said:

I think your comment adequately and clearly illustrates as to why most of Europe consider that UK Brexiteers can not quite grasp reality.

 

 

It case you have’t noticed, there is now an ever increasing number of Europeans who wish to say goodby to the E.u.

In the last couple of weeks we have seen a Eurosceptic party win in the Dutch provincial elections, and it’s now predicted that the leading Eurosceptic party in Finland is expecting to make large gains.

And this in Two E.u countries that are reputedly amongst the most ardent E.u supporters.

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by nontabury

[billd766]

10 minutes ago, nauseus said:

She actually hasn't travelled much Bill. What does that tell us?

I am unable to respond to that comment for fear of a life ban at TVF.

 

As an ex serviceman, I try to moderate my language for fear of upsetting the children (read remainers if you wish).

 

My legal counsel ('er indoors) advises me to keep shtum.

 

Edited April 14, 2019 by billd766
Edited for bad spelling after I had posted it

[GinBoy2]

I watch sadly from afar as a true Anglophile in dismay at all of this.

 

Now in America, we have referendums on almost everything, including condoms for porn stars!

 

But generally anything really important requires a supermajority of 66% to get passed.

 

What were your corn fed politicians thinking when they started this road to chaos?

 

Problem is we seem to have entered an era of inept politicians. Nobody who actually is capable would think about going into Government.

The era of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, seems to be over. Now all we get are narcissistic wannabe's, with little or no talent 

Edited April 14, 2019 by GinBoy2

[bristolboy]

14 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They were also smart enough to reject membership of the EU.

And smart enough to sign agreements to come to agreements that most Brexiters posting here would say constitute slavery. Be smart and follow Switzerland's lead.,

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Switzerland ain't the UK...The UK fights for freedom...

 

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

They were also smart enough to reject membership of the EU.

A bit upmarket for most Brexiteers. Nice for an afternoon coffee on Bahnhofstrasse.

[transam]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

And smart enough to sign agreements to come to agreements that most Brexiters posting here would say constitute slavery. Be smart and follow Switzerland's lead.,

What, look after naughty folks stuff.....????

[nontabury]

19 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And so Mrs May and her merry staff have taken nearly 3 years to come up with many plans, NONE of which have been acceptable to their parliamentary colleagues, nor acceptable to the EU.

 

She probably has more air miles than Richard Branson, worn out more VIP limos than Mercedes Benz make in a week and got on hers knees and begged for more than Oliver Twist.

 

The one thing she has not managed to do, was to deliver Brexit to the people of the UK despite all her broken promises over 3 years.

 

 

But it she has won an award,for services to the E.u

 

 

[Spidey]

On 4/13/2019 at 4:57 AM, Jip99 said:

 

 

Indeed................... but you would not change the theme park just because the kids were squabbling.

 

Calm the kids down then enjoy the same roller coaster that you already booked.

Not my idea of good parenting. Kids squabbling? Remove them from the theme park and go straight home. It's the only way they'll learn.

 

Revoke article 50 and re-instigate it when MPs are mature enough to negotiate a sensible agreement.

[Spidey]

On 4/13/2019 at 6:16 AM, billd766 said:

So what happens if neither Leave or Remain get the super majority?

 

1   Does the UK then revert to the original referendum result?

2   Go back to TMs plan that has already been rejected?

3   Automatically leave on a no deal?

4 or more ?????

The referendum would be on the grounds of revoke article 50 or accept May's deal or another which might be negotiated with the Labour Party. Result is guaranteed.

[nauseus]

26 minutes ago, wilcopops said:

Well you seem by your own definition to be amongst the "dippiest" - the country is ALREADY divided and either way will remain so.

However Brexit once Scotland has left and Northern Ireland rejoined Eire, I think you'll find renders Britain as a "non-county" more effectively than anything the EU can do.

 

bTW the way you are aware of how dated the concept of nationalism a sovereignty are? I guess you think the 1950s were some golden age.

A fairly dippy comment there in itself. There are still about 200 sovereign nations, far more than in 1950. 

[nauseus]

Just now, Spidey said:

The referendum would be on the grounds of revoke article 50 or accept May's deal or another which might be negotiated with the Labour Party. Result is guaranteed.

Result is guaranteed! Remain brilliance shining through.

[Spidey]

On 4/13/2019 at 7:48 AM, Kiwiken said:

And if Britain was to have another referendum and the vote was 50/50 what then?

Only a 33 million to 1 chance of that.

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, Pattaya46 said:

How do you want to exit the EU ?

1. - with a deal
2. - without a deal  (no deal)

After 3 year of TM trying to get UK to stay in the EU mafia no deal will be good, if UK gets out with a deal the UK and the new down the line Prime Minister can do a Trump and tear it up.