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[rooster59]

Pelosi hits Trump over use of 9/11 images to criticize Muslim lawmaker

By Jan Wolfe

 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) addresses the North America's Building Trades Unions (NABTU) 2019 legislative conference in Washington, U.S., April 9, 2019. REUTERS/Jeenah Moon

 

(Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized President Donald Trump on Saturday for a Twitter post that used 9/11 imagery while suggesting Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, a Muslim, was dismissive of the New York attacks.

 

"The memory of 9/11 is sacred ground, and any discussion of it must be done with reverence," Pelosi said in a statement posted on Twitter. "The President shouldn't use the painful images of 9/11 for a political attack."

 

On Friday, Trump tweeted a video suggesting that Omar, a U.S. representative from Minnesota, was dismissive of the Sept. 11 attacks.

 

The video spliced news footage of 9/11 with a clip from a speech Omar gave last month in which she described the terror attack as "some people did something."

 

The Trump tweet included the words "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!"

 

In Omar's speech, given to a Muslim civil rights and advocacy group, she said Muslims had "lived with the discomfort of being a second-class citizen and, frankly, I'm tired of it, and every single Muslim in this country should be tired of it."

 

Omar said the advocacy group recognized that "some people did something and that all of us were starting to lose access to our civil liberties."

 

Lawmakers from Trump's Republican party have accused Omar of minimizing the 9/11 attacks, while critics of the president say he took Omar's words out of context in order to stoke anti-Muslim sentiment.

 

"No one person – no matter how corrupt, inept, or vicious – can threaten my unwavering love for America," Omar wrote in a tweet on Saturday. "I stand undeterred to continue fighting for equal opportunity in our pursuit of happiness for all Americans."

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-04-14

 

 

[Jingthing]

The demagogue currently occupying the white house has no moral authority regarding anything about 911. That very man used that national tragedy to brag that his building was now the tallest. Like it was a win for him. To add insult to injury his claim was yet another lie.
How low can he go? Always lower.

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[Tug]

Not at all surprised Donald inciting violence that being said you would think Omar would have better sense on such a raw wound but then again you would think a us president wouldn’t be peddling nuke tec to the people who attacked the World Trade Center go figure

[PatOngo]

29 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Pelosi hits Trump over use of 9/11 images to criticize Muslim lawmaker

Nancy, may I suggest a baseball bat!

[simple1]

54 minutes ago, Tug said:

Not at all surprised Donald inciting violence that being said you would think Omar would have better sense on such a raw wound but then again you would think a us president wouldn’t be peddling nuke tec to the people who attacked the World Trade Center go figure

Actually her words were similar to the tone used by G.W. Bush at the 9/11 site. However, Omar did make a factual mistake in the same speech i.e. CAIR was established way before 9/11, not after. A President acting in the manner as trump is truly vile, he is unfit to hold Office.

[Kasane]

The Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, words "some people did something" were clearly an intent to whitewash the Muslims terrorists act of terrorism. If, as an elected member of congress you cannot speak the words Muslim terrorists" for this act of terrorism, just because you belong to the same religion, then you are unfit to hold that office.

Trump is eying 2020. He is inciting his base of muslim haters, women haters, and minority haters. Without a moral compass to guide him expect doubling down of this rhetoric in the coming months. 

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, Kasane said:

The Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, words "some people did something" were clearly an intent to whitewash the Muslims terrorists act of terrorism. If, as an elected member of congress you cannot speak the words Muslim terrorists" for this act of terrorism, just because you belong to the same religion, then you are unfit to hold that office.

Trump is eying 2020. He is inciting his base of muslim haters, women haters, and minority haters. Without a moral compass to guide him expect doubling down of this rhetoric in the coming months. 

Interesting double standard that.

Have you heard 45 utter the phrase "white nationalist terrorism" even one time to describe obvious white nationalist terrorist incidents? 

Edited April 14, 2019 by Jingthing

[Kasane]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Interesting double standard that.

Have you heard 45 utter the phrase "white nationalist terrorism" even one time to describe obvious white nationalist terrorist incidents? 

Two wrongs don't make a right.

And for equivalance, the term is "Christian terrorist".

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, Kasane said:

Two wrongs don't make a right.

And for equivalance, the term is "Christian terrorist".

I don't agree. White nationalist terrorists are not necessarily motivated by their view of Christian dogma. Sometimes that is in the mix, but not by definition. 

[Emdog]

Perhaps should show twin towers with caption "Thank you Saudi Arabia for sending your best and brightest to USA to learn how to fly" (but not to land... vast majority were Saudis).  Those Saudi sponsored Wahabi schools make Christian far right schools looks like bastions of the enlightenment.

[simple1]

33 minutes ago, Kasane said:

The Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, words "some people did something" were clearly an intent to whitewash the Muslims terrorists act of terrorism. If, as an elected member of congress you cannot speak the words Muslim terrorists" for this act of terrorism, just because you belong to the same religion, then you are unfit to hold that office.

Trump is eying 2020. He is inciting his base of muslim haters, women haters, and minority haters. Without a moral compass to guide him expect doubling down of this rhetoric in the coming months. 

It's all about using snippets of a speech out of context...

 

Republicans falsely claim Ilhan Omar denied 9/11 attackers were terrorists...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/10/ilhan-omar-republicans-9-11-claims

[stevenl]

46 minutes ago, Kasane said:

The Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, words "some people did something" were clearly an intent to whitewash the Muslims terrorists act of terrorism. If, as an elected member of congress you cannot speak the words Muslim terrorists" for this act of terrorism, just because you belong to the same religion, then you are unfit to hold that office.

Trump is eying 2020. He is inciting his base of muslim haters, women haters, and minority haters. Without a moral compass to guide him expect doubling down of this rhetoric in the coming months. 

" The Muslim congresswoman, Ilhan Omar, words "some people did something" were clearly an intent to whitewash the Muslims terrorists act of terrorism. "

Her words were admitting that some muslims committed an atrocity. Her words were also indicating that the muslim community in general should not be looked at with disregard because of that.

[blazes]

11 minutes ago, simple1 said:

It's all about using snippets of a speech out of context...

 

Republicans falsely claim Ilhan Omar denied 9/11 attackers were terrorists...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/10/ilhan-omar-republicans-9-11-claims

 

Yes, you're right: she does not deny 9/11 attackers were terrorists.  She merely asserts that "something" happened on 9/11.  Someone who reduces that massive tragedy to merely "something" should not be holding public office in the United States.  This downplaying of 3000 deaths is open treachery.  

And more fool those Americans who fail to condemn her outrageous behaviour.

[blazes]

When will somebody lead this Pelosi piffle-producer to one side and tell her that it's time to call it quits?

Watch closely the tv snippets of her attempts at public speaking and you will see a human being devoid of  substance, self-awareness and intelligence.... 

Edited April 14, 2019 by blazes

[Srikcir]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The Trump tweet included the words "WE WILL NEVER FORGET!"

I think actually Trump was referring to his observation back when the Twin Towers fell that Trump's 71-story building “40 Wall Street" blocks away from the collapsed twin tower once again became the tallest building in downtown Manhattan!  https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-hillary-clinton-september-11-911-attacks-nyc-214236

For Trump it was all about real estate - not people.

[Baerboxer]

25 minutes ago, Emdog said:

Perhaps should show twin towers with caption "Thank you Saudi Arabia for sending your best and brightest to USA to learn how to fly" (but not to land... vast majority were Saudis).  Those Saudi sponsored Wahabi schools make Christian far right schools looks like bastions of the enlightenment.

 

Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia? Do you know any Saudi Arabians?

 

I've got many wonderful Irish friends, and none are terrorists, or terrorist supporters. I've got many American friends who are some of the most innovative and hard working flexible people I know; and not one has committed a gun crime, is racist, xenophobic or a supremacist of any kind. I have many Arabic friends from several Middle Eastern counties who are Muslim. Not one supports violence, terrorism, religious fanaticism or intolerance.

 

Taring a whole country and nationality with the actions of a tiny tiny %. 

[Jingthing]

I think this the congresswoman's speech is being blown way out of proportion. She was speaking to a Muslim crowd. Yes, she should know by now that everything she says will be potentially used by the 45 fans. But she acknowledged implicitly that the 911 terrorists were indeed Muslim and she also acknowledged implicitly that what they did was very bad. Yes, given that people are watching her now she should have used the word terrorists, but, again the fact that she didn't is being cynically overblown. 

 

This reminds me somewhat of something Jews say when one of our own does something shameful and damaging to the public perception of all Jews, such as Bernie Madoff. That phrase is bad for the Jews. It's implied that Madoff was a horrible criminal because the phrase is meant for a Jewish audience. OK, probably not the best example because Madoff's victims were other Jews, but I'm taking about the public perception part of it to the rest of the population. 

 

There is no doubt in the context of this topic that the actions of Islamic terrorists are bad for the Muslims that are not associated with Islamic terrorism, of course the vast majority of them, especially among American Muslims. That's kind of what she was saying. Some Muslims did 911 and the reputation of all American Muslims was UNFAIRLY damaged. That's the truth and I see nothing wrong with voicing that. Nothing at all. 

Edited April 14, 2019 by Jingthing

[blazes]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I think this the congresswoman's speech is being blown way out of proportion. She was speaking to a Muslim crowd. Yes, she should know by now that everything she says will be potentially used by the 45 fans. But she acknowledged implicitly that the 911 terrorists were indeed Muslim and she also acknowledged implicitly that what they did was very bad. Yes, given that people are watching her now she should have used the word terrorists, but, again the fact that she didn't is being cynically overblown. 

 

This reminds me somewhat of something Jews say when one of our own does something shameful and damaging to the public perception of all Jews, such as Bernie Madoff. That phrase is bad for the Jews. It's implied that Madoff was a horrible criminal because the phrase is meant for a Jewish audience. OK, probably not the best example because Madoff's victims were other Jews, but I'm taking about the public perception part of it to the rest of the population. 

 

"Implicitly" is just not good enough as an excuse for this harridan's implied (!!) agenda of absolving Muslims of all responsibility for the hatred that is everywhere now apparent.... Muslims as victims!!!!!!!  Accept that narrative and you will willingly buy real estate in an excellent swamp I have in Florida.

[roobaa01]

2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Actually her words were similar to the tone used by G.W. Bush at the 9/11 site. However, Omar did make a factual mistake in the same speech i.e. CAIR was established way before 9/11, not after. A President acting in the manner as trump is truly vile, he is unfit to hold Office.

this antisemite muslim democrat ilhan omar must apologise to the usa public for her viral opinion about 9/11. 

 

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roobaa01

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

this antisemite muslim democrat ilhan omar must apologise to the usa public for her viral opinion about 9/11. 

 

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roobaa01

No, she doesn't need to do any such thing. 

I don't have an opinion of whether she's an antisemite or not. That would mean looking into her intensions as her speech though sometimes borderline is not exactly super explicit in that.

I'm not naïve though. Look at any survey of international Muslims and the rates of hating Jews are very, very high, but I truly think less so among American Muslims. 

Let's take care and not overly weaponize accusations antisemitism in a specifically PARTISAN way as seems to have happened to an extreme degree in the UK. In truth, antisemitic expression comes from all political perspectives, right and left. Remember Charlottesville and Pittsburgh. 

Edited April 14, 2019 by Jingthing

[roobaa01]

2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No, she doesn't need to do any such thing. 

I don't have an opinion of whether she's an antisemite or not. That would mean looking into her intensions as he speech though sometimes borderline is not exactly explicit in that.

Let's take care and not over weaponize accusations antisemitism in a specifically PARTISAN way as seems to have happened to an extreme degree in the UK. In truth, antisemitic expression comes from all political perspectives, right and left. 

like two other dems muslim tlaib, omar is dem 2020 fakelatino beto antisemite as the dem party has become an antisemite infested party with these antisemite people and their remarks about the jewish country israel. another dem muslim antisemite is sansour. all these dem antisemite muslims sansour, tlaib, omar relate to farakhan.

 

they owe the us public an apology for 9/11.

 

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roobaa01

[simple1]

14 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

this antisemite muslim democrat ilhan omar must apologise to the usa public for her viral opinion about 9/11. 

 

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roobaa01

I repeat, kindly do not reply to my posts. I am not permitted to post what I really think of you, sufficient to say I feel dirty reading your comments

[roobaa01]

3 minutes ago, simple1 said:

I repeat, kindly do not reply to my posts. I am not permitted to post what I really think of you, sufficient to say I feel dirty reading your comments

are u threatening me ???

 

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roobaa01

[Blue Muton]

2 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

are u threatening me ???

 

wbr

roobaa01

Clearly not, how could you come to that conclusion? Do you have difficulty with comprehension?

[simple1]

1 hour ago, blazes said:

 

Yes, you're right: she does not deny 9/11 attackers were terrorists.  She merely asserts that "something" happened on 9/11.  Someone who reduces that massive tragedy to merely "something" should not be holding public office in the United States.  This downplaying of 3000 deaths is open treachery.  

And more fool those Americans who fail to condemn her outrageous behaviour.

That's your spin, as well as by others. Read the link I provided which does not support the above narrative.

[Jingthing]

like two other dems muslim tlaib, omar is dem 2020 fakelatino beto antisemite as the dem party has become an antisemite infested party with these antisemite people and their remarks about the jewish country israel. another dem muslim antisemite is sansour. all these dem antisemite muslims sansour, tlaib, omar relate to farakhan.
 
they owe the us public an apology for 9/11.
 
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roobaa01

Lies. The democratic is not an antisemitic party or an anti-Israel party. They do tend to be more critical of the right wing elements in Israel but that's not the same thing as being anti Israel.

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[blazes]

6 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

like two other dems muslim tlaib, omar is dem 2020 fakelatino beto antisemite as the dem party has become an antisemite infested party with these antisemite people and their remarks about the jewish country israel. another dem muslim antisemite is sansour. all these dem antisemite muslims sansour, tlaib, omar relate to farakhan.

 

they owe the us public an apology for 9/11.

 

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roobaa01

 

Farakhan yes, but don't forget to include the Rev (ha ha) Al Sharpton, whom the pathetic Dem Potus wannabes were bending in front of this last week to kiss his ring (and behind him to kiss his a$$).

[riclag]

4 hours ago, rooster59 said:

(Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi criticized President Donald Trump on Saturday for a Twitter post that used 9/11 imagery while suggesting Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, a Muslim, was dismissive of the New York attacks.

She's been dismissive about other things too,Isis Sympathizer  ! Jews teach their young to never forget ! Americans have a motto We will Never Forget! Checks and Balances will take away  her popularity,the sooner the better or something. She can disguise the facade any way she wants ,Americans will never tolerate this extremism!

"Omar of Minnesota Once Asked Judge for Leniency Toward Men Accused of Trying to Join ISIS"

https://www.lifezette.com/2019/01/omar-of-minnesota-once-asked-judge-for-leniency-toward-men-accused-of-trying-to-join-isis/

Edited April 14, 2019 by riclag

[stevenl]

20 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

like two other dems muslim tlaib, omar is dem 2020 fakelatino beto antisemite as the dem party has become an antisemite infested party with these antisemite people and their remarks about the jewish country israel. another dem muslim antisemite is sansour. all these dem antisemite muslims sansour, tlaib, omar relate to farakhan.

 

they owe the us public an apology for 9/11.

 

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roobaa01

OK, in English please.

[AgMech Cowboy]

Should have hit with a whole lot more.