9 hours ago, Tagged said:

 

Both is driven by your brain, aiming for dopamin! Religion and love, pure drugs, and make a man silly, and in worst case crazy and dangerous.

 

"Unexpected visions can define the most innovative artists, the most divergent philosophers and anyone who finds a sense of ecstasy in the beauty and strangeness of the world"

 

https://aeon.co/essays/the-dopamine-switch-between-atheist-believer-and-fanatic

 

Excellent article! CMNightRider should read it. ????

If you see god don't forget to ask " Which one are you?" 

Yes !!!.. thou shall believe in god, thou shall have all the religious symbols and thou will get rid of all earthly possessions...please start with your wallet - drop box available at Exit. Next please !

18 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

Lol, and your point is?  Surly you are not suggesting every time a comet hit the earth, some sort of life form came into existence.

Why laugh! because it's a possibility that you will choose to ignore.

"Suffer little children,  come on to me." Well the peedo priests too that suggestion literally!

19 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

If you were to read the Bible, you would already know the answer to this question.  Evidently, you are one of those individuals who believe all living things and the universe came from nothing.  This is why I mentioned common sense in an earlier post.  The natural intelligence that is believed to be available to all rational people.  Unfortunately, not everyone is rational.

God is something, or some say  is everything ,and as you said something cannot come from nothing

So stop deflecting, apply your own standards to  Yahweh, and tells as uneducated, irrational, slobs where he came from. 

 

 

1 hour ago, sirineou said:

God is something, or some say  is everything ,and as you said something cannot come from nothing

So stop deflecting, apply your own standards to  Yahweh, and tells as uneducated, irrational, slobs where he came from. 

 

 

 

Always been.....

 

 

 

Every last point evaporates into infinite regress which has been known so or 'too' long thus something from nothing is promulgated with a 'la a la I can't hear you' as a response.

 

In a way I should be thankful to this ultimate stupidity because it drove me to dump psychology and see the world, though not as some may think. Belief in 'x' in absence of reason is a disorder but/and/which is prevalent in our species. The question is why this particular aspect or facet is given a special status or position. Unless I was willing to grant religion, spirituality, gods, muti, voodoo + a special place, for no reason, I would never get a job in the field. Whispers it was... everybody knows but you can't say it out loud. Thought about it for months and well into my third year before dumping it on the grounds that wonton dishonesty may be required.

 

Read the Bible <deleted>. Already know scripture to the point where I know fellow member CMN is entirely correct as per of it. Excuse me for presuming gender but the man knows his Bible. Is @Jingthing still a member?

5 hours ago, sirineou said:

God is something, or some say  is everything ,and as you said something cannot come from nothing

So stop deflecting, apply your own standards to  Yahweh, and tells as uneducated, irrational, slobs where he came from. 

 

 

The view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere.

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

Here is what the Bible says about who made God:

God is eternal

God is everlasting in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is eternal as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.”

Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).

God is self-existing

The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD — KJV, or Jehovah — see ASV footnote). This was the most sacred name for God.

The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.”

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

 

I think you're winding us up!!

4 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

The view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere.

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

Here is what the Bible says about who made God:

God is eternal

God is everlasting in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is eternal as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.”

Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).

God is self-existing

The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD — KJV, or Jehovah — see ASV footnote). This was the most sacred name for God.

The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.”

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

 

Did he write the book to, or is that written by humans? Simple question

19 minutes ago, Tagged said:

Did he write the book to, or is that written by humans? Simple question

When it comes to authorship of the Bible, of course men were involved.  However, God has repeatedly authenticated the supernatural character of Scripture through prophecy.  In Isaiah 40–46, God states that He is distinguished from the other so-called gods in many ways (He is the Creator;  He is the One who sits above the circle of the earth; etc.). God alone can tell the future (see especially Isaiah 41:21–29).  Since the Bible alone contains detailed predictive and fulfilled prophecy, it alone can qualify as being authenticated by God.

15 minutes ago, CMNightRider said:

When it comes to authorship of the Bible, of course men were involved.  However, God has repeatedly authenticated the supernatural character of Scripture through prophecy.  In Isaiah 40–46, God states that He is distinguished from the other so-called gods in many ways (He is the Creator;  He is the One who sits above the circle of the earth; etc.). God alone can tell the future (see especially Isaiah 41:21–29).  Since the Bible alone contains detailed predictive and fulfilled prophecy, it alone can qualify as being authenticated by God.

Do you really believe this load of old cobblers or are you just winding folks up??

6 minutes ago, xylophone said:

Do you really believe this load of old cobblers or are you just winding folks up??

I'm not interested in winding anyone up.  The poster asked me a question and I answered it.  The Bible is obviously the word of God, so of course I believe in what it says.  I feel sorry for those who don't believe.    

6 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

The view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere.

If he did not come from anywhere , then it would be fair to conclude, as many of as have, that he simply, did not come. 

 

6 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

Just like my something that came from nothing, only difference is that I can see, feel , smell and touch my something, your something I have to take your word for it.

6 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14).

Here is another fictional character that said the same thing.

7 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

The view regarding God that is set forth consistently in the Bible is this: He did not come from anywhere.

No one made the Creator of the universe. He had no beginning, and will have no ending. He is the eternal, self-existing Being.

Here is what the Bible says about who made God:

God is eternal

God is everlasting in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is eternal as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.”

Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).

God is self-existing

The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD — KJV, or Jehovah — see ASV footnote). This was the most sacred name for God.

The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.”

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

 

I Yam what I Yam! That was...

 

8 hours ago, notmyself said:

Every last point evaporates into infinite regress which has been known so or 'too' long thus something from nothing is promulgated with a 'la a la I can't hear you' as a response.

 

In a way I should be thankful to this ultimate stupidity because it drove me to dump psychology and see the world, though not as some may think. Belief in 'x' in absence of reason is a disorder but/and/which is prevalent in our species. The question is why this particular aspect or facet is given a special status or position. Unless I was willing to grant religion, spirituality, gods, muti, voodoo + a special place, for no reason, I would never get a job in the field. Whispers it was... everybody knows but you can't say it out loud. Thought about it for months and well into my third year before dumping it on the grounds that wonton dishonesty may be required.

 

Read the Bible <deleted>. Already know scripture to the point where I know fellow member CMN is entirely correct as per of it. Excuse me for presuming gender but the man knows his Bible. Is @Jingthing still a member?

He knows it, but disregards all the his nonexistent thing's murders, childlike jealousy, genocide, infanticide, rape, pillage, barbarity, stupidity, hypocrisy and such. He's the typical cherry-pickin' apologist. I give him no credit. He's not honest.

2 hours ago, xylophone said:

Do you really believe this load of old cobblers or are you just winding folks up??

He must be winding us up, no sane person could believe this twaddle, but I did say sane.

3 hours ago, Elad said:

I think you're winding us up!!

 

11 minutes ago, giddyup said:

He must be winding us up, no sane person could believe this twaddle.

He believes it! I accused him months ago of "punking" us. He's prob a missionary spreading that BS to gullible Thais. I've seen many on flights over the years. Usually in large groups. Going to Asia to "save" everyone. 

5 minutes ago, giddyup said:

He must be winding us up, no sane person could believe this twaddle, but I did say sane.

No accounting for some folks beliefs.....

 

When very young, children believed in things like the tooth fairy, Father Christmas, bogeymen, and so on until they developed their own minds and thinking powers and reasoned that such things were just pure nonsense.

 

Now of course that there are things like the Internet on which to challenge theories and so on, it really does explain why levels of churchgoing folk have declined rapidly over the past few decades.

Religion of whatever sort was born and flourished out of poverty and ignorance until a few smart ones found that they could control the masses by using these beliefs and also foster wars, massacres, rapes and just about everything that their so-called religions are supposed to abhor.

 

 

2 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

I'm not interested in winding anyone up.  The poster asked me a question and I answered it.  The Bible is obviously the word of God, so of course I believe in what it says.  I feel sorry for those who don't believe.    

You have no reason to be sorry! Hopefully you see what what we see one day! 

 

I will pray for you my friend ????

Regardless is you share CMNR's beliefs  or not (I don't), it's not cool ganging up on him. You should be able to easily discredit his arguments with rational arguments, but instead you resort to an ad hominem attack. 
Very poor form that is

 

12 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Regardless is you share CMNR's beliefs  or not (I don't), it's not cool ganging up on him. You should be able to easily discredit his arguments with rational arguments, but instead you resort to an ad hominem attack. 
Very poor form that is

 

Before you come to his defence you might have a look at some of his less-than-christian responses to anyone who disagrees with him. Here's his response to me...... "I am so sorry for anything negative I have ever said to you.  I had no idea you were a low functioning adult.  Hopefully, you have someone who takes care of you.  I suspect a couple of your like minded friends stay at the same nursing home as you". Obviously overflowing with the milk of human kindness, not.

14 minutes ago, Sunmaster said:

Regardless is you share CMNR's beliefs  or not (I don't), it's not cool ganging up on him. You should be able to easily discredit his arguments with rational arguments, but instead you resort to an ad hominem attack. 
Very poor form that is

 

Lame. He and his all-powerful imaginary sky daddy can handle it. He doesn't need another savior.  

Sure, after being ridiculed at every turn he was supposed to do the christian thing and ask for more, right?

And in any case, what is this? A kindergarten? "It's not my fault, he started it". Pathetic

He doesn't need another saviour, but you need to grow the f up.

1 minute ago, Sunmaster said:

Sure, after being ridiculed at every turn he was supposed to do the christian thing and ask for more, right?

And in any case, what is this? A kindergarten? "It's not my fault, he started it". Pathetic

He doesn't need another saviour, but you need to grow the f up.

Hey, he's not getting crucified, only being disagreed with.

1 minute ago, Sunmaster said:

Sure, after being ridiculed at every turn he was supposed to do the christian thing and ask for more, right?

And in any case, what is this? A kindergarten? "It's not my fault, he started it". Pathetic

He doesn't need another saviour, but you need to grow the f up.

   ????  grown the "f" up e'nuff for ya? 

1 hour ago, Skeptic7 said:

   ????  grown the "f" up e'nuff for ya? 

Didn't expect anything less (more?) from you.

Don't mock the afflicted.

17 hours ago, CMNightRider said:

God is eternal

God is everlasting in nature (Isa. 40:28), which is to say, he is eternal as to his very essence (Rom. 16:26; 1 Tim. 1:17). His existence is “from everlasting to everlasting.”

Before the material creation was spoken into existence, he always was (Psa. 90:2).

God is self-existing

The Lord revealed himself to Moses as the “I AM THAT I AM” (Ex. 3:14). The “I AM” expression is related to the Hebrew name for God, Yahweh (LORD — KJV, or Jehovah — see ASV footnote). This was the most sacred name for God.

The term Yahweh occurs more than 6,800 times in the Old Testament. The word is believed to be a form of the verb hayah, which signifies “to be,” ultimately meaning “the eternal One” or “self-existing One.”

God’s existence is underived; no one made him. He simply always was.

So then: