Why would 50% of men still date a Thai bar girl?

[brokenbone]

30 minutes ago, CharlieH said:

errrmmm excuse me gents, isnt there a difference between making love and having sex ? Having sex is mostly self gratification, making love with someone you love, and loves you, is an entirely different thing....isnt it ? I know which one I would prefer, and you dont get it if you rent.

i'm with you on the unwillingness to have sex with a stranger,

but i still dont see any difference,

or are you referring to whom are giving the honor of steering it in ?

[MikeN]

Why would 50% of men still date a Thai bar girl?

 

Well according to another of these infallible TV surveys, 50% of men would consider screwing a ladyboy ......so the real question is this the other 50% or the same 50% ? If it’s the same respondents then obviously they are not fussy, .... or not narrow minded.

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[chrisinth]

5 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

So you think meeting a girl in a western pub is the same as meeting one in a Thai beer bar? I had absolutely no idea that my English ex wife was in fact a hooker!

You're the only one that has mentioned that my friend, certainly not me. Nobody suggested that your ex wife was a hooker.

 

My reaction was to part of a post from BritManToo which read:

 

"Every girl I ever had sex with I met in a bar, I have no problem telling my kids that".

 

That comment to my knowledge was not regional specific.

Edited May 5, 2019 by chrisinth

[lipflipper]

If you are a Newbie and come to Thailand because of its ease to get laid then most likely you will hit the bars because of the ease of being successful in them. Granted the girls these days are more mercenary than even ten years ago and they are good at separating you from your money. I imagine for most of those guys its money well spend and they head back home with smiles in on their faces and lighter wallets. For long term guys like myself the bars have become a thing of the past as far as dipping the old wick when the urge arises. We have seen the changes in the girls attitude, the increasing prices for lackluster service and said enough is enough of this B.S. With the proliferation of dating sites, i.e. Thai Friendly its easy to get a lady for the quick in and out at prices that are more like what you paid in a bar ten or even fifteen years ago. Im talking 1000 baht for two hours with someone who will come to you and not come and go in heated rush. Here in Chiang Mai I keep these ladies on speed dial and am constantly adding to the list, its just that simple. Date/go with a bargirl again?? Yeah right, when pigs fly.

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[MaxYakov]

For the 50% that do, it's not doubt for the scintillating conversation on current events, philosophy, geography, science, math, etc.

[gk10002000]

Does short time or long time count as dating?

[gk10002000]

11 minutes ago, MaxYakov said:

For the 50% that do, it's not doubt for the scintillating conversation on current events, philosophy, geography, science, math, etc.

Of course.  Then try politics, democracy, history of dictatorships and coups from around the world, and of course religion.

[Time Traveller]

Maybe they like getting STI / STDs all the time? 

Hey, some people also like getting face tattoos, go figure.

[Lacessit]

6 hours ago, CharlieH said:

errrmmm excuse me gents, isnt there a difference between making love and having sex ? Having sex is mostly self gratification, making love with someone you love, and loves you, is an entirely different thing....isnt it ? I know which one I would prefer, and you dont get it if you rent.

There's an old saying men give love for sex, and women give sex for love. I'd define making love as the time when one of two is not going to make it, knows it, and focuses on giving the other an orgasm.

There's a difference. However, I have made love and had sex and enjoyed both. Many rentals are unsatisfactory. However, every so often I used to get one that was sensational.

[Spidey]

7 hours ago, CharlieH said:

errrmmm excuse me gents, isnt there a difference between making love and having sex ? Having sex is mostly self gratification, making love with someone you love, and loves you, is an entirely different thing....isnt it ? I know which one I would prefer, and you dont get it if you rent.

Not strictly true. The majority of bar girls that I have "rented" have got just as much out of it as me, sometimes more.

 

I can remember one girl, returning to the bar after a session upstairs with me, loudly proclaiming to her mates (in Lao), "he make me come 3 times!". Little witch should have paid me!

[Lacessit]

39 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Not strictly true. The majority of bar girls that I have "rented" have got just as much out of it as me, sometimes more.

 

I can remember one girl, returning to the bar after a session upstairs with me, loudly proclaiming to her mates (in Lao), "he make me come 3 times!". Little witch should have paid me!

Ah, that's what she said. But did it actually happen? There's a saying women can fake orgasms, but men can fake whole relationships.

Maybe you should have paid extra for the face she gave you with the other girls.

[Spidey]

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

Ah, that's what she said. But did it actually happen? There's a saying women can fake orgasms, but men can fake whole relationships.

Maybe you should have paid extra for the face she gave you with the other girls.

She said it in Lao. She didn't know that I could speak Lao (always a mistake to let bar girls know that you speak Thai and Lao) why would she say that to her mates?

 

I been around long enough and been with enough women to know the difference between a fake and real orgasm, believe me. Yes, bargirls do sometimes fake orgasms, primarily to hurry the job along. That wasn't the case on this occasion.

[Tradewind777]

22 hours ago, Hayduke said:

 

Renting is better than buying.

 

 

Yes, as the saying goes: “if it flies, floats or f@cks, you should always RENT IT”

[BritManToo]

9 hours ago, CharlieH said:

errrmmm excuse me gents, isnt there a difference between making love and having sex ? Having sex is mostly self gratification, making love with someone you love, and loves you, is an entirely different thing....isnt it ? I know which one I would prefer, and you dont get it if you rent.

Can't say as I never found a woman that loved me.

Theoretically, I would agree with you.

[superal]

20 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

"honey you are great, but we need to bring your friend home too."

 

that is why.

Boy or girl ? ????

[elgenon]

When on a "regular" date the evening's ending is a gamble. With a bargirl the result you want is more likely. BTW having dates and getting married can be 2 different things.

[hobobo]

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 7:35 AM, brewsterbudgen said:

It's not dating if they are working as a prostitute. If they pack in the sex work, then some ex-bargirls can make great girlfriends, long-term partners or wives. One just has to find the right one.

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And if you try fifty, or a hundred, your chances of finding the right one increase. Except by then you may get hooked on trying! 

[Captain 776]

When I was in the market.......years ago.......I MUCH PREFERRED the “business model” at Bliss Lounge-You and Me-The Pumphouse-the French place on Soi 33- Excite- and the other bars that specialized in that aspect of entertainment.

 

lolol and don’t forget the Telephone Bar on Soi Batman.......that place is beyond words and there is a good reason they keep the door locked at all times.

 

Just go for yourself n see....LOLOLOL be prepared

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, Spidey said:

She said it in Lao. She didn't know that I could speak Lao (always a mistake to let bar girls know that you speak Thai and Lao) why would she say that to her mates?

 

I been around long enough and been with enough women to know the difference between a fake and real orgasm, believe me. Yes, bargirls do sometimes fake orgasms, primarily to hurry the job along. That wasn't the case on this occasion.

Fair enough. I still think you should be grateful for the free advertisement.

[dreaming]

On 5/5/2019 at 10:05 AM, yogi100 said:

For the overwhelming number of Falang visitors to Pattaya the only way they're ever going to get a 'girl friend' is if they pay for one. I'm the same.

 

Even the ones who settle with a 'wife' have only been married for their money.

 

But it suits lots of us. Probably more than it suits them because they've got to be on their best behaviour all the time while we haven't.

I fixed it for you

 

For the overwhelming number of Falang visitors to Pattaya the only way they're ever going to get a 'girl friend' half their age is if they pay for one. I'm the same.

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 11:54 AM, rooster59 said:

Paying a ‘retainer’ to the girl each month for starters, but remember my point on perception, some foreigners would defend it by saying you would look after a regular girlfriend in the same way. I cannot look at it in this way, the bar girl expects this money in order to stay with you, a normal girlfriend would be supportive of you.

Silly comparison. A farang ( there is no such beast as a "normal" girlfriend ) GF would support you if she was working, and a bar girl's job includes sleeping with strangers, so do you want her to continue that job, or will you pay her not to sleep with other guys as well as you?

Personally, I liked that if there was a problem with her, if I didn't give her money she went away and I could find someone else. Try that with a farang GF, or even a non prossy Thai GF, or even worse a wife.

 

BTW, if one feels uncomfortable about being with a BG, that is one's own problem. Could always find a hiso, uni educated Thai girl and pay her parents a million baht for the pleasure of sleeping with her.

 

[thaibeachlovers]

8 hours ago, Spidey said:

She said it in Lao. She didn't know that I could speak Lao (always a mistake to let bar girls know that you speak Thai and Lao) why would she say that to her mates?

 

I been around long enough and been with enough women to know the difference between a fake and real orgasm, believe me. Yes, bargirls do sometimes fake orgasms, primarily to hurry the job along. That wasn't the case on this occasion.

There is a physiological response to orgasm that can't be faked, but it does not have to have anything to do with the person she is with. A girl can have an orgasm all by herself just like a man can, and if a man stimulates her properly she has an orgasm. She just has to close her eyes and pretend it's someone she actually likes.

If a guy doesn't know the difference, it's probably because he's never been with a woman that actually had a real one.

[balo]

A bar girl is a prostiture, I always look at them like that, fun to be around and play with, that's all .

 

Thats why I never married one. My advise is to fInd your dream girl before she finds the bar. 

 

 

[OneMoreFarang]

I think it's interesting to see how many guys here care if the bar-girl who they pay enjoys the time and has an orgasm.

She does a job! And her just is to make the customer happy.

If we have i.e. a traditional massage and the girl works two hours to make us feel better do you also ask if she had a good time and if you should also massage her for an hour or two? And the principle is the same in almost any job.

Personally I think hiring a bar girl is like producing your private porn film. You produce it, you are the main actor and the idea is that you get what you want and the others get paid to do a good job playing their role. Maybe they also enjoy it, maybe not, who cares?

 

Coming back to the original question with a bar-girl as girlfriend: Yes, if you want that then obviously you should care about her feelings and you should have a good time together. But these are two different scenarios which have little to do with each other.

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If a guy doesn't know the difference, it's probably because he's never been with a woman that actually had a real one.

I'm calling delusional BS on this one.

Women are experts at hiding their feelings about you, both positive and negative.

She'll hide real ones and fake others depending on her moods and motives.

 

I lived with a nymphomaniac for nearly a year, she always had an orgasm, and would never reveal when it happened. If I'd finished before she had, I would be given detailed instructions on how to proceed, until she said, "you can stop now"..

Edited May 6, 2019 by BritManToo

[OneMoreFarang]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If a guy doesn't know the difference, it's probably because he's never been with a woman that actually had a real one.

I'm calling delusional BS on this one.

Women are experts at hiding their feelings about you, both positive and negative.

She'll hide real ones and fake others depending on her moods and motives.

 

I lived with a nymphomaniac for nearly a year, she always had an orgasm, and would never reveal when it happened. If I'd finished before she had, I would be given detailed instructions on how to proceed, until she said, "you can stop now"..

Edited just now by BritManToo

How about rhythmic contractions? Can women fake them? Obviously there are situations in which it's easier or more difficult too feel them. But I am pretty sure that is difficult to fake.

[BritManToo]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How about rhythmic contractions? Can women fake them? Obviously there are situations in which it's easier or more difficult too feel them. But I am pretty sure that is difficult to fake.

I'm not that sensitive, and I've never really cared.

If I'm paying it's only ME that counts.

Edited May 6, 2019 by BritManToo

[scorecard]

So your facebook page brings balanced professional survey data? 

[Lacessit]

3 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

How about rhythmic contractions? Can women fake them? Obviously there are situations in which it's easier or more difficult too feel them. But I am pretty sure that is difficult to fake.

Yes they can. Usually from just inside the labia. Genuine ones are more deep seated.

[samuttodd]

19 hours ago, brokenbone said:

bear in mind most men here are above 50 and thusly

has no chance of 'dating' any girl without paying for it.

you were not above 50 and thus couldnt relate

Whew,  I'm still on the right side of 50 for the next 5 months.  

 

In answer to the question posed in the title,  why not?   If she is kind to you and you both enjoy each others company... But only if she can forgive you for having feelings for (and  dating) a prostitute.

Edited May 6, 2019 by samuttodd