Thai army to buy 37 US-made armored cars

[NCC1701A]

i want one for the Thai highways.

 

 

[neeray]

It seems like the whole world has gone crazy for the latest, greatest war toys. And of course Trump is encouraging this by insisting that many countries increase defence spending.

 

 

[Psimbo]

How dare a military upgrade and modernise- the temerity of it all. The army is still running M41, 48 and 60 tanks, along with 70s era CVR(T) and M113 APCs as another example of aging equipment

 

Imagine the wailing and beating of chests that would go on in here if inferior kit was found to be responsible for the deaths of soldiers (cue memories of ancient helis and bomb 'detectors'). I would suggest though that Stryker is overkill technology wise. Most up to date Russian/Ukraine (BTR-3- already in service) or Chinese kit (VN-1- 34 on order) would do the job that the Thai Army requires and keep the guys protected commensurate with the current and perceived threats against them.  

 

This is a very small purchase in the big scheme of things. Given the number involved one wonders if the VN-1 order of 34 vehicles due for delivery next year may have been cancelled. The big thing is commonality of equipment for maintenance and training. 3 different types of wheeled AFV is not ideal when they are basically all filling the same role (although Stryker does have variants the others don't.   

[trainman34014]

3 hours ago, worgeordie said:

If only they could put the utilities in good order first,so the

electricity does not go off everytime it rains or it gets a little 

windy,or a constant water pressure ,these things would improve

everyone's life, but never happens,not enough commission in it.

 

Whom does Thailand see as its enemies ?,maybe their own 

population,who one day might say enough is enough,

regards worgeorddie

Yes; you can't blow your nose or f**t without the lights going out !

 

As for the population; sadly a vast number of them will need several years to grow a brain before they will ever know what 'enough' is !

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Longcut said:

Shopping elsewhere. Their Chinese credit card must be maxed out. 

 

I think there was a parallel order for Chinese vehicles, but not sure what's the status now. Relative to the air force and navy shopping list, this is peanuts anyway.

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, neeray said:

It seems like the whole world has gone crazy for the latest, greatest war toys. And of course Trump is encouraging this by insisting that many countries increase defence spending.

 

 

 

Did Trump make such a demand related to Thailand?

[neeray]

4 minutes ago, Morch said:

many countries

I thought this post out carefully due to expected reactions from members like you. And for you, I purposely placed the words "many countries". That covered my ass.

So what's your problem?

Please read each post carefully before you jump on the poster.

[wisperone]

3 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

Those that sign/approve the contract no doubt will consider that they have indeed won the lottery given the proliferation of kick backs.

AKA money laundering.

[DrTuner]

Oh, interesting. Got fed up with the Chinese gear did they? Or just the negotiating tactics? Or is somebody applying pressure? Ze plot thinkens.

[DrTuner]

59 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

i want one for the Thai highways.

 

 

Luckily, it is legal to drive a tank in Thailand. But don't drive a car without a windshield.

 

Ah the useful information you can learn from the driving license test at the land office. Now can I place my order on the same slip?

[neeray]

3 minutes ago, DrTuner said:

Oh, interesting. Got fed up with the Chinese gear did they? Or just the negotiating tactics? Or is somebody applying pressure? Ze plot thinkens.

"applying pressure" is probably the correct assumption.

[Lenny Jones]

Perfect vehicle for civil unrest - - - - - - - - Just sayin'

[Phuketshrew]

As mentioned on a previous thread, it's all about keeping the trough full of swill ...

[Morch]

40 minutes ago, neeray said:

I thought this post out carefully due to expected reactions from members like you. And for you, I purposely placed the words "many countries". That covered my ass.

So what's your problem?

Please read each post carefully before you jump on the poster.

 

This topic ain't really about Trump. And even if it was, you'd need to substantiate that relevant countries did, in fact increase their military spending following Trump's demands, and that such funds were directed toward arms purchases. But this here topic is about Thailand.

[surangw]

some general retiring soon?

 

[neeray]

47 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

This topic ain't really about Trump. And even if it was, you'd need to substantiate that relevant countries did, in fact increase their military spending following Trump's demands, and that such funds were directed toward arms purchases. But this here topic is about Thailand.

I know, I can read. I read every word and get the true essence of a post.

Have a great day.

Bye

[lemonjelly]

Sounds like they’re being stationed not too far from the Cambodian border (?)... just beefing up security hardware in case of any future problems 

Edited May 14, 2019 by lemonjelly

[Traubert]

8 hours ago, Briggsy said:

It has been used successfully in Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq.

 

 

Remind me how those went again?

 

How many did ISIS get their hands on when everyone ran away?

[lonewolf99]

Are all the Americans on this forum happy with a despot junta buying tanks from their country ?

An army that has basically killed more Thai civilians than any foreign force.

 

 

[Traubert]

5 hours ago, DrTuner said:

Oh, interesting. Got fed up with the Chinese gear did they? Or just the negotiating tactics? Or is somebody applying pressure? Ze plot thinkens.

Ordered by China in the background for a spot of reverse engineering.

 

Those pesky ChiComs eh?

[DrTuner]

30 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Ordered by China in the background for a spot of reverse engineering.

 

Those pesky ChiComs eh?

Ah they don't need to do that, they got moles in US defense industry.

[webfact]

UPDATE:

 

Srisuwan questions timing of weapons purchase

By THE NATION

 

SRISUWAN JANYA, secretary-general of the Association for the Protection of the Constitution, has objected to the Army’s announcement that it will purchase “M1126 Stryker” infantry carrier vehicles worth US$80 million (Bt2.5 billion) from the US.

 

Full story: https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1100530-srisuwan-questions-timing-of-weapons-purchase/

[stephen tracy]

18 hours ago, Briggsy said:

Whilst I understand that military forces around the world need to be in a state of readiness, I would like to point out that the Stryker is a substantial armoured vehicle designed for battlefield operations.

 

I am confident that this is yet another in a string of military hardware purchases that will never be used or need to be used to even a fraction of its potential. They will be left to rot along with the submarines and the aircraft carrier, the fighter jets and the tanks until there is no longer the slightest hope that they will ever be returned to anything approaching usable condition.

 

One would think they could come up with a way to rort the budget without so much incredible waste. Let's say half is creamed off. That's $US 40 million. Why not just take the $US 40 million and not bother with the armoured vehicles. It would save the country the other $US 40 million.

I read that they weren't effective against other combat vehicles but were better suited to urban use as they can be rapidly maneuvered into sheltered areas such as buildings or other structures where troops can be rapidly deployed. Put within the context of Thailand's political current political situation, it looks like Prayuth is planning ahead. 

[Lupatria]

15 hours ago, worgeordie said:

population,who one day might say enough is enough,

By the time that would happen only two of these crowd control vehicles will be fit to leave the army camps. Due to lack of maintenance the other 35 have to be towed by their owners newest Mercedes SUVs.

[cracker1]

Not sure why they didn't buy them from the Canadian manufacturer ?

[Thailand]

15 hours ago, CGW said:

You don't count Thailand as one of those though - do you?

Never having fought in the "new era" can only imagine the level of competence Thailand would bring to the battlefield! There would be no battle, only annihilation, or most likely, given there past - surrender!

But the generals all have chests full of medals, oops, forgot, you can buy anything on Lazada now.

[mikebell]

I used to think it was the Thai police that kept Thailand a 3rd World country.  I've changed my mind in the last four years.

[Scotssing]

That should allow each general in the army use of one armoured car one day of the week. Actually if my maths is right some would have to share

[Morty T]

13 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Did Trump make such a demand related to Thailand?

No, but the OP has to get his Trump bashing whenever possible. The only demands of this sort were made on our Nato friends, who don't mind upgrading as long as the US pays for it. 

[madmitch]

10 hours ago, lemonjelly said:

Sounds like they’re being stationed not too far from the Cambodian border (?)... just beefing up security hardware in case of any future problems 

Chachoengsao is only an hour or two from Bangkok so I'd guess that's more significant as unrest from within is much more likely than conflict with another nation.