German Jews warned not to wear kippas after rise in anti-Semitism

[webfact]

German Jews warned not to wear kippas after rise in anti-Semitism

 

The German government's anti-Semitism commissioner has urged Jews to avoid wearing skullcaps in public.

 

Felix Klein warned Jews against donning the kippa in parts of the country following a rise in anti-Semitism.

 

He said his opinion on the matter had "changed compared with what it used to be". Israel's President Reuven Rivlin said the recommendation amounted to "an admittance that, again, Jews are not safe on German soil".

 

Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48411735

 

 

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[TopDeadSenter]

quote from the BBC article "Physical attacks against Jews in Germany also rose in the same period, with 62 violent incidents recorded, up from 37 in 2017."

 

 That is a 67% increase in physical attacks against Jews in just 1 year. Absolutely shocking. What on earth has been happening in Germany for this culture of violence and hatred to be flourishing like this??

[wwest5829]

29 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote from the BBC article "Physical attacks against Jews in Germany also rose in the same period, with 62 violent incidents recorded, up from 37 in 2017."

 

 That is a 67% increase in physical attacks against Jews in just 1 year. Absolutely shocking. What on earth has been happening in Germany for this culture of violence and hatred to be flourishing like this??

Death throes of the majority Caucasian population as it becomes a minority. Not limited to Europe. Same demographics taking place around the globe as the Asian, Latin American and African population is increasing and the national Caucasian population is shrinking.

[helpisgood]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

The German government's anti-Semitism commissioner

 

Actually, it's a little scary and/or sad that such a governmental position is even deemed necessary, especially from a country that has otherwise produced great art (e.g., Goethe) and many other things of much cultural and also scientific value and so on.  I wish them all the best in controlling and, God be willing, maybe someday even solving this unfortunate problem.  

 

By the way, as we all know, bigotry reveals its ugliness elsewhere in many other places.  So, on the other hand, this also reveals Germany's determination to make their part of the world a better place.

 

 

[impulse]

12 minutes ago, wwest5829 said:

Death throes of the majority Caucasian population as it becomes a minority. Not limited to Europe. Same demographics taking place around the globe as the Asian, Latin American and African population is increasing and the national Caucasian population is shrinking.

 

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that most of the attackers were Caucasian.

 

Ya just don't see that many ethnic skinheads.

 

Edited May 27, 2019 by impulse

[BritManToo]

Just now, impulse said:

 

If I were a betting man, I'd bet that most of the attackers were Caucasian.

 

I'd be betting it's a (Muslim) semite on (Jewish) semite problem.

[impulse]

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd be betting it's a (Muslim) semite on (Jewish) semite problem.

I may be wrong. 

 

But every recent documentary I've seen on anti-Semitic violence has been at the hands of white skinheads and Neo-Nazis.  They're not too amenable to recruiting Muslims.

 

[ezzra]

Nothing has changed over the last 2000 years where jews were persecuted, demonised, slaughtered, waged war upon them by mighty armies, over and over, exiled from their homeland numerous times just because they are Jews, and now in the US and other countries there's a resurrections of anti jewish sentiments, can anyone say why? no, not really, when the world need to hate someone, there are always the jews for it...

[simple1]

6 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'd be betting it's a (Muslim) semite on (Jewish) semite problem.

Incorrect.

 

Jewish groups have warned that a rise in popularity of far-right groups is fostering anti-Semitism and hatred of other minorities throughout Europe.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48411735

 

 

 

[metisdead]

Troll posts and replies have been removed. 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote from the BBC article "Physical attacks against Jews in Germany also rose in the same period, with 62 violent incidents recorded, up from 37 in 2017."

 

 That is a 67% increase in physical attacks against Jews in just 1 year. Absolutely shocking. What on earth has been happening in Germany for this culture of violence and hatred to be flourishing like this??

If you are genuinely seeking an answer to your question then the language of AfD and other right wing groups is a good place to start.

 

I’m not going to repeat or link to the filth views these groups have expressed and broadcast, you can look it up for yourself.

 

 

[Tug]

The normalization of far right wing white supremacy speech 

[sanemax]

11 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

If you are genuinely seeking an answer to your question then the language of AfD and other right wing groups is a good place to start.

 

I’m not going to repeat or link to the filth views these groups have expressed and broadcast, you can look it up for yourself.

 

 

Here is a BBC report about one attack on Jews in Germany ,

The attacker spoke Arabic, 

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43812273

 

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

Here is a BBC report about one attack on Jews in Germany ,

The attacker spoke Arabic, 

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43812273

 

One single attack.

 

Not a mathematician then.

[Skallywag]

Why don't women wear kippahs and why don't men wear hijabs or burkas? .....these ridiculous religious practices are just that -ridiculous .  If you "identify" with mythological separatist "beliefs" and "faiths",  you are living in your own fantasy

[bender92]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote from the BBC article "Physical attacks against Jews in Germany also rose in the same period, with 62 violent incidents recorded, up from 37 in 2017."

 

 That is a 67% increase in physical attacks against Jews in just 1 year. Absolutely shocking. What on earth has been happening in Germany for this culture of violence and hatred to be flourishing like this??

Maybe the influx of muslims?

[DingDongLing]

5 minutes ago, bender92 said:

Maybe the influx of muslims?

Jews in Iran have lived peacefully together, just saw it on youtube.  Not even a security guard at the syn agog 

[metisdead]

An offensive troll post has been removed as well as the replies. 

[Geoffggi]

Thought this was a Monty Python fish slapping sketch........

[candide]

Some time ago they forced them to wear yellow stars, and now they advise them not to wear kippas.....

 

Sad event in both case, only a difference in level.

[Emdog]

In USA, FBI stats show 58% of hate crimes done against Jews, which are 1.8% of population. 18% against Muslims, 1.4% of population. 80% of hate crimes fell within race, ethnicity, ancestry or religious bias.

Rather than Jews not wearing skullcaps, how about responding like Danes did during Nazi occupation? Everyone wear one.

"If you "identify" with mythological separatist "beliefs" and "faiths",  you are living in your own fantasy" I'm an atheist. "Living in your own fantasy" should be okay as long as don't force that fantasy on others IMO. What's next? Attacks on cosplayers? 

[Morch]

And there goes the routine - one group of posters alleges it's all about extreme right, the other contingent says it's all about Muslims. News flash - cherry-picking aside, not mutually exclusive.

 

Posters may want to consult this, and follow some of the links included:

 

 

Antisemitism in 21st century Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st_century_Germany

 

[Morch]

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

One single attack.

 

Not a mathematician then.

 

Not a single attack by a long shot, a single report linked. Plenty of others. Could be asked which of the main groups cited by posters contributes more to the tally, but that's not quite the same what the post above was about, is it? 

[BritManToo]

2 hours ago, impulse said:

I may be wrong. 

 

But every recent documentary I've seen on anti-Semitic violence has been at the hands of white skinheads and Neo-Nazis.  They're not too amenable to recruiting Muslims.

The media has a socialist, globalist, multicultural agenda, what they portray often isn't the truth.

But I agree you may be right, it's hard to pick out what's really happening in the world these days.

 

From Morch's link

"A study among Jews, that was published by the European Union in 2018, has also listed muslims as the biggest perpetrator group of antisemitic incidents in Germany; 41% of attacks were committed by extremist muslims, 20% by far right and 16% by far left extremists, according to the study."

 

Also interesting to read in Germany all attacks on Jews by unidentified assailants is automatically classed as 'far right'.

Edited May 27, 2019 by BritManToo

[TopDeadSenter]

7 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

41% of attacks were committed by extremist muslims,

This can't be right surely? Muslims only make up around 5% of the German population, which makes them vastly over-represented if this tiny group is responsible for a huge 41% of attacks. If the statistic above is correct then there is a huge problem with muslim hate crime in Germany. This would need tackling urgently not swept under the rug and ignored. Harping on about some alleged "far right" is missing the point completely. Perhaps intentionally?

[Morch]

19 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

The media has a socialist, globalist, multicultural agenda, what they portray often isn't the truth.

But I agree you may be right, it's hard to pick out what's really happening in the world these days.

 

From Morch's link

"A study among Jews, that was published by the European Union in 2018, has also listed muslims as the biggest perpetrator group of antisemitic incidents in Germany; 41% of attacks were committed by extremist muslims, 20% by far right and 16% by far left extremists, according to the study."

 

Also interesting to read in Germany all attacks on Jews by unidentified assailants is automatically classed as 'far right'.

 

Let the cherry-picking begin.

 

[simple1]

On 5/27/2019 at 9:28 AM, Morch said:

And there goes the routine - one group of posters alleges it's all about extreme right, the other contingent says it's all about Muslims. News flash - cherry-picking aside, not mutually exclusive.

 

Posters may want to consult this, and follow some of the links included:

 

 

Antisemitism in 21st century Germany

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_in_21st_century_Germany

 

As a counterpoint there is the link below which firmly places the rise of anti Semitic incidents on the far right.

 

Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said around 90% of the 1,800 recorded incidents were perpetrated by supporters of far-right groups. The main offences included hate speech, anti-Semitic graffiti and displaying banned signs like the swastika.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics-seehofer/germany-sees-20-rise-in-anti-semitic-crime-in-2018-blames-far-right-idUSKCN1SK1QX

[Morch]

Here's a link to a (long, be warned) article from the New York Times, giving a more in-depth analysis:

 

The New German Anti-Semitism

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/magazine/anti-semitism-germany.html

 

 

[Morch]

On 5/27/2019 at 11:27 AM, simple1 said:

As a counterpoint there is the link below which firmly places the rise of anti Semitic incidents on the far right.

 

Interior Minister Horst Seehofer said around 90% of the 1,800 recorded incidents were perpetrated by supporters of far-right groups. The main offences included hate speech, anti-Semitic graffiti and displaying banned signs like the swastika.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-germany-politics-seehofer/germany-sees-20-rise-in-anti-semitic-crime-in-2018-blames-far-right-idUSKCN1SK1QX

 

As a counterpoint to the expected counterpoint, may want to read up on how the affiliation of perpetrators is determined and how undecided/unclear cases are labeled. There's plenty of data tossed about regarding percentages and attributing blame, enough to fit almost any narrative. Kinda doubt that politics aren't part of how things parceled. Pretty much as these things go on TVF topics.

[simple1]

3 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

As a counterpoint to the expected counterpoint, may want to read up on how the affiliation of perpetrators is determined and how undecided/unclear cases are labeled. There's plenty of data tossed about regarding percentages and attributing blame, enough to fit almost any narrative. Kinda doubt that politics aren't part of how things parceled. Pretty much as these things go on TVF topics.

I'm aware, but the link I provided is quite recent. Just maybe I'm being naive, but would think that the critique of stats coming out of Germany would have been addressed by the Interior Minister by way of using empirical data