webfact Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Underground “monkey cheeks” proposed to ease flooding in Bangkok Underground “monkey cheeks”, or flood water retention basins, could help ease flood problems in Bangkok and this innovation can be implemented immediately, according to Professor Suchatvee Suwansawat, president of the Council of Engineers, on Thursday. He said that retention of excess water underground was introduced in Tokyo which, like Bangkok, does not have room to retain excess water in case of heavy rain. He identified Chatuchak Park and the swamp at the former Thailand Tobacco Monopoly’s compound in Makkasan as two potential sites where flood water can be stored underground and thus help ease repeated flooding at Lad Phrao, Bang Sue and on Vibhavadi Rangsit highway and Ramkhamhaeng and Sukhumvit roads. Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/underground-monkey-cheeks-proposed-to-ease-flooding-in-bangkok/ -- © Copyright Thai PBS 2019-06-14 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: Professor Suchatvee Suwansawat, president of the Council of Engineers, on Thursday. said that retention of excess water underground was introduced in Tokyo which, like Bangkok, does not have room to retain excess water in case of heavy rain. However….unlike Bangkok, the Japanese government officials don’t artificially inflate the budget and then siphon the majority of the funding off into their personal bank accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, webfact said: as two potential sites where flood water can be stored underground and thus provide underground parking for the sub's .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfill Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? You order a few more monkeys to go down there and fill their cheeks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 53 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? Get a budget for another one... just like all the other projects that fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Monster Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 58 minutes ago, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? It is highly likely that the ground proposed for these " Monkey Cheeks " is already saturated, as Bangkok is only 1 mtr above Sea level. Me thinks the Tea Cup is already full. Another Pattaya Beach type saga in the making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, mrfill said: You order a few more monkeys to go down there and fill their cheeks... Cheeky monkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I think the professor failed his hydrology subjects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, webfact said: He identified Chatuchak Park and the swamp at the former Thailand Tobacco Monopoly’s compound in Makkasan as two potential sites where flood water can be stored underground and thus help ease repeated flooding at Lad Phrao, Bang Sue and on Vibhavadi Rangsit highway and Ramkhamhaeng and Sukhumvit roads. So the use of a swamp to store flood water is an interesting proposal. What becomes of the water already there? Remember Bangkok is built on a swamp and is sinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wotsdermatter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Seem to recall that the late monarch made a similar suggestion but using land on the outskirts of Bangkok, but it appears that the idea was never acted upon. 'nuf sed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Even though some dont understand the “monkey cheeks” concept, Thai bashing has started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 3 hours ago, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? It floods again...but meanwhile all the State Officials involved in the project have become considerably richer...Next ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 I'd be curious as to the explanation of how the Thais came to start calling flood retention basins as "monkey cheeks," as opposed to something more colorful like, ohh.... say.... "frud basin." And especially, some clarity about when they're talking about their "money cheeks," do the mean the ones on the faces of the monkeys, or the other cheeks in their nether regions??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Triangle Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 ooooh look, someone woke up an apologist, please give us your insight oh great one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 5 hours ago, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? It's all here (3 pages): https://www.nippon.com/en/views/b06302/underground-temple-safeguards-greater-tokyo-from-floods.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfd101 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 23 minutes ago, Enoon said: It's all here (3 pages): https://www.nippon.com/en/views/b06302/underground-temple-safeguards-greater-tokyo-from-floods.html Well, THAT is impressive: well-designed, well-built, everything works as planned. Of course Thailand will seek detailed advice & perhaps even design from Japan ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Here is some information about the subject matter, for anyone interested. During floods, huge volumes of water need to be stored in rivers, canals, reservoirs, ponds, low land or floodplain areas. However, if natural storage is not enough, excessive flood water will flow downstream and inundate economically important community areas, resulting in huge economic damage (eg., 2011 in Thailand. There are many flood mitigation measures but a method to alleviate flooding problem is to store water in the detention area known as Kaem Ling or Monkey’s Cheek in Thailand. It is part of the Thai government’s plans for flood mitigation and water management in the long run. A successful project is the Mahachai-Sanamchai Canal Monkey Cheek which stores flood water in the upper area and, at the same time, releases water into the Gulf of Thailand in relation to the tide levels of the sea by relying on the use of gravity and pumping stations. The project comprises improvement and construction of regulators and pumping stations in canals in the area of an irrigation project, which yields considerable alleviation of flooding problem as indicated by results simulated by a mathematical model simulation. This concept will be applied to lowland and irrigation project areas in the Yom and Nan River Basins—tributaries of the Chao Phraya River Basin, north of Nakhon Sawan province https://www.icid.org/wif2_full_papers/wif2_w.2.2.22.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 They are experts at spanking the monkey !!! I can foresee quite a few sink holes appearing after this cheeky en devour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Paul Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 HAD any GOVERNMENT implemented good drainage in the first place, taking into account the monsoon type rains then this would never happen. Sadly as other have commented , peoples pockets are deeper and bigger than the drains REQUIRED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 hours ago, ravip said: Even though some dont understand the “monkey cheeks” concept, Thai bashing has started! How many have you hugged today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berybert Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 They will cover the road with monkeys and hope they drink all the water to get rid of the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 I think this is likely to fail. Has anybody tested a monkey's ability to retain flood water? Pufferfish is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, canuckamuck said: I think this is likely to fail. Has anybody tested a monkey's ability to retain flood water? Pufferfish is the answer. Once you start diverging it will end with elephants bladders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 13 hours ago, mfd101 said: Well, THAT is impressive: well-designed, well-built, everything works as planned. Of course Thailand will seek detailed advice & perhaps even design from Japan ... Or not.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHangingJudge Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 3:35 PM, mfd101 said: Not sure I understand the THEORY of this, let alone the likely corrupt & incompetent putting-into-practice ... So you have a 'monkey cheek', of whatever size. Even the largest will fill within, let's say, 4 hours in & after a downpour. And then what happens? All of these clowns go home after a round of slaps on the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/15/2019 at 6:42 AM, PatOngo said: How many have you hugged today? It is sad to see when people fall so low... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 On 6/14/2019 at 10:09 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said: I'd be curious as to the explanation of how the Thais came to start calling flood retention basins as "monkey cheeks," as opposed to something more colorful like, ohh.... say.... "frud basin." And especially, some clarity about when they're talking about their "money cheeks," do the mean the ones on the faces of the monkeys, or the other cheeks in their nether regions??? Monkey cheeks must have originated from the baboon asses from which some of these so called "experts" speak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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