New laws target people in Thailand who smoke at home

[PEE TEE]

How are they going to enforce it 

[Pedrogaz]

Laws like this are very poor indeed....apart from the nanny state aspect, laws need bright lines. What on earth does this mean:"if their habit has a negative effect on other family members due to exposure to second-hand smoke." How is this measured? Does one need a medical opinion?

 

I gave up smoking over 40 years ago and apart from on planes I have no problem with people smoking. Puns have been killed off by overzealous idiots demanding that people conform to their will...thou shalt not smoke.

 

I understand bigots trying to ban stuff they see as harmful but it is, in reality, is heavy handed policy. I look at the Prohibition and current drug policy and I just shake my head....the policies don't work. This law will not improve people's heath either because the whole second-hand smoke theory is spurious.

 

[PEE TEE]

Where do you get all this fake news 

[faraday]

1 minute ago, PEE TEE said:

Do you wear a mask when you go into town

Yes, & have duct tape, some rope & a blindfold.

 

[chrisinth]

I wonder what happens when the wife smokes and the husband doesn't? I don't see women mentioned as smokers anywhere in the OP.

 

To nip this in the bud it would be good to see the first complaint against the mother rather than the male spouse; that might get them out of their ivory towers and face the reality that it is not just men that smoke.

 

But, for clarity, as a smoker I agree that nobody should be smoking near children, from infants to teenagers.

[PEE TEE]

2 minutes ago, faraday said:

Yes, & have duct tape, some rope & a blindfold.

 

good for you 

[shaurene]

Their brains work with their ideas but the brains shut down when it comes to implementing and working out the after effects. Ban smoking in vehicles, in public areas, and especially where children are. 

[PEE TEE]

6 minutes ago, shaurene said:

Their brains work with their ideas but the brains shut down when it comes to implementing and working out the after effects. Ban smoking in vehicles, in public areas, and especially where children are. 

Brains ???????

[bluesea]

Yer Yer Yer just play there silly game. Do you think common sense will prevail, do not past go do not collect 200 baht!

[Vacuum]

29 minutes ago, faraday said:

Yes, & have duct tape, some rope & a blindfold.

 

Don't forget the plastic bag.

[peter14]

This Country on  the verge on of revolution fear  and violence...   

[Mosha]

And just in time Big Joke returns as the enforcer.

[Bert got kinky]

7 minutes ago, Vacuum said:

Don't forget the plastic bag.

 

Why, is sex involved in this plot?

[Vacuum]

15 hours ago, sharpjwe said:

This to protect the children 

how can parents poison their own offspring 

good law for sure 

How can parents let their 9 year old offsprings ride a  motobike (without helmets of course)?

[bronzedude]

A very enforceable law--just kidding. 500 baht fine--just kidding. Go to your neighbor's house and smoke--not kidding.

[Vacuum]

1 minute ago, Bert got kinky said:

 

Why, is sex involved in this plot?

TIT... sex everywhere.

[newatthis]

24 minutes ago, chrisinth said:

But, for clarity, as a smoker I agree that nobody should be smoking near children, from infants to teenagers.

It's time to pack the children up and send them to live with the inlaws. The choice is a smooth, relaxing, satisfying Camel with the JW after work or a demanding kid who won't let you relax.

[ChrisKC]

I don't think it is violence but it IS a violation to expose dirty used smoke from cigarettes to innocents living in the home with a smoker. it is a violation as it relates to all individuals that have the right to breathe in fresh air. Oh, I know about the pollution but the smoking aspect adds to the problem and to some extent, people saying that staying indoors maybe escape the pollution outside - but can't stay inside for three months, no!.

 

It is never right to state that its (perceived) importance is at the expense of greater needs and therefore do nothing. Many thousands die everywhere in the world from the effects of smoking - what's wrong with doing something really positive? Will it work? I don't know - wait and see!

 

When I discovered in 1980 the irrefutable proof that passive smoking is harmful to my family, I immediately gave up - it just seemed to be the caring and responsible thing to do. I do not expect to be criticised for it or being thought of as "holier than Thou".

 

I have some (not much) sympathy with those who believe this measure by the Government is a violation of their human rights and another nail in the coffin of freedom to choose.

 

It's a bit like wearing a crash helmet or your safety belt. Not because it's the law but because it affords protection from more serious effects in the event of accidents - caring and being responsible!

[Dumbastheycome]

I feel assaulted every time I walk past a food stall where they are frying chillies !

 

[peterpaintpot]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

If it can be proved that the health problems of family members stems from second- or third-hand smoke at home, it can lead to two court trials: one in Criminal Court for ‘domestic assault’ via smoke and the other at the Central Juvenile and Family Court. This could lead to a court injunction to protect the health of family members, with the smoker being sent to a rehabilitation centre to kick the habit,” Lertpanya said

Like many government plans from countries around the globe it has been made with good intentions but is completely unworkable.The definition of the offence is not fact based but based on opinion, resulting in poor people being found guilty unlike the rich who will buy, oops meant employ, a medical expert who will prove that cigarette smoke was not the cause.

[rwill]

2 hours ago, smedly said:

I agree that no one should smoke in enclosed spaces especially in the presence of children but this law is unenforceable, especially since general air quality in Thailand is as bad as it is, cigarette smoke is way down the list when it comes to air pollution in Thailand

How the law will be enforced is when you go to the doctor/hospital with a lung ailment and the first thing they will ask is, "Does anyone smoke at your home?"

[Road Warrior]

• best sensible law ever for Thailand,well done Thailand  

[30la]

Another step towards total control!

[chang1]

14 minutes ago, shaurene said:

Their brains work with their ideas but the brains shut down when it comes to implementing and working out the after effects. Ban smoking in vehicles, in public areas, and especially where children are. 

"especially where children are" such as in the house they live in?

Smokers generally think they have a right to smoke wherever they want regardless of how it affects other people or the litter left behind. 

Just see how many comments there are about how they will do as they please in their own homes. Not a problem unless a non smoker lives there or visits. A mate of mine who has done litter picking on roadsides said 90% of the rubbish was from smokers. 

Speaking as a non smoker who had to endure people's smoke for many years, even on planes, I think this is an excellent idea but as you say very hard to enforce and also open to abuse. A disgruntled neighbor could take a photo of you nipping inside to answer the phone with a fag in your hand from smoking outside. Passive smoking increases health risks but is impossible to say for certain that it caused an individual any harm. My godson has asthma which was likely caused by his chain smoking parents but he may have had it anyway.

 

[Khun Paul]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Thank you for kicking us off with a positive note. It's a breath of fresh air from the usual negative comments from the "knocking everything Thai" quarter.

Sadly with Pollution rampant in Thailand especially in the Cities and large towns, your

comments are baseless, more liable to catch something horrible from the pollution that smokers. grow a set 

[chang1]

9 minutes ago, Dumbastheycome said:

I feel assaulted every time I walk past a food stall where they are frying chillies !

 

But does it do you any lasting harm?

[Salerno]

9 minutes ago, chang1 said:

A mate of mine who has done litter picking on roadsides said 90% of the rubbish was from smokers.

How did he know the person that had dumped the plastic bags, fast food containers, drink bottles, cans etc. was a smoker?

[Jim Brantley]

If their concern is for physical and mental health then they have more laws to pass.  I mean, bug spray is bad for you, foods containing sugar are bad, and I won't even go into all the chemicals found in the average house which are not only just bad, but out-and-out poisonous.  Then there are the things which can scar a child mentally:  loud arguments, video games, bad cooking, violence on TV...the list of things which need to be banned is incredibly long.  They should get busy and start passing more laws. 

[THE REVERAND]

The Big Joke is back and idiotic Jokes have started. There is None so Blind as he who will not See.

[Dumbastheycome]

10 minutes ago, chang1 said:

But does it do you any lasting harm?

Perhaps not. Neither does a slap around the  ear usually. But still counts as assault. lol