webfact Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 Opposition look to grill PM over violent attack on political activist By The Nation The opposition will question Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Wednesday regarding Friday’s attack on political activist Sirawit Serithiwat, a Pheu Thai Party MP said on Sunday. Jirayu Huangsap, a Bangkok MP for Pheu Thai, said his party would request an interpellation at the meeting of the House of Representatives on Wednesday to question the prime minister. Thawee Sodsong, secretary-general of the Prachachart Party, said the opposition would also file a motion with House Speaker Chuan Leekpai for the setting up of a fact-finding committee to investigate the government’s use of power in this matter. The opposition politician called on the relevant authorities to find the attackers as soon as possible, adding that such an incident was negatively affecting the country’s image. "He had been under the close watch of authorities round the clock, so the fact that he got attacked twice recently raise suspicions that people in power may have been involved,” said Thawee, who also heads the opposition whips. Both Thawee and Jirayu were among politicians from the seven-party opposition bloc who visited Sirawit at Ramathibodi Hospital, where the activist was being treated for injuries sustained in the attack. Sirawit, who is better known in the media as “Ja New” (Sergeant New), was attacked around noon near his home by four men wearing crash helmets and carrying sticks. He suffered serious injuries, including a broken nose and a fracture of the eye socket. His mother Patnaree Charnkit said on Sunday that Sirawit was to undergo an operation on his broken nose and eye. She added that she felt better now that her son was showing signs of improvement and was under the care of medical experts. Sirawit’s education adviser Pattarajit Chotikapanit said later on Sunday that the operation would involve insertion of medical equipment into his nostrils to rectify the broken nose. Regarding his fractured eye socket, Pattarajit said he was still under observation and no surgery was needed at this point, as Sirawit’s eyesight was not affected. Pattarajit was advising Sirawit about his upcoming trip to India on further education. Meanwhile, the prime minister has instructed police to find the perpetrators of the attack on Sirawit, National Police chief Pol General Chakthip Chaijinda said on Sunday. Chakthip chaired a meeting of senior police officers investigating the case at the Royal Thai Police headquarters. He said “considerable progress” had been made in the investigation but added that the police needed more time to find the culprits. “The attack happened just two days ago," he said. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30371993 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-06-30 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thaiwrath Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, webfact said: "He had been under the close watch of authorities round the clock, so the fact that he got attacked twice recently raise suspicions that people in power may have been involved,” He will totally deny anything, and try to brush it under the carpet. What he usually does when challenged. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post londonthai Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 according to today's poll 94% don't believe that attackers ever will be found. surely the ruling party MP's will argue, that it was FFP who staged this to boost their popularity - that's what they are saying on social media 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sammieuk1 Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 How can you negatively effect the country's image when trying to kill the opposition by bashing his head appart in broad daylight with hired thugs its a common occurrence and now just a tradition and cultural experience ???? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 I find it interesting that lots of people seem to think the government is responsible for these attacks. Really? Let's not forget the guy who likes to pull strings in the background and who scarified already lots of his supporters so that he can get "his" money back. There are lots of possibilities who could be responsible for the attacks. And it's not necessary that all attacks are planned or ordered by the same people. 2 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 8 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I find it interesting that lots of people seem to think the government is responsible for these attacks. Really? Let's not forget the guy who likes to pull strings in the background and who scarified already lots of his supporters so that he can get "his" money back. There are lots of possibilities who could be responsible for the attacks. And it's not necessary that all attacks are planned or ordered by the same people. I find it pathetic that a few people harp on about false and/or exaggerated nonsense about Thaksin because they lack the personal courage to openly state their own beliefs without such a threadbare and idiotic prop. 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fforest1 Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 33 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I find it interesting that lots of people seem to think the government is responsible for these attacks. Really? Let's not forget the guy who likes to pull strings in the background and who scarified already lots of his supporters so that he can get "his" money back. There are lots of possibilities who could be responsible for the attacks. And it's not necessary that all attacks are planned or ordered by the same people. I find it pathetic that some people just cant call a spade a spade... 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puchaiyank Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 He had been under the close watch of authorities round the clock, so the fact that he got attacked twice recently raise suspicions that people in power may have been involved,” Wrong, the PM has already said he knows nothing...I am inclined to agree with him...???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, pornprong said: I find it pathetic that a few people harp on about false and/or exaggerated nonsense about Thaksin because they lack the personal courage to openly state their own beliefs without such a threadbare and idiotic prop. I lived in Thailand since before Thaksin started his political career. And I followed the news more or less daily since then. Thaksin divided Thailand like nobody else in the last 20 years, maybe longer. I don't know if he was the most corrupt ever politician. But it seems he tried everyday to get that title. If you think anything about Thaksin is exaggerated or nonsense then maybe you are the person who has no idea what he is talking about. 1 3 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post seminomadic Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, fforest1 said: I find it pathetic that some people just cant call a spade a spade... I find it pathetic that some people take what they're spoon fed. Perfectly reasonable what OneMoreFarang said. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post OneMoreFarang Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 1 hour ago, fforest1 said: I find it pathetic that some people just cant call a spade a spade... If there is a spade and you or several trustworthy people saw that spade then I agree. Let's call that spade a spade. But that is not what is happening here. History is full of false accusations and people believes A did something so they have to fight A. But sometimes A was not responsible and B wanted to make it look like A did it. I don't know what happened and happens here but I know there is more than one possible trouble initiator. I prefer to wait for evidence and facts before I make up my mind who is responsible. 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post monkfish Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I find it interesting that lots of people seem to think the government is responsible for these attacks. Really? Let's not forget the guy who likes to pull strings in the background and who scarified already lots of his supporters so that he can get "his" money back. There are lots of possibilities who could be responsible for the attacks. And it's not necessary that all attacks are planned or ordered by the same people. There have been many attacks on activists over the last 5 years some made it to the news but most didn't who do you think is responsible? The Bogeyman? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: I find it interesting that lots of people seem to think the government is responsible for these attacks. Really? Let's not forget the guy who likes to pull strings in the background and who scarified already lots of his supporters so that he can get "his" money back. There are lots of possibilities who could be responsible for the attacks. And it's not necessary that all attacks are planned or ordered by the same people. I know I wasn't there and even if I was I'm sure I would have no idea what was going on and I'm pretty sure it's going to stay that way so for me it will remain here say!Is that right?Here say?Or is it hearsay?I'll go with hearsay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 5 minutes ago, monkfish said: There have been many attacks on activists over the last 5 years some made it to the news but most didn't who do you think is responsible? The Bogeyman? It doesn't matter who I think is responsible. I don't know the evidence. And I would be very surprised if you know the facts in detail. Do you remember the so called peaceful demonstration for democracy in 2010? And do you know how i.e. the BBC reported about it? Reality on the street (I live in that area) was very different from what was reported in most media. The problem is most of the time we "know" only what other people publish about some events. Is it the truth? Who knows? A perfect example from far away is all the fake news in the USA. It seems everybody over there agrees that there is a lot of fake news. But the problem is that what some people "know" is true is considered fake news by others - and the other way around. I think sometimes we should admit that we have our suspicions who did what. But that's about it. Suspicions, not facts, not proof. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post pornprong Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: I lived in Thailand since before Thaksin started his political career. And I followed the news more or less daily since then. Thaksin divided Thailand like nobody else in the last 20 years, maybe longer. I don't know if he was the most corrupt ever politician. But it seems he tried everyday to get that title. If you think anything about Thaksin is exaggerated or nonsense then maybe you are the person who has no idea what he is talking about. Couldn't be more wrong. Thaksin, surely no angel, united Thailand more than it had ever been in the modern era. The Bangkok newspaper The Nation said that Thaksin "has won the strongest popular re-endorsement in Thai political history and is set to be the most powerful prime minister ever elected to lead the Kingdom." Thaksin is the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Thailand to complete a full four-year term in office and the first to win an absolute majority in the House in a relatively free election. The fact that Thaksin had managed to unite so many Thais is the very reason for the coups. Regardless of how long you've lived in Thailand, for it really is irrelevant, if you believe that the junta nonsense about Thaksin is anything other than exaggerations and propaganda then my bet is a year from now you'll be spouting off about how corrupt and evil Thanathorn is (and of course offering as verification the fact that you reside in Thailand.....). I will again post my two favourite links debunking the Junta's case against Thaksin. Read them, educate yourself. http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.com/ https://www.newmandala.org/a-response-to-vanina-sucharitkul/ Edited June 30, 2019 by pornprong 6 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted June 30, 2019 Share Posted June 30, 2019 34 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said: It doesn't matter who I think is responsible. I don't know the evidence. And I would be very surprised if you know the facts in detail. Do you remember the so called peaceful demonstration for democracy in 2010? And do you know how i.e. the BBC reported about it? Reality on the street (I live in that area) was very different from what was reported in most media. The problem is most of the time we "know" only what other people publish about some events. Is it the truth? Who knows? A perfect example from far away is all the fake news in the USA. It seems everybody over there agrees that there is a lot of fake news. But the problem is that what some people "know" is true is considered fake news by others - and the other way around. I think sometimes we should admit that we have our suspicions who did what. But that's about it. Suspicions, not facts, not proof. Yea we don't know the facts because they are being suppressed now my instinct tells me they must be covering something up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scorecard Posted June 30, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted June 30, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, Thaiwrath said: He will totally deny anything, and try to brush it under the carpet. What he usually does when challenged. Very possibly true but also possible when the opposition keep up some challenge to his answers and demand more answers / depth, then he will explode, showing his real character and showing how unsuitable he is for the PM job. Edited June 30, 2019 by scorecard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 12 hours ago, pornprong said: The fact that Thaksin had managed to unite so many Thais is the very reason for the coups. Yeah, sure. I guess you think Trump is uniting the USA and MAGA. You definition from uniting people seems to strange. No more questions. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoreFarang Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 12 hours ago, monkfish said: Yea we don't know the facts because they are being suppressed now my instinct tells me they must be covering something up. Yes, "they" always do something. But which "they" is it this time? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted July 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2019 5 hours ago, scorecard said: Very possibly true but also possible when the opposition keep up some challenge to his answers and demand more answers / depth, then he will explode, showing his real character and showing how unsuitable he is for the PM job. He has already shown how unsuitable he is for the job of PM by appointing himself PM.No matter what people say he is not a democratically elected PM. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hotchilli Posted July 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2019 17 hours ago, webfact said: He said “considerable progress” had been made in the investigation but added that the police needed more time to find the culprits. Word on the street is there was a mass exodus of Myanmarese men over the weekend. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisswe Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 17 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said: If there is a spade and you or several trustworthy people saw that spade then I agree. Let's call that spade a spade. But that is not what is happening here. History is full of false accusations and people believes A did something so they have to fight A. But sometimes A was not responsible and B wanted to make it look like A did it. I don't know what happened and happens here but I know there is more than one possible trouble initiator. I prefer to wait for evidence and facts before I make up my mind who is responsible. YOU WILL NEVER EVER GOT IT IN AN HONEST MANNER !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullcave Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I bet they are shaking in their military boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 22 hours ago, pornprong said: I find it pathetic that a few people harp on about false and/or exaggerated nonsense about Thaksin because they lack the personal courage to openly state their own beliefs without such a threadbare and idiotic prop. I find it pathetic that a few people keep defending the criminal Thaksin and his family by pretending they're totally innocent of everything, ever. And often claim red shirt attacks and murders were "false flag" operations. Don't remember these PTP hypocrites calling for relevant authorities to find and arrest those who through bombs and murdered innocent children which PTP politicians and their supporters cheered and applauded at a rally! Law and order, justice, needs to be applied to all. Until that happens, democracy never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 19 hours ago, pornprong said: Couldn't be more wrong. Thaksin, surely no angel, united Thailand more than it had ever been in the modern era. The Bangkok newspaper The Nation said that Thaksin "has won the strongest popular re-endorsement in Thai political history and is set to be the most powerful prime minister ever elected to lead the Kingdom." Thaksin is the first democratically elected Prime Minister of Thailand to complete a full four-year term in office and the first to win an absolute majority in the House in a relatively free election. The fact that Thaksin had managed to unite so many Thais is the very reason for the coups. Regardless of how long you've lived in Thailand, for it really is irrelevant, if you believe that the junta nonsense about Thaksin is anything other than exaggerations and propaganda then my bet is a year from now you'll be spouting off about how corrupt and evil Thanathorn is (and of course offering as verification the fact that you reside in Thailand.....). I will again post my two favourite links debunking the Junta's case against Thaksin. Read them, educate yourself. http://slimdogsworld.blogspot.com/ https://www.newmandala.org/a-response-to-vanina-sucharitkul/ Thaksin was as corrupt as Marcos, Hun Sen, Madura or any other wannabee ruler for life. He changed laws to suit himself, knowingly broke laws believing he was above the law, and thieved vast amounts from the Thai people. His political machine was clever, very clever. The indoctrination, the intimidation, the bribery, the tit bits thrown to the plebs. He fled his initial prison sentence because the bribe hadn't worked and he was concerned he wouldn't be able to bribe his way out of the more serious other charges on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 (edited) 19 hours ago, Baerboxer said: Thaksin was as corrupt as Marcos, Hun Sen, Madura or any other wannabee ruler for life. Was he though? Have you any evidence of anything Thaksin did to overthrow democracy? What was the section 44 equivalent whilst Thaksin was PM? Quote He changed laws to suit himself, knowingly broke laws believing he was above the law, and thieved vast amounts from the Thai people. Which laws did he change to suit himself? Which laws did he break? Any examples of instances where he thieved vast amounts? Quote His political machine was clever, very clever. The indoctrination, the intimidation, the bribery, the tit bits thrown to the plebs. Did he win the most votes in free and fair elections? Did he set up attitude adjustment camps? Did he have military officers openly surveilling citizens? Can Universal Healthcare really be considered a tidbit? Quote He fled his initial prison sentence because the bribe hadn't worked and he was concerned he wouldn't be able to bribe his way out of the more serious other charges on the list. What bribe? Do you have any evidence that Thaksin tried and failed to bribe the courts in the case you mention? What are the other "more serious charges" and if those charges have validity why were they not the first tried? Why have repeated non-Thaksin governments, over a 13 year period, failed to request Thaksin's extradition from western countries? Of all of the so far unsupported accusations you have made about Thaksin above, is not Prayuth more guilty on basically every charge? (the exceptions being the issues related to the Thai courts because the courts are of course, yellow through and through and give Prayuth a free pass) Edited July 2, 2019 by pornprong 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjaak327 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 19 hours ago, Baerboxer said: I find it pathetic that a few people keep defending the criminal Thaksin and his family by pretending they're totally innocent of everything, ever. And often claim red shirt attacks and murders were "false flag" operations. Don't remember these PTP hypocrites calling for relevant authorities to find and arrest those who through bombs and murdered innocent children which PTP politicians and their supporters cheered and applauded at a rally! Law and order, justice, needs to be applied to all. Until that happens, democracy never will. Oh there we go again. Man just give it up. The subject isn't the over 90 innocent citizens killed by the army in 2010, neither is the subject innocent chidren being bombed, the subject is Ja New. Why is to so hard for you to focus on the subject ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 They will have to grill him over a fire...the only way you would get the truth out of him,. regards Worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pornprong Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 20 hours ago, Baerboxer said: I find it pathetic that a few people keep defending the criminal Thaksin and his family by pretending they're totally innocent of everything, ever. And often claim red shirt attacks and murders were "false flag" operations. Don't remember these PTP hypocrites calling for relevant authorities to find and arrest those who through bombs and murdered innocent children which PTP politicians and their supporters cheered and applauded at a rally! Law and order, justice, needs to be applied to all. Until that happens, democracy never will. Try and answer something honestly for a change - what has been the main impediment to the above highlighted comment becoming reality, given the situation stretches back decades, well before Thaksin was ever on the scene? If you truly want the above to become reality why do you not support Thanathorn? He is the only politician to come out and state that this is his goal - equality under the law for all. “Here’s the point,” he said. “We believe that if you want to reconcile people…there is only one way. All the people have to be held accountable for what they did. Leaders of the red shirts, leaders of the yellow shirts, both of them have done things. “The criminal charges against Khun Thaksin [were laid] under the military government…We are proposing to…get him back. “Reopen the cases against him, and the judge has to be neutral…he has the right to a free and fair trial. And if the judgement [goes] against him, he has to accept it. “I think that is the only way out. Leaders of both camps have to be held accountable for what they did in the past.” -Thanathorn Clearly you don't really support justice. If you did, you would recognise that you have put the cart before the horse. First must come democracy, and then justice has a chance to follow. Back to the very first question... the answer is coups that install anti-democratic regimes. Your support of the junta contradicts your call for law and order being applied to all - you can have only one of these, and your choice is abundantly clear. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonthai Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 The house speaker warns a MP that he will be the next for violent attack, if he will demand justice for Ja New http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2019/07/04/watch-yourself-house-speaker-warns-mp-who-urged-justice-for-ja-new/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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