Could your Thai- GF live with that?

[swissie]

Could your GF live with that? You proclaiming:

- "At my advanced age, I have no more matrimonial urges anymore, but I will make sure that you will be the beneficiary of my earthly posessions upon my demise, should we still be "together" at this time". Also: "At my age I don't want any children anymore".

(All properly notarised and part of a legal-contract, well understood).
Would your Thai-GF (possibly with a certain age-difference) go for it?
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For me personnally, it would be the only way to go these days, involving anything resembling a long-term relationship.
If accepted, a good sighn, overall. If not "accepted", insisting on official matrimonial procedures, I would rather terminate the relationship instead of having to explain to the world that I preferred to ignore certain "red warning flags" beforehand.

If nothing else, it could serve as a "filter" when it comes to assess the "sincerity" of potential future "Thai-Wifey's" and their true materialistic intentions.
How would your Thai GF (as described above) react to such a proposition concerning your mutual future?
Better than coming back to TVF after a couple of years asking "for a good lawyer".
Me thinks.

[Tagged]

Always be worth more alive than dead. Old saying, 

[Lacessit]

I have explained to my Thai GF if we were to get married, my Centrelink pension would drop by $200 a fortnight. Yes, I know if Centrelink does not know I am married, they would not cut my pension; however, I prefer to stay legal.

I have also explained to my GF my assets in Thailand go to her. My assets in Australia go to my son. There are Thai and Australian wills to that effect.

She is quite happy with that, and wants me to live for as long as possible so the ATM stays open.

Children are not an issue because she is infertile.

Edited July 5, 2019 by Lacessit

[Swedenlars]

Could your GF live with that? You proclaiming:

- "At my advanced age, I have no more matrimonial urges anymore, but I will make sure that you will be the beneficiary of my earthly posessions upon my demise, should we still be "together" at this time". Also: "At my age I don't want any children anymore".
(All properly notarised and part of a legal-contract, well understood).
Would your Thai-GF (possibly with a certain age-difference) go for it?
------------
For me personnally, it would be the only way to go these days, involving anything resembling a long-term relationship.
If accepted, a good sighn, overall. If not "accepted", insisting on official matrimonial procedures, I would rather terminate the relationship instead of having to explain to the world that I preferred to ignore certain "red warning flags" beforehand.

If nothing else, it could serve as a "filter" when it comes to assess the "sincerity" of potential future "Thai-Wifey's" and their true materialistic intentions.
How would your Thai GF (as described above) react to such a proposition concerning your mutual future?
Better than coming back to TVF after a couple of years asking "for a good lawyer".
Me thinks.

Oh dear, I thought guys like you are slowly dying out. But reading
the above they are not. But I feel pity for you: 1. Buy her a house and a car/motorbike. 2. For <deleted>..
sake do not tell her she will get your money when you kick the bucket. 3. Give her a monthly allowance. 3. When she is demanding more money, kick her out and take a new one. Follow these steps. You don't have to. Up to you. But if you don't there might be some nasty surprises waiting for you.

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[RichardColeman]

1 hour ago, swissie said:

but I will make sure that you will be the beneficiary of my earthly posessions upon my demise, should we still be "together" at this time

Did your coffee taste funny this morning ? It might soon !

 

Joking aside, my wife WOULD agree to it, since its what we have pretty much now. My defined benefits pension is in her name should I die and that should be enough for her and our adopted daughter to live on. 

 

I think the point really is A. Is she the 'right' wife/g/f . And B. Is she mentally developed enough to understand what you are suggesting.

 

Personally I know my wife - even if i had not have married her - is the right one for me this time - believe me I made enough mistakes getting there

[Puchaiyank]

I support those who marry with expectation of a lifelong relationship with their Thai partner.  I also support those who have the right to chose to be in a consensual cohabitation relationship...both living arrangements have their pros and cons...no one forces a Thai woman into either one.  

 

Your opinion of my relationship with a Thai woman does not concern me.  Enjoy your chosen life...as I do mine...????

[ezzra]

Some relationships, as the one the OP is describing, should be viewed as nothing more than business arrangements and of a convenient to both sides, as such, a business like agreement should be inked as what you part in this as well as hers, what are you willing to give/pay/support in monetary and other assistance terms of in return for what on her part, this way there's no misunderstanding and ambiguities in the future... 

Edited July 5, 2019 by ezzra

[Gecko123]

2 hours ago, Swedenlars said:

kick her out

Kick her out of what? According to your sage advice the house belongs to her.












 

[Odysseus123]

2 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

I support those who marry with expectation of a lifelong relationship with their Thai partner.  I also support those who have the right to chose to be in a consensual cohabitation relationship...both living arrangements have their pros and cons...no one forces a Thai woman into either one.  

 

Your opinion of my relationship with a Thai woman does not concern me.  Enjoy your chosen life...as I do mine...????

Agreed.It is all in the "art of the deal" and there should be no ambiguities involved but a cool head and rational decision making.Multiple changes of partners may be all right for some-even preferable when younger-but not so good if you are getting old and physically incapacitated-or going ga-ga for that matter.

 

Whilst my relationship was more than a little wonky on occasion at least my Thai wife did step up to the plate when needed most and saved my life-for which I am very grateful-and then it was up to me to ensure that my part of the deal was also fulfilled.

 

I am doing that now.

[OneMoreFarang]

4 hours ago, swissie said:

"At my advanced age, I have no more matrimonial urges anymore, but I will make sure that you will be the beneficiary of my earthly posessions upon my demise, should we still be "together" at this time". Also: "At my age I don't want any children anymore".

(All properly notarised and part of a legal-contract, well understood).

What's the point of a legal contract?

If you love or at least like each other stay together. You can talk about things, but in my experience talking about your matrimonial urges does not make much sense. If she knows you since more than a couple of days she should have an idea about the strength of your urges.

And about the money: I think it's good enough that she knows that you take care of her now - if she behaves.

You both don't know what the future brings and in my experience few Thais think more than a month ahead.

And legal contracts make sense if they can be enforced. Which part of your contract should be enforced and by whom?

[Lacessit]

53 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

What's the point of a legal contract?

If you love or at least like each other stay together. You can talk about things, but in my experience talking about your matrimonial urges does not make much sense. If she knows you since more than a couple of days she should have an idea about the strength of your urges.

And about the money: I think it's good enough that she knows that you take care of her now - if she behaves.

You both don't know what the future brings and in my experience few Thais think more than a month ahead.

And legal contracts make sense if they can be enforced. Which part of your contract should be enforced and by whom?

Agree completely. Apart from the wills, there is nothing in writing connecting me and my GF. No joint accounts, no usufructs etc. I trust her, she trusts me and if it was to go pear-shaped I'd have no regrets financially.

[ivor bigun]

My wife and i married because we loved each other,so many losers on here think marrying a Thai woman is some sort of business arrangement,i feel so sorry for them as their lives must be so empty.
By the way we have been married over 20 yrs,and were together before that.

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[geronimo]

Mine would be over the moon, as it beats the hell out of the deal she currently has, which is to inherit my worldly debts and to make sure my earthly remains are cremated!!!

Edited July 7, 2019 by geronimo
big fingers

[wwest5829]

On 7/6/2019 at 3:48 AM, Lacessit said:

I have explained to my Thai GF if we were to get married, my Centrelink pension would drop by $200 a fortnight. Yes, I know if Centrelink does not know I am married, they would not cut my pension; however, I prefer to stay legal.

I have also explained to my GF my assets in Thailand go to her. My assets in Australia go to my son. There are Thai and Australian wills to that effect.

She is quite happy with that, and wants me to live for as long as possible so the ATM stays open.

Children are not an issue because she is infertile.

I have an American Will with American holdings going to my two Sons. My approach here in Thailand has always been that what finances I bring to Thailand will remain in Thailand. Like “swissie” I have a Thai Will which will leave all Thailand holdings to the Thai girl taking care of me at the end. The marriage certificate has come up and after consideration, I said I could do this with an attached pre-nup. As we have currently been together of just over two years, I plan on a bit more “seasoning” of the relationship first. Having the right, traditional Thai girl is wonderful in Thailand. Having the wrong girl anywhere ... as many of us have experienced is hell.... There is no continuation of any finances after my death.

Edited July 8, 2019 by wwest5829

[remorhaz]

As other posters have said if you tell her that she is in your will you can probably guarantee that someday soon they'll be an "accident" in the moobahn and you will experience 'bad fortune'.  No there won't be any sort of real investigation, people cut off their own heads and drag them 60 meters to a nearby recycle bin all the time.  Falangs are good at this - we've all seen it with chickens after all right?  

 

The information you need to feed your girl is that while your *alive* she gets xxx baht per month plus in weaker moments, extra compensation for the sudden and unexpected water buffalo emergencies that always plague Isaan.  That's it.  While you're alive you're valuable if dead nothing... the money stops.  This and only this keeps you alive and your organs off the black market.  All the stuff about marital relations or what not is bollux anyway as she'll be keeping at least one Thai boyfriend on the side.  She won't care about not sleeping with you so don't worry about that.  

[atyclb]

On 7/6/2019 at 3:29 AM, Tagged said:

Always be worth more alive than dead. Old saying, 

 

 

wanted dead or alive

 

 

[wgdanson]

On 7/6/2019 at 3:48 AM, Lacessit said:

I have explained to my Thai GF if we were to get married, my Centrelink pension would drop by $200 a fortnight. Yes, I know if Centrelink does not know I am married, they would not cut my pension; however, I prefer to stay legal.

I have also explained to my GF my assets in Thailand go to her. My assets in Australia go to my son. There are Thai and Australian wills to that effect.

She is quite happy with that, and wants me to live for as long as possible so the ATM stays open.

Children are not an issue because she is infertile.

Exactly the same here, except my boys are in UK. Thai assets are the car & house, both already in her name and she's the one who goes to the bank every week with MY ATM card/PIN. No worries.

[473geo]

Contacts, agreements.....

comfort for a man who considers he may not work hard enough to keep his wife interested and happy, or his selection process has previously shown considerable painful failure, or maybe he considers his own financial worth more important than a lifelong partnership

 

'mai pen rai, Up to you' as the Thai say, and on this occasion I feel they are correct

 

 

[Pilotman]

On 7/7/2019 at 7:18 AM, ivor bigun said:

My wife and i married because we loved each other,so many losers on here think marrying a Thai woman is some sort of business arrangement,i feel so sorry for them as their lives must be so empty.
By the way we have been married over 20 yrs,and were together before that.

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me too, married 22 years now. assets in Thailand go to my wife as sole beneficiary, assets in the UK are divided between the kids, who all live there, wife gets half of my pension until she dies. everyone happy and if they are not, tough, that's the deal 

[dotpoom]

Why on earth would she not go for it...I'd be up for that myself if she isn't ?

PS, only read half way down so hope I'm not signing up for funny stuff.

[murraynz]

On 7/7/2019 at 10:18 AM, ivor bigun said:

My wife and i married because we loved each other,so many losers on here think marrying a Thai woman is some sort of business arrangement,i feel so sorry for them as their lives must be so empty.
By the way we have been married over 20 yrs,and were together before that.

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there are always the odd exceptions, good luck to you..

personally, i think those that have the need to get married, are 'losers'...

 

[ivor bigun]

there are always the odd exceptions, good luck to you..
personally, i think those that have the need to get married, are 'losers'...
 

I have no problem with anyone who does not want to marry,i have been married when younger and divorced then lived with a girl for 12 yrs ,the losers are the ones who think Thai women only marry so they can rip a guy off.

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[StevieAus]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Why on earth would she not go for it...I'd be up for that myself if she isn't ?

PS, only read half way down so hope I'm not signing up for funny stuff.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, enjoy the funny stuff !!

[Parsve]

In what century was you born? All that come in my mind is that you should have been in the graveyard at least 50 years ago.

[1FinickyOne]

Why not just hire a maid or a nurse? 

[1FinickyOne]

1 hour ago, murraynz said:

i think those that have the need to get married, are 'losers'...

funny - people's needs/wants vary - I accept that - - but usually I have observed that people who need to call other people "losers" -well, lets just say they are not often the big winners at the table... 

 

surely, you are the exception... 

[DJ54]

Sir my GF would wink wink... then if you try to enforce the rules

they cart you off to the mental hospital for a check....

[myjawe]

3 hours ago, murraynz said:

there are always the odd exceptions, good luck to you..

personally, i think those that have the need to get married, are 'losers'...

 

Totally agree ! I could have been married 100 times because I shagged more beautiful and educated women than anybody could dream of. But why ? If you don't need them for visa or business purpose, what any other reason can you find to marry them ?! I will get a nurse when I will be old enough and will need one to change my diapers...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 8, 2019 by myjawe

[rumak]

25 minutes ago, myjawe said:

Totally agree ! I could have been married 100 times because I shagged more beautiful and educated women than anybody could dream of. But why ? If you don't need them for visa or business purpose, what any other reason can you find to marry them ?! I will get a nurse when I will be old enough and will need one to change my diapers...

 

 

 

 

 

photos please

[Traubert]

Why get married?

 

Why not just build a wall around yourself and slowly pump out the air?