Popular Post simple1 Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sujo said: He is president. Public office. Its open season. In the meantime trump has confirmed the Ambassador's criticism of him being thin skinned, fragile ego and so on by using Twitter to say he wants the guy fired, will not deal with him etc etc, doubled down on criticism of May. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-twitter-brexit-theresa-may-queen-ambassador-us-uk-kim-darroch-a8996066.html 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TGIR said: Per usual, not a dissenting voice in the crowd, except maybe mine. Maybe all you poor souls on this forum who have nothing better to do than smash Trump daily could entertain us with some stories of your exploits and successes in life. Surely they would make Trump pale by comparison. I know I would be thrilled to know more about you all. It's not a dissenting voice you provide, just an incoherent and illogical puerile rant that one might expect of a five year old - "Well, what have you done that makes you so special "...etc etc ad nauseam. Returning to the subject, the source of the leak may be easier to detect than some think.A previous Ambassador points out - "The more sensitive stuff — in other words, the ambassador's personal judgment about the longevity of the Trump administration — would have been written as a letter addressed to an individual, copied to a small number of other individuals, probably not more than half a dozen, perhaps 10 or 12. It ought not to be too difficult for a leak inquiry to discover who had that, and who has shared it with other unauthorised people." 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stevenl Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Bundooman said: Exactly! Who the hell is this jumped up, unqualified nothing who is only there just because her father wants to Gafurgle her! My government should just ignore her as they all did at the G20 Conference. And apart from anything else - the UK Ambassador just spoke the truth! Everything he said was correct. Truth or not doesn't matter, he only gave, confidentially, his personal opinion. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TGIR said: Per usual, not a dissenting voice in the crowd, except maybe mine. Maybe all you poor souls on this forum who have nothing better to do than smash Trump daily could entertain us with some stories of your exploits and successes in life. Surely they would make Trump pale by comparison. I know I would be thrilled to know more about you all. Well since you brought it up, I'll have to admit that I didn't get millions from my daddy, squander it on bad business deals to the tune of 4 bankruptcies, con the life savings out of ordinary people, constantly stiff contractors working for me, hire illegals on a routine basis, cheat on my wife(s) repeatedly, dodge military service with a fake deferment, sexually assault countless women, and constantly lie my ass off about all things big and small. Oh, I also didn't win a Presidential election with the help of the Russians. So yea, my life has been rather uneventful compared to your boy Trump. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 hours ago, legend49 said: Why does he have to apologize to Ivanka???? Coz she IS the incompetent 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Well since you brought it up, I'll have to admit that I didn't get millions from my daddy, squander it on bad business deals to the tune of 4 bankruptcies, con the life savings out of ordinary people, constantly stiff contractors working for me, hire illegals on a routine basis, cheat on my wife(s) repeatedly, dodge military service with a fake deferment, sexually assault countless women, and constantly lie my ass off about all things big and small. Oh, I also didn't win a Presidential election with the help of the Russians. So yea, my life has been rather uneventful compared to your boy Trump. You forgot to mention the University, ripping students off and fake degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bundooman Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 hours ago, jesimps said: Quote “Malicious leaks of this nature ... can actually lead to a damage to that relationship, which can therefore affect our wider security interest.” Unquote It isn't the leak that's the problem, it's the fact that our ambassador actually said it. If true, then fire Darroch (who's position is now untenable), then find out who leaked it, in that order. The leaker must've had clearance up to at least "Secret" to have had access to that report. Jesus! Are you for real? Do you realise that is what Ambassadors do? They inform their Governments about the things they need to know! It's not the Ambassador - it's the cretin who leaked it that's the problem. What if that had been a report that was vital to the UK? (Well, actually it was, if they didn't already know that)! And not only that - the guy was telling the truth! Great that the world can see just how Mr. Trump conducts the business of his country ............ Badly! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ballpoint Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 Rather amusing to see the "Trump speaks his mind, no matter how it makes people feel" brigade get so upset over someone speaking the truth about Trump. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamabob Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Messages such as these would normally be passed by word of mouth. One must query the ambassador's motives. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salerno Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: Messages such as these would normally be passed by word of mouth. In what century? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecoolfrog Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 10 hours ago, jesimps said: Quote “Malicious leaks of this nature ... can actually lead to a damage to that relationship, which can therefore affect our wider security interest.” Unquote It isn't the leak that's the problem, it's the fact that our ambassador actually said it. If true, then fire Darroch (who's position is now untenable), then find out who leaked it, in that order. The leaker must've had clearance up to at least "Secret" to have had access to that report. Why fire somebody for being honest ? I know Trump lies constantly but that does not mean its obligatory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 11 hours ago, legend49 said: Why does he have to apologize to Ivanka???? I second that. What official position does she hold ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Well, if she apologizes for that awful dress....ok then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 6:16 PM, snoop1130 said: a leak of confidential memos in which the UK ambassador describes the U.S. administration as “dysfunctional” and “inept”. There's probably an irony in all these leaked UK Ambassador's memos in that the U.S. intelligence agencies most likely have copies as well. But given the nature of the UK Ambassadore's description of Trump and his administration, the U.S. intelligence agencies would withhold the content of those memos from the White House. Trump tends to punish the messenger of bad tidings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted July 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2019 He insults people all the time, both on twitter and verbally in press conferences, but when the truth is told about him, he shows how thinned skinned he actually is. He acts like a spoiled entitled teenager, no dignity or emotional intelligence. The Ambassador did not say anything that was not already known worldwide. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebyrd Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) So Fox will apologise for a very experienced diplomat telling the truth about a man with zero political experience? ???? Edited July 10, 2019 by freebyrd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGIR Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 12:44 AM, jayboy said: It's not a dissenting voice you provide, just an incoherent and illogical puerile rant that one might expect of a five year old - "Well, what have you done that makes you so special "...etc etc ad nauseam. You seem to be a first class <deleted>.........ad nauseam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 1:34 PM, TGIR said: Per usual, not a dissenting voice in the crowd, except maybe mine. Maybe all you poor souls on this forum who have nothing better to do than smash Trump daily could entertain us with some stories of your exploits and successes in life. Surely they would make Trump pale by comparison. I know I would be thrilled to know more about you all. Well, I confess, that I didn't have the foresight to have a daddy rich enough to bail me out of bankruptcy 4 times. My bad. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 The deplorables like trump because he tells it as it is. But anyone else doing that. Not so much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jayboy Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, TGIR said: You seem to be a first class <deleted>.........ad nauseam. I made the point that Trump responded to the leaked reports like an overgrown child, unable to articulate his views like an educated adult - just a tantrum of abuse. I note you follow a similar process. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evadgib Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 HMA's resignation has just been announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 hours ago, evadgib said: HMA's resignation has just been announced. Hope he gets another post. One where the government is headed by a competent person. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neeray Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 4:16 AM, Berkshire said: Well since you brought it up, I'll have to admit that I didn't get millions from my daddy, squander it on bad business deals to the tune of 4 bankruptcies, con the life savings out of ordinary people, constantly stiff contractors working for me, hire illegals on a routine basis, cheat on my wife(s) repeatedly, dodge military service with a fake deferment, sexually assault countless women, and constantly lie my ass off about all things big and small. Oh, I also didn't win a Presidential election with the help of the Russians. So yea, my life has been rather uneventful compared to your boy Trump. Above nominated by me, POST of the THREAD. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Basil B Posted July 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 2:24 AM, dick dasterdly said: Presumably darroch didn't have the sense to 'say it', in private, to those to whom he was reporting - he put it in writing. An extremely bad idea I would have thought, as emails/letters/memos are leaked so frequently. But I agree with the gist of your post. You mean every time he has to make a report he has to hope on a plane to London. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Hope he gets another post. One where the government is headed by a competent person. Most other posts would be a demotion... He has done 44 years service so should be due his pension soon anyway, and he sure won't go hungry, he could dine out every night as a guest speaker, but there again a peer speaking on Radio4 yesterday said he hoped Sir Kim would be joining them, I am sure the next POTUS will be making a personal apology to Sir Kim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Basil B said: Most other posts would be a demotion... He has done 44 years service so should be due his pension soon anyway, and he sure won't go hungry, he could dine out every night as a guest speaker, but there again a peer speaking on Radio4 yesterday said he hoped Sir Kim would be joining them, I am sure the next POTUS will be making a personal apology to Sir Kim... I hope he elevated to "Lord Darroch of Truth", and appointed to the House of Lords. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 The old Fox just wants another crack at the henhouse, to see if he can maybe get some bragging rights for the Members bar at HMHP. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Basil B said: You mean every time he has to make a report he has to hope on a plane to London. Hope on a plane? I didn't know the 737 Max was back in service... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Small Joke Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 On 7/9/2019 at 8:41 AM, jayboy said: You are talking rubbish.There is no blame to be attached to the Ambassador whatsoever - he was simply doing his job.The serious offense is the leak of secret information and this needs to be ruthlessly investigated with severe consequences for the culprits. I see that you and other geniuses on this thread have not bothered to read Liam Fox's comments with care.He was not apologizing for the Ambassador's comments but rather for the malicious leaking. Jayboy, surely by now you should know anyone who clings to, or supports, apologizes for, attacks critics of, Trump seem incapable of grasping basic high school concepts of, well, any slightly nuanced shit whatsoever! Ironically, they'll latch onto absurd claims as gospel truth -if Trump says it. He's lied thousands of times, and most of the facts to prove it, existed BEFORE he was POTUS. It matters not. Their minds are made up and they'll follow him into the mouth of hell, like the poor fools in Hitler's Berlin bunker 1945.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautifulthailand99 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 8 hours ago, neeray said: Above nominated by me, POST of the THREAD. Thanked and seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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