Popular Post soalbundy Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 9 hours ago, wilailuk said: Hospitable to mafia members? Getoutahere! It's never good to show a negative honest opinion. Many, many years ago a friend of mine was in the magistrates court shortly before christmas for a driving offence, he was fined 20 pounds, "what"! he exploded, "I can't afford my own christmas dinner let alone yours", he was fined another 20 pounds for contempt of court. Always play nicely, it doesn't hurt. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Dwyer Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Quote: "They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing" What about your rights?, civil rights, rights to privacy and any other rights some of the whiners love to spout on about?... surely those rights are missing !!! You can't just roll over like this, you have to make life difficult for yourself so you can have a problem and complain how they [Thai's] hate us, or want to treat us like criminals etc... (yes, that was sarcasm btw)Yup, I like to throw these little curve balls in at the end of a post every now and then to see if people actually read right to the end !!Actually I didn’t mind too much, the guys were only doing as they were told, not a bad number for them, driving round to see how farang folk live their lives and an opportunity to case the joint !!................oops there I go again !! [emoji51] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kerryd Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 Lol at all the foreigners in foreign countries that think they have "rights" ! You only have the "rights" that the local (national) gov't gives you. You don't get to make up "rights" or import them from your home country (despite what so many seem to think). It could be that Immigration has decided to start "auditing" some of the long-stay expats to see if what they put on their forms matches reality. As we already know (quite well), many expats are somewhat less than honest about their situation than they hope everyone else believes. Perhaps Immigration is starting to actually verify that as a part of the recent changes (in rules and attitudes). I have no problem if they want to come to my place. I'd welcome the opportunity for a little "one-on-one" time to ask them some questions. If I was invited out for lunch I'd probably go if I didn't have anything else planned. Most times when I go somewhere with my Thai friends we all split the bill so I would expect the same in that situation. I highly doubt they'd start sending additional Immigration officers to your home every couple of weeks to check you out again (and try to score a free lunch). The truth of the matter is - you are no where near as important to Immigration as you may like to think. I'm sure they have a lot better things to do than try to scrounge free lunches of fat old expats that can barely afford a bowl of Som Tam and a small Leo once a day. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumbo Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Did my retirement extension last September ( Ayutthaya IO ), they booked a house visit for 2 weeks later. They called various times to change the date and the time, plus when they got lost ( despite the address drawing done on extension !! ). They appeared , took photos, looked at my passport and asked me to sign some paper ( apparently just a checklist acknowledging their visit). They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing . Me too, same IO, but as I work in Bangkok on my Non O they need to come at fixed time and date and they have no issue with that. But they always come within a few days after my application as the findings have to be sent together with application to Bangkok immigration, might be because I am extending on income... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 hours ago, lamyai3 said: Agree - who'd want to go out to lunch with people who are basically out to extort? I'd want to keep my dealings with them as professional and minimal as possible. Since we are talking about Thai Immigration, I fail to see where anything professional needs to be observed. Minimal yes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimmyyy Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 Immigration shows up at my house every year about 2 weeks after renewal. Stay about 10 minutes, perhaps snack a bit and off they go, same guys every year. Its harmless. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I sometimes wonder if I'm living in the same country. My local immigration are sticklers for rules, they are officious and rude on occasions, but they never suggest additional payments, receipts are given, they conduct themselves in a proper manner. The guy who turned up at my door was a regular presentable youngish guy, not the usual black skinned ugly BiB scrounger stinking of smoke and stale whisky. After he left, I felt a little unhappy that he had the right to take pictures in my bedroom, but on the whole he was alright, did his papers while sitting at the table talking to the missus. Im not naive enough to think that all that money isn't being diverted around the office and extra little sweeteners aren't coming from factory owners and teacher agencies, but for regular visa holders, they don't bother us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidst01 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 15 hours ago, dbrenn said: I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable. yes exactly. better to have 'friends' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, ukrules said: Yeah sure - they will be back every year from here on in without fail... If I remember correctly, you're on an Elite Visa? I'm guessing you did this because you preferred to spend half a million than to spend a few Baht on the occasional modest lunch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, murraynz said: and thai immigration, also expect us to wear long trousers etc , to show respect.. why should we respect scum, bludgers, such as these people.. they get PAID to do a job---as always THEY should be showing the customer respect.. You'll be back home before you know it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, dbrenn said: If I remember correctly, you're on an Elite Visa? I'm guessing you did this because you preferred to spend half a million than to spend a few Baht on the occasional modest lunch? I have a mate with a lifetime Elite visa. he says his accountant advised him to get one as he could claim it on taxes. And before anyone chips in! Yes they did, the first 3000 or so. And he can sell it, apparently. Immigration knocked on out door one day. They came to see the guy next door but no one was home. We asked them if they would like to sit and wait. Gave them each a bottle of water. Would they like to look at my passport/visa/work permit? "No thank you" Then they said thank you and left. Never came back! Edited July 10, 2019 by VocalNeal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacko45k Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 11 hours ago, elliss said: Sadly the wife was away, in the village, again . Perhaps for the best, you never know what these guys might expect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spornb Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 Eleven yrs here, never the slightest problem with immigration, in the evenings occasionally we see some of them at same restaurant as we are at, we always buy them quite a few drinks and are happy to do so, police call us maybe once a year to check all OK and we always ask them for a few beers at our house These people have jobs to do not always pleasant and it is good to say thank you in a small way, the cost is minimal, I do the same in my home country What goes around comes around 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anagami Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Corrupt Thai officials leeching off farangs? UNTHINKABLE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caldera Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, murraynz said: and thai immigration, also expect us to wear long trousers etc , to show respect.. I do dress respectfully whenever I visit immigration. I also have politeness in my heart when I arrive there - I just want to get things done smoothly and as long as they don't ruin it, I will be top of the "polite and soft-spoken" class throughout. I would do the same when visiting a government office in my home country or anywhere else in the world. I extend the same basic courtesy to Thai officials, that just comes naturally to me. Buying lunch or booze for government officials, on the other hand, is not something I've ever done or would ever consider doing. If that ever becomes a problem, I will change countries, not my attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaifriends Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Well this is your obligation to verify address and there nothing important about it to discuss much. One can see the false paperwork, overstay and crimes by all origin of foreigners so now it can be difficult to extend. Indeed its more difficult then a few years back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 14 hours ago, Caldera said: Maybe. But there are people who find the thought of being hospitable to thugs revolting. True. Some of the thugs can be revolting.???? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post whiteman Posted July 10, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just to put matters right for the ones that did not understand my message. It was this year 2019 for the first time ever they visited after 15 years hence why I commented. It was in Chonbury Sri Racha I did not go to lunch for I had all ready eaten. And yes it was Immagration they had badgers and the car they drove had immagration on it so not cops They were a different group than the ones that visited my neighbour the ones that visited him stayed for 2 hours in his house drinking coffee and snacking and on the way out asked for a full bottle of his wine his wife said no. And the following year a totally different group visited them. And this time in and out in 15 mins. The ones that visted me did not come in our house scared of our dogs that were inside ???? So sat in the outside Thai kitchen. I hope this clarifies all you questions 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post connda Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 My dogs have a habit of convincing strangers that they really don't want to loiter on the premise. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThaiBunny Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, whiteman said: it was Immagration they had badgers Black and white uniforms? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteman Posted July 10, 2019 Author Share Posted July 10, 2019 Immagration printed front and back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just now, connda said: My dogs have a habit of convincing strangers that they really don't want to loiter on the premise. I read a rather amusing anecdote recently about a visit by Putin to Queen Elizabeth. Someone present had a dog that started barking the moment Putin arrived and wouldn't stop. When its owner apologised to the Queen she replied along the lines of how clever dogs can be at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puck2 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 19 hours ago, dbrenn said: I would have bought them lunch. It pays off in the long run to be hospitable. .... including some diarrheal pathogen. Maybe I would call the police for checking if real immigration officers. But Mae Hong Son Immigration officers do a honest job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said: Did my retirement extension last September ( Ayutthaya IO ), they booked a house visit for 2 weeks later. They called various times to change the date and the time, plus when they got lost ( despite the address drawing done on extension !! ). They appeared , took photos, looked at my passport and asked me to sign some paper ( apparently just a checklist acknowledging their visit). They accepted water and left shortly, all very businesslike and I haven’t noticed anything missing . Did you expect anything to be missing? They would have been disappointed that their trousers were not a bit thicker around the pocket area. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, Kerryd said: Lol at all the foreigners in foreign countries that think they have "rights" ! You only have the "rights" that the local (national) gov't gives you. You don't get to make up "rights" or import them from your home country (despite what so many seem to think). It could be that Immigration has decided to start "auditing" some of the long-stay expats to see if what they put on their forms matches reality. As we already know (quite well), many expats are somewhat less than honest about their situation than they hope everyone else believes. Perhaps Immigration is starting to actually verify that as a part of the recent changes (in rules and attitudes). I have no problem if they want to come to my place. I'd welcome the opportunity for a little "one-on-one" time to ask them some questions. If I was invited out for lunch I'd probably go if I didn't have anything else planned. Most times when I go somewhere with my Thai friends we all split the bill so I would expect the same in that situation. I highly doubt they'd start sending additional Immigration officers to your home every couple of weeks to check you out again (and try to score a free lunch). The truth of the matter is - you are no where near as important to Immigration as you may like to think. I'm sure they have a lot better things to do than try to scrounge free lunches of fat old expats that can barely afford a bowl of Som Tam and a small Leo once a day. "we all split the bill so I would expect the same in that situation." and pigs might fly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, recom273 said: I sometimes wonder if I'm living in the same country. My local immigration are sticklers for rules, they are officious and rude on occasions, but they never suggest additional payments, receipts are given, they conduct themselves in a proper manner. The guy who turned up at my door was a regular presentable youngish guy, not the usual black skinned ugly BiB scrounger stinking of smoke and stale whisky. After he left, I felt a little unhappy that he had the right to take pictures in my bedroom, but on the whole he was alright, did his papers while sitting at the table talking to the missus. Im not naive enough to think that all that money isn't being diverted around the office and extra little sweeteners aren't coming from factory owners and teacher agencies, but for regular visa holders, they don't bother us. "they are officious and rude on occasions," and you call that conducting themselves in a proper manner?? If they came to my house and started being officious and rude, they would soon know about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcusarelus Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, possum1931 said: "they are officious and rude on occasions," and you call that conducting themselves in a proper manner?? If they came to my house and started being officious and rude, they would soon know about it. What would you do? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 6 hours ago, dbrenn said: It's simply common sense to develop working relationships and show kindness to those around us, including (and especially) those upon whom we depend. I take my customers to lunch for the same reason, and I'll let you into a secret: they keep buying from me. And I'll tell you another thing - I never had a visa or extension of stay refused, and was eventually granted PR and then Thai citizenship. Taking people out to a modest lunch isn't corruption - it's hospitality. It's not surprising that so many people here have problems with immigration, then come whining and complaining about hos 'they hate us' - everyone hates an inhospitable skinflint, and immigration officers are no different. Antagonising those upon whom you depend for the sake of a modest lunch is just daft, really, as it invites malice and future trouble that could wreck your life. If any IOs come to my house I will be nice to them and show them respect, but if they start being officious and rude as was mentioned in another post, they will be told to watch their tone of voice or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post marcusarelus Posted July 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, possum1931 said: If any IOs come to my house I will be nice to them and show them respect, but if they start being officious and rude as was mentioned in another post, they will be told to watch their tone of voice or similar. I'm sure that would have them very afraid and especially courteous for your next extension. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoshowJones Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Caldera said: I do dress respectfully whenever I visit immigration. I also have politeness in my heart when I arrive there - I just want to get things done smoothly and as long as they don't ruin it, I will be top of the "polite and soft-spoken" class throughout. I would do the same when visiting a government office in my home country or anywhere else in the world. I extend the same basic courtesy to Thai officials, that just comes naturally to me. Buying lunch or booze for government officials, on the other hand, is not something I've ever done or would ever consider doing. If that ever becomes a problem, I will change countries, not my attitude. I won't change my country as I have a good life here with my wife and friends, and neither will I change my attitude no matter what country I am in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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