British far-right activist jailed for contempt of court

[simple1]

5 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 I think it is very obvious that I have fallen for none of Yaxley-Lennon's lies.

 

How about you?

 

Yes, I see that Orton Road quoted my post while I was editing it. Not after I had quoted it, as he did mine.

IMO don't bother with the member, just gives him another opportunity to post hatred. He has shown his info sources as Breitbart, an extremist anti Muslim "Christian" platform etc

[7by7]

10 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

The haddith of bukkari is kept next to the Quran and is accepted bu about 95% of Muslims worldwide as being authentic, you have another opinion which is not theirs, or mine. Rape of those possessed by the hand (captives) is clearly condoned in the Quran unless you want to play on words as usual. Mohammad is seen as the perfect man there fore having sex with slaves and a nie year old (according to scripture) is bound to influence the people who idolize him and his example of how to live.

 Then explain why the age of consent in most Muslim countries is at least the same as the UK, 16, and in many higher.

 

Explain why sex outside of marriage is illegal in many Muslim countries.

 

Explain why rape is illegal in all Muslim countries.

 

Explain why the Koran says that Muslims must obey the laws of the land in which they live.

 

Explain why Muslim religious leaders, spokespeople, ordinary Muslims in the UK have condemned these men and their crimes.

 

 

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[transam]

7 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Then explain why the age of consent in most Muslim countries is at least the same as the UK, 16, and in many higher.

 

Explain why sex outside of marriage is illegal in many Muslim countries.

 

Explain why rape is illegal in all Muslim countries.

 

Explain why the Koran says that Muslims must obey the laws of the land in which they live.

 

Explain why Muslim religious leaders, spokespeople, ordinary Muslims in the UK have condemned these men and their crimes.

 

 

Because as time has gone by they know most of what they follow is pre-dark ages but must tread very carefully because of those who don't or cannot accept daftness....Even Christianity had it's day, Henry VIII comes to mind..

[Orton Rd]

16 minutes ago, 7by7 said:

 Then explain why the age of consent in most Muslim countries is at least the same as the UK, 16, and in many higher.

 

Explain why sex outside of marriage is illegal in many Muslim countries.

 

Explain why rape is illegal in all Muslim countries.

 

Explain why the Koran says that Muslims must obey the laws of the land in which they live.

 

Explain why Muslim religious leaders, spokespeople, ordinary Muslims in the UK have condemned these men and their crimes.

 

 

Explain why the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion when Islam persecutes and even outlaws other faiths

 

Explain why Islam claims to be peaceful yet the Quran has 105 verses advocating violence

 

Explain why Islam claims equality for women yet a man can have 4 wives while a woman only one and her word is worth half that of a man and wife beating is allowed in the Quran

 

Explain why if it is untrue Islam instructs Muslims not to befriend unbelievers, why they find it so hard to integrate when other faiths, like HIndu and Sikhs have no problem doing so

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Explain why the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion when Islam persecutes and even outlaws other faiths

 

Explain why Islam claims to be peaceful yet the Quran has 105 verses advocating violence

 

Explain why Islam claims equality for women yet a man can have 4 wives while a woman only one and her word is worth half that of a man and wife beating is allowed in the Quran

 

Explain why if it is untrue Islam instructs Muslims not to befriend unbelievers, why they find it so hard to integrate when other faiths, like HIndu and Sikhs have no problem doing so

He cannot explain because all his religious friends are thoroughly splendid fellows....

[joecoolfrog]

57 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Never mind he will be out in a few weeks and can continue his brave campaign against rape gangs, sharia law, mass immigration, jihad being taught in the UK, hate preachers, fgm and 'honor' killings, all of which are dominated by one section of society. They will not shut him up for speaking the truth. People accuse him of being a racist and a white supremacist but can never come up with any real evidence, the man is a true patriot although that might be a crime as well before too long.

You fail to refute anything that has been factually stated , just plough on with your fingers in your ears , Tommy loves your sort , nice earner for him!

[joecoolfrog]

I see we have now progressed to Koran bashing , not sure what that has to do with somebody being prosecuted for contempt of court.

Frankly anybody can use any religious text to vilify others or justify theselves , its happened throughout our history.

I distrust all religions , thinking one is better than another is as ridiculous as thinking skin colour defines a person ,fortunately the UK has secular law .

Edited July 14, 2019 by joecoolfrog

[HansumFarang]

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Edited July 14, 2019 by HansumFarang
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[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

Explain why the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion when Islam persecutes and even outlaws other faiths

 

Explain why Islam claims to be peaceful yet the Quran has 105 verses advocating violence

 

Explain why Islam claims equality for women yet a man can have 4 wives while a woman only one and her word is worth half that of a man and wife beating is allowed in the Quran

 

Explain why if it is untrue Islam instructs Muslims not to befriend unbelievers, why they find it so hard to integrate when other faiths, like HIndu and Sikhs have no problem doing so

Islam does not outlaw other faiths. 

 

A bit like the bible then.

 

A man can have 4 wives but only if the first wife agrees and only if he can prove he can financially care for all. Also the wives must also agree to marry him. He cant just chose a woman. Wife beating or any beating is illegal.

 

Islam does not instruct. I have no problem with muslims who I socialise with who havent beheaded me for being a non believer, but instead welcome me.

 

And yet all of this is off topic. This is about TR being a bigotted scum who broke the law. I note he only does that for muslims.

[Orton Rd]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Islam does not outlaw other faiths. 

 

A bit like the bible then.

 

A man can have 4 wives but only if the first wife agrees and only if he can prove he can financially care for all. Also the wives must also agree to marry him. He cant just chose a woman. Wife beating or any beating is illegal.

 

Islam does not instruct. I have no problem with muslims who I socialise with who havent beheaded me for being a non believer, but instead welcome me.

 

And yet all of this is off topic. This is about TR being a bigotted scum who broke the law. I note he only does that for muslims.

Christianity is not tolerated in Saudi Arabia, and possession of a bible is a criminal offence. Tommy Robinson is not bigoted at all, he is anti a retrograde ideology and has Muslim and Sikh friends and supporters, how many have you got?

[Sujo]

21 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Christianity is not tolerated in Saudi Arabia, and possession of a bible is a criminal offence. Tommy Robinson is not bigoted at all, he is anti a retrograde ideology and has Muslim and Sikh friends and supporters, how many have you got?

So because something is not allowed in SA you consider that to be all islam? How daft.

 

He is bigotted because he only goes after muslims, he does not share the same passion when his friends are charged with the same crimes. 

 

I have Hundreds of muslim friends due to the nature of my work and the country I live in. Just normal people trying to get on with life.

[nontabury]

On 7/12/2019 at 11:33 PM, simple1 said:

Non Muslim girls as well as Muslim heritage girls were sexually abused as clearly identified in the Rotherham Report to which you constantly refer. One could assume you are deliberately misrepresenting facts. However, just in case you're not, but are suffering from loss of memory.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal#British_Asian

 

 

 

You seem to be insinuating that in regards to abuse by Pakistani Muslims in Rotherham, that Muslim girls were also abused, this is incorrect.

 Regarding all the other towns and cities that have suffered at the hands of these Muslim gangs, I do not know 100%. However I do notice that this section from your post includes a report by the U.K. Muslim women’s network, that mentioned that British Asian girls has been involved, no mention of Muslim girls. Yet we do know that British Asian girls of the Sikh 

religion were also abused by these same gangs.

 

 

A 2013 report by the UK Muslim Women's Network found that British Asian girls were also being abused across the country in situations that mirrored the abuse in Rotherham.^[69

[Slip]

25 minutes ago, nontabury said:

 

You seem to be insinuating that in regards to abuse by Pakistani Muslims in Rotherham, that Muslim girls were also abused, this is incorrect.

 Regarding all the other towns and cities that have suffered at the hands of these Muslim gangs, I do not know 100%. However I do notice that this section from your post includes a report by the U.K. Muslim women’s network, that mentioned that British Asian girls has been involved, no mention of Muslim girls. Yet we do know that British Asian girls of the Sikh 

religion were also abused by these same gangs.

 

 

A 2013 report by the UK Muslim Women's Network found that British Asian girls were also being abused across the country in situations that mirrored the abuse in Rotherham.^[69

Quote

 

You seem to be insinuating that in regards to abuse by Pakistani Muslims in Rotherham, that Muslim girls were also abused, this is incorrect.

 

Would you be kind enough to provide a link to show this?  It seems to be an important issue for both sides.

 

EDIT: I see now that no-one could really provide the evidence I asked you for, or the converse, unless there is a better breakdown available of what "asian" represents in this case.

I thought this from the link was telling though:

 

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A week after the Jay Report was published, three Asian girls contacted the local charity Islam Rotherham and said that they had also experienced men waiting outside schools and demanding sexual favours and carrying out abuse - including rape - in return for gifts they gave to girls.

 

Edited July 14, 2019 by Slip

[BritManToo]

On 7/11/2019 at 7:56 PM, Puchaiyank said:

If you are attempting to bring about reform, it's probably best if you try to stay out of prison...

History disagrees with you, it could give him time to write a book, how about a title "My Fight".

Edited July 14, 2019 by BritManToo

[Kadilo]

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

History disagrees with you, it could give him time to write a book, how about a title "My Fight".

Now about “Robinsome made easy” 

[Puchaiyank]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

History disagrees with you, it could give him time to write a book, how about a title "My Fight".

"My fight to get out of prison"...sounds more like it...history does not spend much time fretting over those who expire in prison trying to bring about social changes...

[petemoss]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

History disagrees with you, it could give him time to write a book, how about a title "My Fight".

Excellent! The original, in German, was also written by a racist little nomark when he was in prison.

[Slip]

6 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

"My fight to get out of prison"...sounds more like it...history does not spend much time fretting over those who expire in prison trying to bring about social changes...

 

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history does not spend much time fretting over those who expire in prison trying to bring about social changes

You might want to check history again.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, nontabury said:

 

You seem to be insinuating that in regards to abuse by Pakistani Muslims in Rotherham, that Muslim girls were also abused, this is incorrect.

 Regarding all the other towns and cities that have suffered at the hands of these Muslim gangs, I do not know 100%. However I do notice that this section from your post includes a report by the U.K. Muslim women’s network, that mentioned that British Asian girls has been involved, no mention of Muslim girls. Yet we do know that British Asian girls of the Sikh 

religion were also abused by these same gangs.

 

 

A 2013 report by the UK Muslim Women's Network found that British Asian girls were also being abused across the country in situations that mirrored the abuse in Rotherham.^[69

Yet again you're insinuating child sexual abuse gangs were solely comprised of Muslim heritage people, as a reminder the Jay Report stated 'predominately Muslim men'. However, a later report stated...

 

The second and most recent report was an independent review into South Yorkshire police's handling of CSE in the summer of 2015 by Professor John Drew, commissioned by South Yorkshire Police and Police Commissioner. It revealed that in the period January 2014-2016, 67.5% of perpetrators of child sexual exploitation in Yorkshire were of White/European origin and 19.1% of Asian origin.

 

Unfortunately you do seem to be intent on minimising the sexual abuse of Muslim heritage girls in the UK. There are many reports of such criminality occurring. As an example from a link I previously provided...

 

the narrative of "Pakistani men preying on young white girls" was incomplete as they were also preying on girls of their own community who under-report the abuse to police and authorities because they fear not being believed, or because they are threatened with bringing shame and dishonour on their families.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal#British_Asian

[7by7]

6 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

6 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 Then explain why the age of consent in most Muslim countries is at least the same as the UK, 16, and in many higher.

 

Explain why sex outside of marriage is illegal in many Muslim countries.

 

Explain why rape is illegal in all Muslim countries.

 

Explain why the Koran says that Muslims must obey the laws of the land in which they live.

 

Explain why Muslim religious leaders, spokespeople, ordinary Muslims in the UK have condemned these men and their crimes.

 

 

Explain why the Quran says let there be no compulsion in religion when Islam persecutes and even outlaws other faiths

 

Explain why Islam claims to be peaceful yet the Quran has 105 verses advocating violence

 

Explain why Islam claims equality for women yet a man can have 4 wives while a woman only one and her word is worth half that of a man and wife beating is allowed in the Quran

 

Explain why if it is untrue Islam instructs Muslims not to befriend unbelievers, why they find it so hard to integrate when other faiths, like HIndu and Sikhs have no problem doing so

 I see that you have resorted to the ploy of answering a question with a different question.

 

Not surprised, because, of course, you cannot provide the explanations I asked for.

 

In answer to your enquiry, I can do no better than repeat Sujo's response

5 hours ago, Sujo said:

Islam does not outlaw other faiths. 

 

A bit like the bible then.

 

A man can have 4 wives but only if the first wife agrees and only if he can prove he can financially care for all. Also the wives must also agree to marry him. He cant just chose a woman. Wife beating or any beating is illegal.

 

Islam does not instruct. I have no problem with muslims who I socialise with who havent beheaded me for being a non believer, but instead welcome me.

 

6 hours ago, transam said:

He cannot explain because all his religious friends are thoroughly splendid fellows....

I live in an English town with a significant Muslim population of Pakistani heritage. I have Muslim work colleagues, neighbours and friends. I talk to them about many things, including current affairs. Their disgust at and condemnation of all child sexual abusers, regardless of race, ethnicity or religion, equals my own.

 

Unlike Yaxley-Lennon who not only ignores child sexual abuse by his white EDL mates, he even started a campaign to defend one of them: Richard Price.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2019 by 7by7
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[7by7]

5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Christianity is not tolerated in Saudi Arabia, and possession of a bible is a criminal offence.

Yet again, someone of your beliefs wants the hard won freedoms we enjoy in the UK to be thrown away because one other country does not allow the same freedom of religion as we do.

 

5 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Tommy Robinson is not bigoted at all, he is anti a retrograde ideology and has Muslim and Sikh friends and supporters, how many have you got?

Yaxley-Lennon is bigoted because he only cares about the issue of child sexual abuse when the abusers are Muslims.

 

I repeat, he not only ignored several cases of child sexual abuse and grooming by his EDL mates, he even started a campaign to defend his mate Richard Price.

 

I don't know how many Muslim or Sikh friends he has; the excuse "I'm not a bigot/racist/xenophobe/whatever because I have black/brown/Muslim/whatever friends" is as old as the falsity that only white people can be bigoted/racist/xenophobic/whatever.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 14, 2019 by 7by7
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[bomber]

I wonder If Tommy gets involved in the trial of the the six UK squadies who raped the 17 year old female soldier.

[beautifulthailand99]

Dig deep for Tommy - he hasn't sold his 900k house yet so his wife and kiddies need to eat. He's larfing all the way to the bank......his short stay at Her Majesties Pleasure should make him even more dosh. But Tommy old boy don't blow it all on coke when you get out save a bit for a rainy day.....

 

 

 

[beautifulthailand99]

4 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Yet again, someone of your beliefs wants the hard won freedoms we enjoy in the UK to be thrown away because one other country does not allow the same freedom of religion as we do.

 

Yaxley-Lennon is bigoted because he only cares about the issue of child sexual abuse when the abusers are Muslims.

 

I repeat, he not only ignored several cases of child sexual abuse and grooming by his EDL mates, he even started a campaign to defend his mate Richard Price.

 

I don't know how many Muslim or Sikh friends he has; the excuse "I'm not a bigot/racist/xenophobe/whatever because I have black/brown/Muslim/whatever friends" is as old as the falsity that only white people can be bigoted/racist/xenophobic/whatever.

 

 

 

 

Yeah when it's their own paedos they try and keep it quiet. 

 

https://politicsandinsights.org/2018/05/29/the-edl-have-paedophiles-in-their-ranks-but-tommy-robinson-evidently-doesnt-condemn-them/

[TopDeadSenter]

3 hours ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Dig deep for Tommy - he hasn't sold his 900k house yet so his wife and kiddies need to eat. He's larfing all the way to the bank......his short stay at Her Majesties Pleasure should make him even more dosh. But Tommy old boy don't blow it all on coke when you get out save a bit for a rainy day.....

 Thanks for the video. I am a regular donor to TR. Words can not express my gratitude to the man for standing up for the forgotten generation of children. Children the establishment and progressives deemed should be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness in the name of diversity. He is welcome to spend donations however he wants.

 As this thread proves there are many that deem Tommy's alleged coke abuse and mortgage irregularities while helping his mate buy a house as a worse crime than the racially based gang rapes of up to one million white and sheik children. But I disagree. Strongly. Raping kids in an industrial scale is worse than a minor financial fluff.

 Thanks again Tommy. Your haters only serve to get your message out to a wider audience. Anybody with any hint of a moral code that looks into how these rape gangs activities were covered up - and the smears that continue against him to keep trying to stop the gangs being exposed -will be similarly outraged. 

 

[simple1]

16 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 Thanks for the video. I am a regular donor to TR. Words can not express my gratitude to the man for standing up for the forgotten generation of children. Children the establishment and progressives deemed should be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness in the name of diversity. He is welcome to spend donations however he wants.

 As this thread proves there are many that deem Tommy's alleged coke abuse and mortgage irregularities while helping his mate buy a house as a worse crime than the racially based gang rapes of up to one million white and sheik children. But I disagree. Strongly. Raping kids in an industrial scale is worse than a minor financial fluff.

 Thanks again Tommy. Your haters only serve to get your message out to a wider audience. Anybody with any hint of a moral code that looks into how these rape gangs activities were covered up - and the smears that continue against him to keep trying to stop the gangs being exposed -will be similarly outraged. 

So far as I know TR has never exposed any CSE abuse as a first mover. Accordingly please help me out. Given the extensive coverage in MSM, (MSM were instrumental in uncovering the situation in Rotherham) and various HMG reports into CSE in England and Wales exactly what has TR added to the debate other than ethno-religious hatred feeding the Far Right narrative? Has TR positively contributed to changes to legislation or any other meaningful activities as a change agent in UK society?

 

TR's use of cocaine is not 'alleged', he boasts about using illegal drugs...

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/tommy-robinson-video-drugs-cocaine-islam-far-right-israel-palestine-edl-a8776991.html

 

You have used the term "gang rapes of up to one million white and sheik children" on a few occasions, please clarify from a credible source.

[danangcarrental]

Nice

[TopDeadSenter]

18 minutes ago, simple1 said:

You have used the term "gang rapes of up to one million white and sheik children" on a few occasions, please clarify from a credible source.

May I presume ex MP Sarah Champion (Rotherham MP and labour member)is what you would deem a "credible source"?

 

Here is what she said - it's a direct quote

"“There are hundreds of thousands and I think there could be up to a million victims of exploitation nationwide, including right now. Girls in the process of being groomed,” she said."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029

 

BTW you might like to research what the establishment did to poor Ms Champion after her brave efforts to help these children.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2019 by TopDeadSenter

[simple1]

18 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

May I presume ex MP Sarah Champion (Rotherham MP and labour member)is what you would deem a "credible source"?

 

Here is what she said - it's a direct quote

"“There are hundreds of thousands and I think there could be up to a million victims of exploitation nationwide, including right now. Girls in the process of being groomed,” she said."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029

 

BTW you might like to research what the establishment did to poor Ms Champion after her brave efforts to help these children.

 

 

In other words no supporting facts. Whilst she did do some good work concerning CSE, I do note Champion resigned after lying in response to criticism of her claims in an opinion piece in the Sun.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Champion

 

No response regards TR?

[Chomper Higgot]

4 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 Thanks for the video. I am a regular donor to TR. Words can not express my gratitude to the man for standing up for the forgotten generation of children. Children the establishment and progressives deemed should be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness in the name of diversity. He is welcome to spend donations however he wants.

 As this thread proves there are many that deem Tommy's alleged coke abuse and mortgage irregularities while helping his mate buy a house as a worse crime than the racially based gang rapes of up to one million white and sheik children. But I disagree. Strongly. Raping kids in an industrial scale is worse than a minor financial fluff.

 Thanks again Tommy. Your haters only serve to get your message out to a wider audience. Anybody with any hint of a moral code that looks into how these rape gangs activities were covered up - and the smears that continue against him to keep trying to stop the gangs being exposed -will be similarly outraged. 

 

I don’t know anyone who condemns Yaxley-Lennon who does not condemn the vile pedophiles others (not Yaxley-Lennon) helped put behind bars.

 

Yaxley-Lennon hasn’t done anything to bring a single child rapist to justice - absolutely nothing.

 

However, he has in the past defended a pedophile (Richard Price) and he ignored the many pedophiles in his EDL.

 

Yaxley-Lennon is laughing all the way to the bank, spreading hate and making money out of the suffering of other.

 

It does not surprise me in the least that you make regular donations to Yaxley-Lennon.

 

But you should ask yourself, why so many of the extreme right wing EDL, ranting against pedophiles turned out to be pedophiles themselves.

 

You choose to donate to a man who defended a pedophile and who

ignored pedophiles in the organization he established.

 

Why were so many of these vile perverts drawn to Yaxley-Lennon and his organization?

 

It wasn’t random chance that he collects these vile perverts around him.