Pilots arrested at Glasgow Airport before boarding US flight

 

The pilots were arrested before boarding a scheduled flight to New York

 

Two United Airlines pilots have been arrested at Glasgow Airport for allegedly failing a breath test before boarding a flight to New York.

 

The men, aged 45 and 61, have not been charged but remain in custody and are expected to appear before Paisley Sheriff Court on Tuesday.

 

Police Scotland confirmed officers were called to the airport at 07:35 BST.

 

The men were arrested before boarding flight UA162.

 

Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-49222120

 

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<deleted> That's so scary!!!

Now we are all going to be wondering who is flying our plane?

How much of a irresponsible <deleted> one has to be not to know that if you're about to pilot a plane loaded with hundreds of passengers who had put their lives in your hands, you don't drink, not even a drop, period!...

You are only regarded as drunk in Glasgow if you start throwing up carrots that you've never eaten.

11 minutes ago, ezzra said:

How much of a irresponsible <deleted> one has to be not to know that if you're about to pilot a plane loaded with hundreds of passengers who had put their lives in your hands, you don't drink, not even a drop, period!...

Happens every day. I used to live in a Village not all that far from Gatwick where all the Aircrews would come to drink before flights because it was out of the way and they would not be seen in my local Pub away from the general public gaze.   Several Aircraft Engineers lived in the Village too but would never fly as they would say 'if you knew what we knew you would never fly either, especially on Boeing products ' !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fly the friendly... slightly fuzzy skies with United.

Better to enjoy your trip with this airline ????

 

It would appear that United may have serious problems with their pilots drinking habits.  Apart from this time in 2017 two other United pilots where caught and sentenced to prison terms. Perhaps Glasgow airport are more conscientious in breath testing pilots but surely it can be no coincidence that the second time in two years 2 united pilots have been caught. Is this systematic of a lax checking system at other airports, or an issue specifically related to the American airline, United, or perhaps just a lack system by American airlines in general ? Who knows but sure as hell many potential customers may become very wary of flying with pilots who are intoxicated by the blood/alcohol standards set for airline pilots.

All a mistake...

 

They inhaled the exhaled air of the Glaswegian taxi driver, 

Obviously thought a Single Malt was similar to blended Scotch or Bourbon.....

With legalisation of cannabis in certain countries I see pilots soon being routinely drug tested as well.  

1 minute ago, Basil B said:

With legalisation of cannabis in certain countries I see pilots soon being routinely drug tested as well.  

Arn't they now ?

1 hour ago, ThaiPauly said:

<deleted> That's so scary!!!

Now we are all going to be wondering who is flying our plane?

I’ve ALWAYS wondered (for a minute or two) who is piloting the plane when I fly.  

    At least on ultra-long haul flights (over 12 hours long) the plane has I think at least three pilots, and often four pilots. 

1 hour ago, ezzra said:

How much of a irresponsible <deleted> one has to be not to know that if you're about to pilot a plane loaded with hundreds of passengers who had put their lives in your hands, you don't drink, not even a drop, period!...

Only in a perfect world do pilots not drink, anaesthetists do not use opiods, wannabe soldiers do not take over a country and stay in power.

 

But this world is far away from perfect.

 

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2 minutes ago, Catoni said:

I’ve ALWAYS wondered (for a minute or two) who is piloting the plane when I fly.  

That will be the computer systems.

On long hall flights there will be one or two IROs (international relief Pilots) and United As well as other American flag carrier airlines have random drug test. You may only be tested once a year or 3 times in one month as the test is randomly done by computer; supposedly. 

 

I was at LAX several years ago after North West Pilots got busted for flying two legs drunk (over some legal limit).. LAX ramp control called N.W. 12345 several times for engine start/push back but got no answer... Then a voice came over the radio that said, " Ramp I do not think they can hear you as it looks like they have their blender going"!

 

I guess you had to be there to understand how funny that was..

Ryan Air uses Guinness not Avgas.


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To be fair if the pilots were being forced to fly a 737 MAX its not unreasonable to let them have a few shots before takeoff ????

22 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

Arn't they now ?

Not sure... possibly in house by the airlines. 

The UK's CAA seems to be offloading the problem to operators to police.

https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/AOCDrugsandAlcoholPolicies(JUN2018).pdf

I know that like in this case the airport police can test pilots if the have suspicions, but what about drugs? 

11 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Not sure... possibly in house by the airlines. 

The UK's CAA seems to be offloading the problem to operators to police.

https://publicapps.caa.co.uk/docs/33/AOCDrugsandAlcoholPolicies(JUN2018).pdf

I know that like in this case the airport police can test pilots if the have suspicions, but what about drugs? 

Maybe the expression "As high as kite " should be re-written to "As high as a plane" ????????

2 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

Maybe the expression "As high as kite " should be re-written to "As high as a plane" ????????

Just "Flying High"

They are drunk everywhere: This  a few days ago in Minniapolis USA

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drunk-delta-pilot-gabriel-schroeder-arrested-failing-sobriety-test-msp-airport-2019-07-31/

 

And England: https://fortune.com/2019/02/08/american-airlines-pilot-drunk/

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-46231780

1 minute ago, Basil B said:

Just "Flying High"

not to be confused with the "mile high club" or perhaps contributory ? ????

1 hour ago, thaiguzzi said:

Obviously thought a Single Malt was similar to blended Scotch or Bourbon.....

People from Malta usually tour in groups.

1 hour ago, alan grice said:

Ryan Air uses Guinness not Avgas.


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Tut tut! Ryan Air operate turbojet powered aircraft fuelled with Aviation Turbine fuel AVTUR. The product known as AVGAS is Aviation Gasoline commonly used in piston powered aircraft. No matter, the VIP fleet uses Black Velvet.????

2 hours ago, geoffbezoz said:

It would appear that United may have serious problems with their pilots drinking habits.  Apart from this time in 2017 two other United pilots where caught and sentenced to prison terms. Perhaps Glasgow airport are more conscientious in breath testing pilots but surely it can be no coincidence that the second time in two years 2 united pilots have been caught. Is this systematic of a lax checking system at other airports, or an issue specifically related to the American airline, United, or perhaps just a lack system by American airlines in general ? Who knows but sure as hell many potential customers may become very wary of flying with pilots who are intoxicated by the blood/alcohol standards set for airline pilots.

So are breath or other blood alcohol tests conducted at every airport in the world?

5 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So are breath or other blood alcohol tests conducted at every airport in the world?

Rubbish

 

https://blog.cansfordlabs.co.uk/drug-testing-for-pilots-the-rules-around-the-world

The flying public has no idea how much stress flight crews are under. time zone changes, crappy marriages, loneliness, and then maybe they fly somewhere and are so dam tired that they have a few too many the night before they fly. Then.....

I can guarantee you that I would rather have these two? guys in the cockpit than the loser's who cannot even pass a flight check from a hundred other countries piloting my aircraft. From someone who knows.

2 hours ago, elcaro said:

2 hours ago, Catoni said:

I’ve ALWAYS wondered (for a minute or two) who is piloting the plane when I fly.  

That will be the computer systems.

Very boring job, big issue with pilots falling asleep, really scary when both do as has happened many times, on one occasion a member of cabin crew had to wake them up after over flying the destination.  

 

Just waiting for the next flight control addition, a "Seat Shaker"... 

Drunk at 7.35am is perfectly normal in Glasgow jimmy????