LawrenceN Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Skallywag said: He broke the law, doesn't matter how he is transported to jail IMO. When you are put in a police car with hands handcuffed behind your back it is also demeaning. So what is the politically correct solution to all this? Treat criminals like upstanding citizens and have a Lincoln town car transport them to jail?! There's more to this story than reported here. "Criminal trespass" is often used these days to remove protesters exercising their first amendment rights, even from public property. If I were a bettin' man, that's where my money would be.
usviphotography Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, LawrenceN said: There's more to this story than reported here. "Criminal trespass" is often used these days to remove protesters exercising their first amendment rights, even from public property. If I were a bettin' man, that's where my money would be. Please go to page 1 and look the picture of the guy they arrested. I have a feeling you will be re-thinking your assessment. Or at least I hope you would be, for your money's sake. 2
geoffbezoz Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, wendyfromoz said: what were they surpose to do strap him across the horse. Well its good to know Texans don't pull black men behind their pick-ups anymore. But also surprising that they treat coloured people like that in 2019 and then express outrage and surprise why they are disliked so much. 1
Popular Post Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, moskito said: And what has this post to do with ANYTHING in or around THAILAND? And WHY is it in THAIVISA Forum??? May be tomorrow we starting posting, German, Swedish, Finnish or Russian and NZ regional news here too? sorry but in my opinion it does NOT belong in this Forum here World News Forum, dear. 3
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 While I have to agree that this incident isn't literally police brutality, I reckon they failed to train these cops in considering HOW THINGS LOOK especially in this age of everyone having phones. They shouldn't have done it. They acknowledge now they shouldn't have done it. I don't understand anyone seriously arguing that they should have done it. 2
Longcut Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Lucius verus said: Would they do the same to a white man given the same circumstances? If yes, then the above photo is not racist but the bleeding hearts will go beserk anyway except FoxTrump TV. A white man would be treated the same way. “While this technique of using mounted horses to transport a person during an arrest is considered a best practice in certain scenarios, such as during crowd control, the practice was not used correctly in this instance,” the statement said. In other words, we wouldn't have shown a black man if we knew the cameras were there. 1 1
Longcut Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, moskito said: And what has this post to do with ANYTHING in or around THAILAND? And WHY is it in THAIVISA Forum??? May be tomorrow we starting posting, German, Swedish, Finnish or Russian and NZ regional news here too? sorry but in my opinion it does NOT belong in this Forum here It is trolling!
LawrenceN Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, usviphotography said: Please go to page 1 and look the picture of the guy they arrested. I have a feeling you will be re-thinking your assessment. Or at least I hope you would be, for your money's sake. OK, I looked at the picture (again). What am I supposed to see that would change what I said? 2
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Consider this song top in the charts now! A gay black man doing a rap version of a country song. This is today's USA so yes there is still hope. Not that bizarre throwback of white cops treating a black man as if he's a dog. Clear enough?!?
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Longcut said: Yes, that is how they move you when they are on horseback. A white man would be treated the same way. Yeah sure they would have. Uh huh.
Popular Post Pedrogaz Posted August 7, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 7, 2019 What a sad country the US has become. Its moral compass has broken and the country is on the wrong track. Hypocritical lectures from the like of Pompeo and Bolton. And imagine how stupid and dumb your electors are if they elected the vulgar ignorant racist boor who inhabits the WH. Look at the foreign policy dictated by the hectoring warmongers who want to start wars all over the world to appease Netanyahu and the "defence" industry lobbyists who dole out cash candy to candidates in the form of unlimited donations. Because defence corporations are "people entitled" to free speech according to the Supreme Court.....they are not "people" however when it comes to paying taxes on foreign income, where corporations are exempt, but real people are not. 2 1
daoyai Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 24 minutes ago, LawrenceN said: There's more to this story than reported here. "Criminal trespass" is often used these days to remove protesters exercising their first amendment rights, even from public property. If I were a bettin' man, that's where my money would be. In this case he is a homeless guy with bi-polar disorder that had been ordered off of someones private property on numerous occasions... he was finally arrested after warnings were ignored. Hopefully he will get treated with proper meds and found a residence. 1
RJRS1301 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Skallywag said: He broke the law, doesn't matter how he is transported to jail IMO. When you are put in a police car with hands handcuffed behind your back it is also demeaning. So what is the politically correct solution to all this? Treat criminals like upstanding citizens and have a Lincoln town car transport them to jail?! Has not been found guilty yet Presumption of innocence until guilty verdict
Popular Post usviphotography Posted August 7, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, daoyai said: In this case he is a homeless guy with bi-polar disorder that had been ordered off of someones private property on numerous occasions... he was finally arrested after warnings were ignored. Hopefully he will get treated with proper meds and found a residence. And will we get apologies from the media or the resident race baiters? Nope, they will just quietly move on to the next fake "racial" incident they can use to sow gin up hatred and division. Rinse and repeat. There is a reason Trump refers to the Mainstream Media as the Enemy of the American People. They have more than earned that title. 3 2 4
animalmagic Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, daoyai said: In this case he is a homeless guy with bi-polar disorder that had been ordered off of someones private property on numerous occasions... he was finally arrested after warnings were ignored. Hopefully he will get treated with proper meds and found a residence. If he's a man with bi-polar disorder then I think that it would have been better to wait for a vehicle to transport him in a secure manner. After all, if he's bi-polar then he is subject to severe mood swings and may be need to be immobilized to prevent harm to himself, others and the horses.
ThePioneer Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, Pedrogaz said: What a sad country the US has become. Its moral compass has broken and the country is on the wrong track. Do you really think that the police officers on those horses have changed their attitudes against black people because of who is in government? This is how the US has always been
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, usviphotography said: And will we get apologies from the media or the resident race baiters? Nope, they will just quietly move on to the next fake "racial" incident they can use to sow gin up hatred and division. Rinse and repeat. There is a reason Trump refers to the Mainstream Media as the Enemy of the American People. They have more than earned that title. While I find the overall tone of your post inflammatory, I think I sort of agree with you on one part of it which is implied. This specific incident was not really a big deal. Police mistreatment of black people in the USA in general IS a big deal, but I don't see any benefit for people to focus attention on this particular incident. It's basically a problem caused by bad OPTICS. As far as we know they didn't beat him up and we know they didn't shoot him. Better to focus on actual really serious problems. I wouldn't exactly call this case "fake" as you do because there is a picture and it looks bad, but I think focusing on a case like this may lead some people to trivialize the larger problem which is anything but fake.
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, ThePioneer said: Do you really think that the police officers on those horses have changed their attitudes against black people because of who is in government? This is how the US has always been That's a larger question. I don't know if those cops are racist or not. But the gist of your point is correctly saying racism has always been with us. But the problem with the current top U.S. leader is that many people that have always been racist now feel EMBOLDENED to be more out about that. I think there are ample statistics on increases in hate crimes against minorities to prove that connection. 2
moskito Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, Jingthing said: World News Forum, dear. ok Jingthing, sorry. I must have missed then the story where this Ethyopian guy kicked a mother and her 8 y.o. boy into an incoming train on Frankfurt Main Railway station, Mother alive, boy aged 8 died, There are too many news nowadays making bad feelings ???? 1 1
alan grice Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Give the Dems more nonsence to expand on .[emoji572]️Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect
Throatwobbler Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, LawrenceN said: OK, I looked at the picture (again). What am I supposed to see that would change what I said? I think you are meant to see that he is black and so, in the original posters mind guilty of the worst crimes.
Thaifriends Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Its a disgrace but why he was arrested? Main point
Popular Post Throatwobbler Posted August 7, 2019 Popular Post Posted August 7, 2019 19 minutes ago, usviphotography said: And will we get apologies from the media or the resident race baiters? Nope, they will just quietly move on to the next fake "racial" incident they can use to sow gin up hatred and division. Rinse and repeat. There is a reason Trump refers to the Mainstream Media as the Enemy of the American People. They have more than earned that title. What world do you live in? You have a very lose grip on reality? 3
lust Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 Would this be a story if the man arrested was white? How about a black cop on the horse arresting a black man? Or how about a black cop with white guy handcuffed? Is that news? White people being told it’s racist to be white. 1 1
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, Thaifriends said: Its a disgrace but why he was arrested? Main point I think trespassing. The controversy here isn't whether that was a reasonable call or not to arrest him by the cops. So I'm assuming it was probably reasonable. Getting arrested isn't the same thing as being formally charged and convicted. The controversy is that the picture looks really bad and yes a throwback to lynching days. The police department there gets it now that it wasn't good to telegraph that image. So I'm not sure what people are arguing about now. Are they saying don't have any sensitivity for how things look especially in the very racially charged political environment of today? Well, if so, I don't agree.
RJRS1301 Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: I think trespassing. The controversy here isn't whether that was a reasonable call or not to arrest him or not by the cops. The controversy is that the picture looks really bad and yes a throwback to lynching days. The police department there gets it now that it wasn't good to telegraph that image. So I'm not sure what people are arguing about now. Are they saying don't have any sensitivity for how things look especially in the very racially charged political environment of today? Well, if so, I don't agree. I think many are desensitized to "how it looks" because the man is a person of colour, I bet if it was a white male, they would be up in arms.
Jingthing Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 1 minute ago, RJRS1301 said: I think many are desensitized to "how it looks" because the man is a person of colour, I bet if it was a white male, they would be up in arms. Not exactly. If it was white cops and a white man on a leash, people might be talking about how it's not OK to treat a man like a dog. But it wouldn't harken back to lynching days. If it was black cops treating a white man like a dog, well, frankly, I doubt many black cops would be that stupid.
manhood Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 USA with Trump as President are on the track back for slavery. All those millions of narrowminded people supporting this president are as dangerous as this idiot Trump! 1
daoyai Posted August 7, 2019 Posted August 7, 2019 37 minutes ago, animalmagic said: If he's a man with bi-polar disorder then I think that it would have been better to wait for a vehicle to transport him in a secure manner. After all, if he's bi-polar then he is subject to severe mood swings and may be need to be immobilized to prevent harm to himself, others and the horses. The are police not psychiatrists ... amazing reply
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